>Born in Iceland
>Family is Pagan, all my ancestors were
>One of the few Europeans who is a practising non LARpagan
>Taken part in animal sacrifice, mead festivals since I was a babe
>Most people think of Paganism as the American meme tier shit, we are not vikings, we don't believe in literal deities or magic
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reminder Iceland isn't even Germanic. It's full of Irish mutts brought to the island from Turkish ships.
got any pagan texts or the like? what do you define the difference between a larper and non larper?
Here are some questions
>What area of Iceland do you live in?
>Where you scared of doing sacrifices?
>Hows the pagan community doing? (Technology and Economy mainly
>What's your fave god?
>Can you give us pics of the rituals, town and shiet?
Yeah, no you fucking burger retard.
It was settled by Norwegians plus some British and Irish thralls.
Barbary pirates raided it like once c. 600 years later.
So why the memeflag? Where are you now?
Do you gurgle much while practicing Seyðr?
> we don't believe in literal deities or magic
Sounds like a fake ass viking larp desu
>stþ ég aldist ekki upp við Ásatrú
mjög slæm tilfinning heimalningur góður
Ég skipti hinsv egar yfir í ásatrú þegar ég var 18 minnir mig, en það er ekki eins
1.Real Paganism is essentially an outlook on life and an extension of the worship of nature, this is a perennialist and tribalist world view. It is in a sense esoteric national socialism, or the romantic idealist ideology, but a pre-scientific version of it, blood and soil for the ancient world.
2. Real Pagans are not literalists or objectivisits, an example being Nordic men often wore upside down crosses to gain the favour of both Jesus and Thunor. The Gods are the archetypes of a peoples, their minds, cultures create Gods and we ourselves are the gods. This is the basic concept, the worship ofthe gods is in essence honouring the ideal man to be, Wise and knowledgeable like Wotan, Strong as the oak and protector of Humanity. These are tributes to our brave almost mythically tough ancestors and archetypes to become like.
3. Pagan literature is where you want to start before delving into the sagas or the old bits of rune parch many of the families in Iceland still have as sacred family valuables. Survive the Jive has a reading list which I find ok, though I don't think he covered some of my favourites:
he One-Eyed God: Odin and the (Indo-)Germanic Männerbünde
The Road to Hel: A Study of the Conception of the Dead in Old Norse Literature
Myths and Symbols in Pagan Europe: Early Scandinavian and Celtic Religions by H.R. Ellis Davidson
Because posting without a memeflag means people can trace your IP. I never post on the chans without it.
Fylgdu gömlu guðunum eða þú munt verða auðmjúkur og mjúkur sem Kristur, sem hvetur kvenkyns menn í Ameríku
I would be proud to have Irish ancestors, a great people. Not something I would ever see a shame in.
>178634588
Það mun ég gera félagi, heiðni er okkar rétta trú.
Er notkun rúna algeng í fjölskyldunni þinni, ertu læs á þær?
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Real pagans (which you aren't) sincerely believed in and worshiped their gods as much as anyone of any other religious does/did.
The thing is, the more you try rationalise ancient religious beliefs for an atheistic modern audience, the more you lose the essence of religion, some weird fictional character or allegorical story used to explain a purely natural phenomenon has no essential purpose.
On the other hand, when you believe/know that powerful otherworldly beings rule and influence our world and our lives, managing our relations with them via religion becomes something of utmost importance.
To repeat
Here are some questions
>What area of Iceland do you live in?
>Where you scared of doing sacrifices?
>Hows the pagan community doing? (Technology and Economy mainly
>What's your fave god?
>Can you give us pics of the rituals, town and shiet?
So you come on the internet just to lie to people?
christianity has been doing just that for hundreds of years as it ceeds continually growing ground to the march of scientific progress.
First heleocentricism,
then evolution
then cosmological decentralization
then no privlaged reference frame
the literalism in the bible bit by bit given way to anecdotes and falsehoods.
Sure they did, before they understood evolution or any scientific principles, faced with these facts believing in Yahweh or Allah or Wotan is something only a really idiotic person with cognitive dissonance could do.
An analysis of religious memes and in particular Paganism is easily done, Jung did an excellent job of deconstructing it, which left us with a secular was to be fanatical pagans.
Just as most of Japan is atheist but still practise shinto.
This is because a non abrahamic religion can be just as powerful, if not more in an esoteric and archetypal form, where as literalist abrahamic faiths are shit without literal belief, but only the idiotic can beleive in it literally.
And they focus on it being real as opposed to it being true. As a famous Vedic wise man once said about the text refering to the gods fighting a heroic battle:
"I don't know if it happened but I know it is true".
Truth in a spiritual sense transcends reality and become about the higher truths in the sacred texts, passed down from the ancestors to the youth of today.
I can find truth in the bible, in the Qur'an, in the Vedic texts, in the mythology of Wotan and Thor, my ancestors Gods and truths.
