Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage and the socialist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need. >Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need." >To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said. marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/
>While British people on balance tend to have an unfavourable view of capitalism (39% view it unfavourably, 33% favourably), more people (36%) view socialism favourably than negatively (32%).
Oliver Phillips
wtf 4chin, i write basedboy
Christian Collins
moot is a s o y slurper fag
Wyatt Martinez
>but those differences don’t reveal the greatest divide and danger to America’s future. “The most alarming result, according to [George] Barna, was that four out of every ten adults say they prefer socialism to capitalism,” the ACFI noted in its commentary on the poll. “That is a large minority,” Barna said, “and it includes a majority of the liberals — who will be pushing for a completely different economic model to dominate our nation.
The Media using their institution to promote hostile actors violating US Borders shows willful and malicious negligence in their deference towards the United States making them an unlawful hostile actor in their efforts against the United States. It would be as easy as indicting a ham sandwich with any grand jury.
This shows they wont stop, that is what RICO is for, its used to stop an organized group from engaging in criminal action. Right now the News, SPLC, AIPAC and ADL are buying our leaders off, RICO is the tool given to us to stop these aggressions against our country and people. These Fake News organizations operating in unison is an organized effort breaching the most sacred of public trusts, the freedom of the press by working against the people to form false narratives undermining our Nations Sovereignty. >18 U.U Code 2381: Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death.
For Trump to Make America Great Again, he must implement RICO effective immediately to shutdown these cartels of crime and save our country.
Hello gomrades! X_DDddDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of ebin revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. X_-DDDD >Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :-DDDDd >To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all FUG. When capitalists run away we win and I gill you all. Eventually the fungtions of state stob and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. gommies.gom/fug/ gommies.gom/starve/
>Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :-DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. (BENIS :_DD)
>Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.
>Sdage 4 Nod real gommunism. Nexzt gountry. problems werent. :-DDdd
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of rebolutionary socialism and gommunism. /lefdibol/ raids /bol/ general - pasda spam and endorsedd rule violadions ebidion :DDD
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism aggording to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD >Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD >To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run
away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. gommies.gom/fug/ gommies.gom/starve/
>Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD
Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.
>Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.
>Sdage four Nod real gommunism. Move on to nexd goundry :DDDDDDD
>wah wah wah Kulaks deserved it too. Stalin did nothing wrong.
Grayson Adams
Don't cut yourself on that edge. Communism has caused more death and destruction and instability through revolution than virtually every other existing ideology or their respective forms of government. Lenin, Trotsky and their band of literal bank robbers openly pushed for a civil war in completely Sorelian fashion. Do you acknowledge and support this course of action as you do the intentional starvation of millions?
Zachary Peterson
A-are those guys just n-napping?
Blake Murphy
Why did he USSR invade Afghanistan? That is against Marxist doctrine of a revolution?
Lincoln Bailey
All worth it
> Under the census of 1897, the last general census before the World War, 37.9 per cent of the male population above seven years were literate and 12.5 per cent of the female population. During the next fifteen years literacy made no great strides among the population. The general census of December, 1926, however, revealed that the energetic struggle against illiteracy conducted by the Soviet State was bearing fruit. For the first time in Russian history the majority of the population could read and write. The percentages of literacy were 65.4 for males and 36.7 for females (above the age of seven years). The literate population of the Soviet Union was: males, 35,940,975; females, 22,038,261.
>By the 1930s the USSR declared the abolition of homelessness and any citizen was obliged to have a propiska – a place of permanent residency. Nobody could be stripped of propiska without substitution or refuse it without a confirmed permission
>The story of the Soviet Union’s postwar years appears almost as remarkable as the story of the war.
>The USSR came to victory in 1945 only after first coming close to total defeat. In 1945 the Red Army occupied Tallinn, Riga, Vilnius, Warsaw, Berlin, Vienna, Prague, Budapest, and Sofia, but behind the army the country lay in ruins. Its people had suffered 25 million premature deaths. The survivors were profoundly weary. Many hoped for reconciliation and relaxation. >Despite this, in the years immediately following, the Soviet economy and polity returned quickly to their previous form.
