Paganism, Christianity, and other religions

said every degenerate ever.

Moral slavery is a joke, you are able by yourself to tell what's right and wrong, so no need for some skydaddy figure to tell you what's what.

Moral laws in religion are for brainlets and people who don't know any better, this isn't spirituality, it is simple mass control to care after those people who are unable to function as rational and able human beings, people unable to eat without dropping food all over their table partners.

Go into nature, any place without humans, could be mountains, a forest, a desert or any such place. Take as little equipment as your courage will allow, shed your modernity for as long as you are in this place and nature will form you according to the truth of it and you. That is all the religion you need faggot.

said every degenerate before fucking a child

Not an argument

You can't know for sure. You have to decide what you put your faith in. Compare theologies and decide which one makes sense. Only one makes sense to me. Every other I've looked into is riddled with contradictions and obvious immortality. All men know the truth. They deny it for their own unrighteous reasons.

no. it's a statement of fact.

No, it's a strawman

Please refer to this post kek

You don't know what a straman is.
That's a statement of fact too.

And as I said, that's not an argument, it's a strawman, just because you need a threat of incredible torture to behave doesn't mean the rest of the universe is like you, subhuman

A strawman is when an inbred portuguese man decides to create a version of his opponent that he doesn't like and is easy to defeat and attacks it instead of attacking the argument.

Doing whatever you feel is right for you is so obviously corrupt it isn't even funny. It's pure hedonism

Well we're here to compare theologies. What's the one theological argument which makes sense to you?

It's about freedom, some have it and some preach it while being slaves to the demiurge.

Christianity

lol'd
i see that "not an argument" is like a theme here.

The truth will set you free not convenient lies

Huh

You don't know the truth, fag

Says you

And it's easy to prove: doesn't your religion promise amazing miracles in the name of jeebus? Go do some.

Any argument for a religion based on things like heritage, nationality, or anything else that isn't focused on what is and is not true, is indicative that the person you're talking to is not actually religious, and is simply using the concept like a political bumper sticker.

Lol

>What's the one theological argument which makes sense to you?
>Christianity
Christianity is not an argument, how stupid do you have to be to not get what i ment?

His argument is: "this is my LARP, I don't keep the religion but it makes for nice roleplaying online".

That's not what I mean. What specific theological argument satisfies you?

That goes for almost everyone and if i was carefull about talking to trolls i would never talk to anyone, i just honestly dont care if he is trolling.

While I think this is largely true, I'd like to suggest a post I made recently that explains my stance on ancestral religion.

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So you don't know what a strawman is, as I said.

I never created a verion of my opponent, dumb dipshit, I said every degenerate that fucked a child said what you said, and used what you said to justify his own actions.

Here, have a drawing.

I'm not arguing with you, I'm stating facts.

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Pretty stupid I guess because that's all gibberish to me. How is saying Christianity is a perfect moral code not a theological argument? I'm not sure that you know what theology means lol

You seem upset. Why don't you take a nap and come back when you're nice and rested?

Religion at its core serves one purpose: to show your appreciation for the world and life to take nothing for granted.

With this in mind, I'd call Christianity a lazy religion. Pagans would divide the elements of the Earth into many gods and worship them equally as each element deserves equal but individual reverence. The Jews consolidated that appreciation into only one God where they appreciate the world in one simple religion.

Without a pantheon, it isn't possible to love life and the universe to their fullest as there are too elements which make up the mystery that is life to consolidate into one God.

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Christianity is the only perfect moral code

That's not a theological argument

Look up theological and argument in the dictionary

He's asking you for specific rationale, not blanket statements. WHY is Christianity the only perfect moral code.