What do you know about Cernunnos?
1. Won't give personal info
2. No, these were done by my family for generations, we usually collect the blood to make blood sausage and then fire roast the animal to feast on. We give toasts to our ancestors and those we love and make vows for things we are determined to do to be better.
3.Most Pagans in Iceland are regular people, we have public shrines and areas set out for our faith and it is recognised by the state.
4. Thunor is the working mans primary God, he was always the god of the poorer peoples, the farmers, the builders etc. He protects the common man.
5. You can google the public areas in Iceland and visit, I won't give you my families spot because it is ours and not public, we own the land for generations.
>Cernunnos
He is a male version of our own Goddess Freyja, she is the Goddess of fertility, love, war and death. She is likely to share the same root with cernunnos and other indo-european gods, this archetype also became the vedic god Parvati, likely taken to Northern India by the Aryan tribes.
As we know the Aryans who migrated/invaded india breeded themselves out of existence but their pantheon survives in Hindusim, which is a mixed pantheon of Indo European and Indian native dieties.
> Sure they did, before they understood evolution or any scientific principles, faced with these facts believing in Yahweh or Allah or Wotan is something only a really idiotic person with cognitive dissonance could do.
The concept of a deity is that of a spiritual being not a physical one. Science is the means by which we measure and quantify the physical, causal universe, so a spiritual, acausal being lies outside the boundaries of what science could possibly prove or disprove. The basic precept of all religion is the existence of a spiritual matter and spiritual beings and places in addition to physical matter, etc.
Once you have a purely materialist, scientific worldview, what is the point of going through the motions of worshipping "archetypes"? Why not just confine them to the field of psychology like Jung did instead of pouring libations of mead to them?
Nice blog faggot
What will you say to the Lord when you die?
gay
hows that first rabbi doing?
>being a sodomite
Hell is for ever!
What religious advice do you have for us?
>we don't believe in literal deities or magic
dropped
Hi lord of the jews. Nice job on duping us for a while. Too bad you lost. Don't worry, you'll do better in the next Kali Yuga.
>we don't believe in literal deities or magic
kill yourself christcuck
reminder:
Thanks for the thread. I hope it's gonna be interesting.
Question do you really believe in the Norse pantheon, do you really believe that they are real? I'm not asking you if you think they are "just spirits, symbols, or the abstract notion of an aspect of nature" What I mean is if you think Odin is really a physical man or can and does assume the form of a physical man and can do wondrous things. Do you think that the world is flat with a tree supporting everything? Do you think a giant serpent is gnawing at the tree? Do you believe that the frost giants are real? Do you believe that sorcery is real? I'm just curious because when you say "i'm not a Larpagan" or whatever I would like to know what you mean by that exactly.
Read above, I answered this.
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Well no you don't mention the flat earth or the world tree or the frost giants. Show me where I misread. I'm genuinely curious
You are describing a meme. Memetic archetypes are religions. There is no god outside material reality. This is creationist retardation.
Stop being this dumb, this is like me saying unicorns exist, but outside of the material world so you can't call me on lack of evidence.
You sound mentally ill.
You asked do I believe in literal deities, fucking look at my responses idiot.
Where I read it and I dont see it.
>1.Real Paganism is essentially an outlook on life and an extension of the worship of nature, this is a perennialist and tribalist world view. It is in a sense esoteric national socialism, or the romantic idealist ideology, but a pre-scientific version of it, blood and soil for the ancient world.
>2. Real Pagans are not literalists or objectivisits, an example being Nordic men often wore upside down crosses to gain the favour of both Jesus and Thunor. The Gods are the archetypes of a peoples, their minds, cultures create Gods and we ourselves are the gods. This is the basic concept, the worship ofthe gods is in essence honouring the ideal man to be, Wise and knowledgeable like Wotan, Strong as the oak and protector of Humanity. These are tributes to our brave almost mythically tough ancestors and archetypes to become like.
>3. Pagan literature is where you want to start before delving into the sagas or the old bits of rune parch many of the families in Iceland still have as sacred family valuables. Survive the Jive has a reading list which I find ok, though I don't think he covered some of my favourites:
>he One-Eyed God: Odin and the (Indo-)Germanic Männerbünde
>The Road to Hel: A Study of the Conception of the Dead in Old Norse Literature
>Myths and Symbols in Pagan Europe: Early Scandinavian and Celtic Religions by H.R. Ellis Davidson
I understand you think as gods as archetypes, the Babylonians did too as did the Romans but they also thought they had real physicalbodies
read
fight on and have lots of kids user
>And they focus on it being real as opposed to it being true. As a famous Vedic wise man once said about the text refering to the gods fighting a heroic battle:
>"I don't know if it happened but I know it is true".
>Truth in a spiritual sense transcends reality and become about the higher truths in the sacred texts, passed down from the ancestors to the youth of today.