Yeah I guess if you murder enough illiterate poor people literacy will indeed go up. Great accomplishment, really worth it. >no more homelessness Making everyone equally as poor forcefully is no accomplishment. There was no general increase in wealth, just a "homogenization" of people's relative wealth, meaning the majority of the population lived like shit.
Why did the Ukrainians deserve it? >muh soviets show all the communist countries, not the best one. My country's failed system is superior to every commie country out there. Also, you fail to explain why capitalism still goes on, while communist regimes are virtually extinct, best example muh soviets I'd still fuck her
Isaiah Ward
great thread, love the sound arguments for communism.
>chicken legged antifaggot comes in pol >copy pasta thread he's posted a zillion times > no defense for the genocidal trail of death even Genghis Khan wouldve marveled at
you people are a bunch of spoiled brats who cling to an edgy ideology because it makes you feel unique. Can you even fathom the amount of suffering that watching your children starve to death would be like. while you sit there sipping an venti free run coffee freely posting your ideas of which you wouldn't be able to do in the very society you advocate.
In fact if American capitalists were even a smidge as despotic as communists you'd be imprisoned for this terrible thread.
>I'm in both Just like Communism is both Jewish and anti-White, right?
Brody Myers
came here only for this. nice new picture btw
Asher Allen
>what is this facebook-tier shit? did you save this from infowars page? You know Stalin fucked a Jew, right? Are you seriously okay with that? I mean...he fucked...a Jew...
Adrian Howard
Because the quote literally doesn't exist before 2015.
Ryder Cox
Under communism who gets the nice beach houses? Never had a Marxist who could answer that
Anthony Gomez
>Because the quote literally doesn't exist before 2015. And yet Communism has always been Jewish and anti-White...go figure.
Hello gomrades! X_DDddDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of ebin revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. X_-DDDD >Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :-DDDDd >To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all FUG. When capitalists run away we win and I gill you all. Eventually the fungtions of state stob and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. gommies.gom/fug/ gommies.gom/starve/
>Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :-DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. (BENIS :_DD)
>Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.
>Sdage 4 Nod real gommunism. Nexzt gountry. problems werent. :^DDdd
you again! nefarious creature. must you disturb every communist general?!
Jack Bennett
ok times for some serious red pills.
>why do we do communism? capitalists are the tyrants of our times, they enslave us by the way of wageslaving, it disfigures the human soul and turns the planet earth into an impoverished hellhole. while we toil the bath in money and flood us with thirld worlders. they keep us like livestock, like animals. we are nothing more to them. we try to stop them, we try to secure a future for our children and we try to achieve a just society where the economy works for us and not vice versa.
>white middle class shit ive forsaken both my class and my race, im beyond such things.
>what is class war? its also called class struggle since its not actually a typical war for the most part. the foe is basically rich people, the methods are disowning and nationalizing (first stage), physical harming is frowned upon, but in self defense it can sadly occur. the goal is a just and classless (people cant get rich) society where we do economy and trade to serve our needs (comfy living) not the needs of the decadent (porsche,huge mansions, luxury etc.) capitalists.
this basically means that work is being reduced drastically, lots of free time and no envy or jealousy because noone owns more than you do.
alphas and betas will still exist though and if youre racist, well bad luck since the classless society doesnt care about that, everyone is welcome and will be treated the same. but the treatment will be harsh for everyone, so no group will be better off, that i can guarantee you!
>communists are puny and meek and need laws to protect their ideas >our ideology is pure Truth and even the harshest laws can't contain it from spreading
>"b-but communism always failed!" did it really fail?
fear of communist revolutions and fear of communist states forced the capitalists to soften up on their tyranny. they had to implement communist policies to stave us off, so in the end we kind of reached some of our goals. and communist states themselves only failed because capitalists waged war against them and at the same time many peoples were not yet ready for communism. we also havent yet established a best practice model of how to implement communism in an optimal way, more research and trials are needed. weve learned much from the past and while communism is on lifes upport right now, the future is shining golden since capitalism is in its late stage and will soon fail the people completely. then they will rise up and with them we will be back.
communism has a bad name right now so they will name it differently but it will be communism in anything but name. dont let the details distract you.