Saying "Christianity is a perfect moral code" is an argument, but "Christianity" is not.
So if its perfect then why dont you follow the bible literally? Do you believe owning slaves is moral? And how did you come to the conclusion that Christianity is a perfect moral code?

can some christians plz explain to me why christianity is not a jewish religion? is it not the same god as jews woreship? is it not so that jews created this religion and claimed to be the only choosen ppl and jesus was a jewish rebel that claimed to be gods son? so if i am right until now, the jews were right about god, he really exists, but god actually wants to be loved by everyone, not just the kikes that knew about him first and so he sends his son? now does that mean that jews are in fact right about their entitlement? they have been gods choosen ppl until god decided to send his son and kinda open the club for everyone? would any christian take his time to explain this to me? also, its well known that we had good religions in europe long before christians and jews came along. paganism seems to be very strong against kikery and degeneracy, it wants you to be strong and to never cuck and bow to foreign hordes while jesus loves everyone, even the niggers and sandniggers. i srsly dont understand how any Jow Forumsack can be a christian, its just beyond me.

The world operates on natural laws rather than through the intervention of deities. Traditions and narratives provide valuable guidance and role models for society, but problems arise from taking religion literally. It may be better to focus on science and build a coherent life philosophy without any metaphysics or spirituality. Science says the origin and purpose of life is reproduction; the goal is to keep that cycle going as long as possible. Maybe we can create our own heavens and our own gods with technology. But this outlook is ultimately quite bleak, because even in the best case scenarios, everything in the universe eventually ends, as far as science knows. Maybe it is better to live a lie, believing incorrect things, especially if nothing really matters. Or to stop asking the questions and accept that we don't and can't know everything.

They'll come back with "Muh israelites were perfect white aryans". A statement with no basis in fact and no support in either academia or archeological evidence.

These are the posts I'm trying to avoid.

I think people emulate success and the Jews are incredibly successful but don't let outsiders into their secret club.

So goys created a religion that was *almost* like their Jew overlords but left out most of what actually made their religion great.

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Theres some fucking impressive mental gymnastics to "proove" it from these absolutely delusional christians.

???

A religion having a correct set of rules for moral or ethical behavior doesn't inherently make the religion itself correct. No faeries in the garden, and so on, all the mystical mumbo-jumbo can be tossed without having to necessarily ignore the genuinely good ideas.

There is no nature left

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Because it is the only religion that if followed will produce good. All men know the difference between good and evil, they just deny it.

I believe in Christ but I'm not very well versed in theological matters, but I'll throw my two cents in.

Yes, we worship the same good the ancient Jewish people did. However, when Christ came, many Jews rejected him. In my opinion, Judaism isn't a religion to be respected like many neo-cons do, as any self-proclaimed Jew today rejected Jesus' love.

There are of course arguments out there about "muh thirteen tribes, the jews of today are not the jews of yesterday!" but it's hard to tell if it's true or not. The point is Jesus came to save anybody who would accept him, Jews and gentiles alike. And today there should be no more people following the Jewish religion.

In fact if anything the Ancient Jews are to be pitied, as even though they were God's chosen people before Jesus, they constantly got fucked over (many times by God Himself) and could not enter heaven if I'm understanding correctly.

Don't be a biblet. Do you think enslaving your neighbor is loving him like yourself? I would encourage you to actually read the Bible instead of googling "why Bible bad?" to cherry pick. The existence of God is an inherent truth that all men know. They only deny it because of their own unrighteous deeds.

But what is the specific, unique theology which alone produces good?
It's not totally your fault since he brought up a specific religion, but you've demonstrated how we can make assumptions of people's theology when they name their religion.

The only successful thing about Jews is their flagrant use of Usary. There's a reason it was widely banned throughout the world for a long fucking time, but they got in on that shit early, and kept it "within the family"

something something compound interest is the most powerful force in the world

how can you do anything, eat, post on 4chinz, think about life etc etc when nothing matters? we die, the universe may die, but still you wake up, you eat, you think etc etc and dont tell me it doesnt give you any pleasur, bc you wouldnt do it in that case. maybe its not a lot, but the fact that you decide to do something and dont just lay down and die although everything will die and disapear at one point seems like you have something like a damn strong religion that you believe in, and it works without you even beeing aware of it. thats fucking magic, i dont really need more proof for godly things to exist. dont you ever get this strange intense feeling when you think about death and still keep going. like a mad drive that doesnt need any justification. thats god to me.

KJV only Independent Fundementalist Baptism, it would appear.

The Bible

oh right, i had totally forgotten the OP

>Do you think enslaving your neighbor is loving him like yourself?
if its not then why is it allowed and even encouraged in the bible?
I would encourage you to actually question the bibles validity instead of come up with excuses, you know following the evidence instead of leading it.
>The existence of God is an inherent truth that all men know. They only deny it because of their own unrighteous deeds.
The nonexistence of god is an inherent truth that all men know. They only deny it because of their own fear, ego and ignorance, after all hell is scary, it would be embarassing to be wrong about something this big and it would take a lot of honesty and work to set aside your emotions.

It would be hard to find a well-practiced theology that don't have the same or similar moral code.

1. don't kill people (at least for no reason)
2. don't steal
3. try to help people when they are suffering.

Those seem to be common cornerstones in morality no matter where in the world you go.

That's literally just some bullshit he made up. Christianity did as well as it did even when it was outlawed by Rome because people found it more fulfilling than their native religions. The idea that Christianity was primarily spread by the sword is a fedora meme.

exactly. when you look at the jesus figure. he was angry at the rich merchants. he didnt even knew who his father was. so he decided to claim that the jew god is his father and that he can do whatever he wants bc god tells him to do it. its so fucking insane that i just cant understand how ppl follow this shit. jesus was a nutcase that pissed of the jews, so they made the romans kill him. is it possible that christianity is the worst kike trick they ever pulled on the goyim?
>listen goyim
>the insane fegget we just killed is your lord and saviour from now on
>woreship his weakness
>woreship his poverty
>woreship his love for the sick and poor
>never question us because we believe in the same god

Like I said I'd encourage you to actually read the Bible

Both Paganism and Christianity are fundemental to Western society.

yes i noticed that, i have read the bible (not 100% of it as its boring as fuck and basically just a story book anyway).
i encourage you to appreciate intellectual honesty a tad more.

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I didn't realize how intellectual it was to talk about something you admittedly don't know about. I'll try that from now on.

no its about admitting you dont know, you got it quite backwards. Like you dont actually know if there is a god or not, but i would bet you will claim you know.
Also i havent really talked all that much about the bible, all i said was it encourages slavery, thats another hit on your honesty.

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I am developing my own metaphysical argument and applying it to various structures in society by am writing a book about it and wont tell you

>Religion at its core serves one purpose: to show your appreciation for the world and life
Not really. Religion is a relationship with the living God who created heaven and earth through our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
Love the world as much as you like , its coming to an end and so is everyone that loves it.
>Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.

>Religion is a relationship with the living God who created heaven and earth through our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
Except the religions that aren't?

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I believe something similar to this pasta German bro made. Enoch also confirms Noah being white, like a surprising new branch of humans. White people did migrate out of Sumeria after all and are a more recent and rather drastic evolutionary branch. This happened around the same time young Earth creationists claim the earth was created. In reality, the Bible is talking about the creation of the white race.

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Kind of. Sorry to be a negative nancy, but I think science can sum it up pretty well. Animals which are not motivated to survive did not reproduce. Animals which are driven by instincts passed on their instincts. Granted, some people are suicidal or unmotivated, but I think that's due to weaknesses in our biology's ability to cope with modern stresses. We are also unusual among animals for having such intelligence, and our behavior is very complex. Maybe our instincts are imperfectly able to motivate us like they do animals, because evolution has trouble weeding out all the possible mental dead ends.

I hope you're right, though. I still have morals, values, and goals, which derive from either instinct, culture, or personal choice.

I actually left this out, but I think that there may be afterlives. Maybe anything that is possible will eventually happen. All possible universes are always being randomly generated throughout infinite time and space. This includes every afterlife you can imagine. Or maybe not. But I can't explain why 1+1=2, why the big bang happened, or how we are conscious. Since we became conscious once, it might as well happen infinite times, at least on an infinite timescale. If it is infinite, then you will have infinite other lives in other universes. Maybe in some of them you will remember this life, and in some of them you won't. If that's the case, even dying is not an escape from life, it's just a restart of a new life. So you might as well see it through.

Always the same zionist propaganda. Shill Christianity as jewish, over and over and over again like an American professor.