based I'm assuming you are talking about fascism? You people have no right to make fun of communism failing since every instance of fascism has failed faster
Hudson Russell
The Communist Party of the United States, or any successors of such party regardless of the assumed name, whose object or purpose is to overthrow the Government of the United States, or the government of any State, Territory, District, or possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein by force and violence, are not entitled to any of the rights, privileges, and immunities attendant upon legal bodies created under the jurisdiction of the laws of the United States or any political subdivision thereof; and whatever rights, privileges, and immunities which have heretofore been granted to said party or any subsidiary organization by reason of the laws of the United States or any political subdivision thereof, are terminated:
Ryan Perry
(a) Whoever knowingly and willfully becomes or remains a member of (1) the Communist Party, or (2) any other organization having for one of its purposes or objectives the establishment, control, conduct, seizure, or overthrow of the Government of the United States, or the government of any State or political subdivision thereof, by the use of force or violence, with knowledge of the purpose or objective of such organization shall be subject to all the provisions and penalties of the Internal Security Act of 1950, as amended [50 U.S.C. 781 et seq.], as a member of a “Communist-action” organization. (b) For the purposes of this section, the term “Communist Party” means the organization now known as the Communist Party of the United States of America, the Communist Party of any State or subdivision thereof, and any unit or subdivision of any such organization, whether or not any change is hereafter made in the name thereof.
Kayden Gonzalez
In determining membership or participation in the Communist Party or any other organization defined in this Act, or knowledge of the purpose or objective of such party or organization, the jury, under instructions from the court, shall consider evidence, if presented, as to whether the accused person: (1) Has been listed to his knowledge as a member in any book or any of the lists, records, correspondence, or any other document of the organization; (2) Has made financial contribution to the organization in dues, assessments, loans, or in any other form; (3) Has made himself subject to the discipline of the organization in any form whatsoever; (4) Has executed orders, plans, or directives of any kind of the organization; (5) Has acted as an agent, courier, messenger, correspondent, organizer, or in any other capacity in behalf of the organization; (6) Has conferred with officers or other members of the organization in behalf of any plan or enterprise of the organization;
Ethan Perez
(7) Has been accepted to his knowledge as an officer or member of the organization or as one to be called upon for services by other officers or members of the organization; (8) Has written, spoken or in any other way communicated by signal, semaphore, sign, or in any other form of communication orders, directives, or plans of the organization; (9) Has prepared documents, pamphlets, leaflets, books, or any other type of publication in behalf of the objectives and purposes of the organization; (10) Has mailed, shipped, circulated, distributed, delivered, or in any other way sent or delivered to others material or propaganda of any kind in behalf of the organization; (11) Has advised, counseled or in any other way imparted information, suggestions, recommendations to officers or members of the organization or to anyone else in behalf of the objectives of the organization; (12) Has indicated by word, action, conduct, writing or in any other way a willingness to carry out in any manner and to any degree the plans, designs, objectives, or purposes of the organization; (13) Has in any other way participated in the activities, planning, actions, objectives, or purposes of the organization; (14) The enumeration of the above subjects of evidence on membership or participation in the Communist Party or any other organization as above defined, shall not limit the inquiry into and consideration of any other subject of evidence on membership and participation as herein stated.
>did it really fail? yes, because it wasn't able to follow the enemy's change in tactics >more research and trials are needed which you won't get. Also, I'll assume you're not an ancom, how will you do away with the massive repressing mechanism that there will always be instated in order to keep the party on top?? Who would start the 2nd revolution needed to fully abolish the state, since no dictator would let his power wither away?? You'd need to face the secret police, the army plus the people's brainwashing from the first revolution
Grayson Brooks
Fuck your mother
Kevin Foster
Show your flag. There is no way you're American. American commies always stop posting when they're reminded of Tittle 50. Generally because they're very quickly disappeared
we will find out. a permanent revolution may be necessary. it wont be perfect of course, but capitalism isnt perfect either. maybe all that communism is good for is serving as a weapon in class war. i will measure its success by looking at how well off the people are and how the environment fares.
Sounds like a state AND a class: a group which has more power than those he oversees.
Looks like I’ve defeated communism again.
Owen Brooks
Wrong and wrong
Cameron Gomez
what in "classless" didnt you understand? you may have certain privileges earned by certain merits but you will not ever own the means of production. and stateless means there will be one big world government.