You're correct . They aren't nor will they ever be.
If you examine my post and study every religion that crosses your mind you'll notice that christianity is the only one that prophecies doom and gloom , tribulation and distress ,trial and pain before the second coming. Aswell as the anti-christ who will reing for a while in peace so he can deceive the world and those that await him as messiah - jews , muslims , new age hippies etc etc are all teaching that its all going to be okay and there will come a messiah who will reign with peace and prosperity.
There can only be one truth though....

I am pretty sure most child fuckers were rather Christians or Muslims, who did not think that way

There's literally trial and pain in every single period of human history you look at. Making a prophecy means absolutely nothing.

I get your point, cause I thought like this too.
But doesnt it just make the mystery of the christian god even greater? I have had a revelation about what the christian god is. He is truly a magnificient god.

Honestly why the fuck does it even matter? How can you hate, like fucking literally, the most influential person in the written history, because of his heritage?
>da jews
Please man. Get a hold of yourself. If you cannot get away from that jewish point, then why dont you find the pdf about how christianity is "the white mans religion" ? Adam meaning "he who can blush" or whatever it is. Which race can blush? Why does JEsus talk about jews who call themselves jews but are not jews. Who are the lost tribes of israel?
Natural laws and meta physical laws. Look into hermetism for example. The people who read the bible as a literal matter of fact are retarded and will never experience any revelation of what divine knowledge and truth it holds. Do you know why? Because if you take it literally that god is a man, then you have lost all possibilities of understand why he is described as a man. Hint, the Christian god (Gods are concepts. Even the christian one) is a deity with a masculine trait. He is represented on earth through fathers.

To this thread:
If you want to find god, you must try to figure out why jesus said that you could only find god through him.
You must give yourself totally to this question, there cannot be any forms of doubt or ego present in you, while trying to find this answer.
To put it more correctly, you must questions everything you think you know and everything you believe.
You must start from 0 and then go to 1, then 2 and so on.
The cultural baggage, if you think about time, is always present. The corruption of time is present. The corruption of man is present. Always. How many bible versions are there? How many times has it been translated? What is the possibility of errors for this process?
You must

BAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You must seperate things into categories. Church =/= Jesus =/= the author of the bible.
You must see, that at the end of the day, there is a core to the christian belief.
The eternal life, Heaven and hell (I have heard a claim that hell was first invented and added to the bible in the 1200s or so), God and anti god (the devil) etc.
Why do christians believe that punishments are good for you, if you have done wrong?
What did jesus mean by saying you must judge a fruit by its trees?
Start asking honest question. Remove the baggage that you have. Start doing instead of trying.
I believe in you anons. I will write a book about this, I want you to be closer to God. God is truly great anons. I love god and I worship him in all my acts (almost).

I could give you metaphors of how the nature of god is and so on, but if you misunderstand them, you will be further removed from god, which I dont want.
Anons, I swear to you, God, gods and Satan are real.
Maybe you should start, by asking what gods are? What do gods have in common?
Concepts. Aspects. These are words that describe god more then deity or some other nonsense. Why is it nonsense? Because you link deities to living beings, instead of concepts.
Do you pray to god for material things, pray to god for things you need, dont decide what you need, let god do that. God bless anons, be careful, god is as scary as he is great.
Love your enemies can mean several things. I love jews, they will give me the world on a silver platter.

>just some bullshit he made up
It's just some bullshit "I" made up. I'm the original poster. It's not supposed to be an absolute truth, it's just my understanding of theology that I've codified based on my own experience. I'm not even naming Christianity specifically, the red circle is any foreign religion. People can convert to foreign religions if it provides them "some" spiritual fulfillment, but that doesn't mean they wouldn't find more fulfillment in their native religion.

Based east mexican

Also, the Falange did nothing wrong

>Religion isn't politics.
this. /thread /his/ /x/

>Making a prophecy means absolutely nothing.
It means absolutely everything. It can confirm or deny the truth of a matter . It can bring down or build up a reputation.
Are you deliberately speaking nonsene ?

>The world will end
>....eventually
Wow can I be a deity yet?

Prophecies have come true in all religions. By their very nature, they are vague enough to be applied no matter the result.