>I can find truth in the bible, in the Qur'an, in the Vedic texts, in the mythology of Wotan and Thor, my ancestors Gods and truths.
We are the physical bodies of the gods.
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read
>We are the physical bodies of the gods.
So are you pantheist? Or panentheist? And where is this in norse pagan literature? I know the Norsemen were related to the eastern aryans
So do the gods themselves have physical forms the way the indian gods do even though the hindues believe in a pantheistic world
I wonder if you are always the same kike bot or if theres really a person behind that flag
you're mentally ill because you waste your time "doing rituals" without believing. the gods are real, the world is theirs and we are of their blood. if you actually sacrificed to them or met the genius loci of your farmstead you would know this, but you're just some idiot who spends time on his smartphone while his mother butchers a goat
no hard feelings, though. as said, good fortune to you and maybe your children will know better
Do you think that giants are real? Do you think that the world tree is real?
Oh my god you are so fucking dumb. Why are all Americans so fucking dumb. I want it to just be a meme but it's not.
Here's another question does yoru belief about how the world came into being line up with traditional norse mythology? For example in Babylonian paganism they believed that the gods cut up the body of a dragon to make the earth and the waters of the oceans had always existed in eternity. If I were to say that I am a babylonian pagan I would assert that this is literally true in a physical way along with any allegorical or hidden truths it may contain, as the Babylonians believed that their gods were the archetypes of certain things in the world. But they thought that Babylonian deities had a physical body to interact with the world. With the hindu beliefs I know that they have pantheistic beliefs but also believe that their gods can and had in the past assumed physical forms, as with the whole idea with the Avatar
Believing in things that go against science is a sign of mental illness. Believing in tradition and nature and perrennial religious practise is the basis for Fascism you LARPER.
The traditions of a people is what the entire fascist and national socialist aesthetic and ideology is based on, Volk.
Believing some kike in the sky is actually real and will be the difference between eternal salvation and hellfire is retarded, you know evolution is real, you know science disproves such nonsense.
Carrying out tradition, in the name of the ancestors, carrying their memetic symbols and mythologies, as a tradition passed down, as a form of nature and ancestor worship, is about as national socialist as it gets.
Your ancestors created the Gods and the gods are a product of their blood, their soil, their culture, their subconscious.
Worhsip them or a kike who was crucified by your Pagan white ancestors, your choice schlomo.
Are you in contact with the Icelandic pagan temple that they are building or have build, and what are your thoughts on pagan revival overall.
answer my questions
>we don't believe in literal deities or magic
then you're clearly LARPing, the archons are real
If you don't believe in God's who are you sacrificing animals to you doorknob
I know Jón and Kristín who started the Sacred earth protection to protect holy sites, I don't like the revival stuff though, it is essentially just re-branded Christianity and LARPING.
Most of the people doing it are former Christians, no Pagans want this shit, we worship with our in, not strangers.
Do believe and use traditional Nordic measurement system or do you use the metric system that was invented by a bunch of Jews? For example originally the Romans used the Roman mile which was 1 thousand paces which is a little bit shorter than the mile from the Imperial measurement system we use in burger land. today Italians use the kilometer which was not what their pagan ancestors used. Pagan celts used the Acre which was how much an ox can plow in one day. If you still hold to the metric system why do you chose it.
answer my questions
If you don't answer my questions Ill screencap this and mock you forever and ever
Pagans are generally considered laughing stock in Iceland. Almost all of them are just larping anyway.
You still can't explain the purpose of an atheist "worshiping" templates for fictional characters.
To the Gods, to the ancestors, to ourselves. This is why fedoras are western autistics with zero happiness buried in materialism and the rest of the world are happy being religious in a scientific age.
Look up Perrennialism, read Evola, read up on paganism. The acting out of traditions is the point, it is a memetic force that gives root and anchoring to a peoples.
The act of carrying out the tradition is where the power comes from. to Worship Odin is to worship Odin, but also to worship the ancestors, the race, the blood and soil, the archetype.
Listen to Julius Evola on Buddhism and if you still don't get it, I am afraid you will never understand traditionalism:
>I don't like the revival stuff though, it is essentially just re-branded Christianity and LARPING.
Agree
>no Pagans want this shit, we worship with our in, not strangers.
So in case if someone would ask your group to be converted (I know conversion is
Christian motif but still) you wouldn't accept him or them? Also what are your thoughts on Christianity?
These are former chrisitans. No real Pagans do this. We wear Jeans and boots and normal jackets. This is why I hate the revival bullshit which is essentially a polytheist Episcopalianism
>let me telll you which parts of the world are huwyt
Christianity is a powerful meme. Many of our ancestors would wear a cross upside down to worship Thunor and Jesus when travelling through the lands of Christ.
Jesus is just another Avatar, another peoples avatar, not the God of our kin but one to respect and admire, his qualities are much like Thunors, a protector of mankind.
All religious avatars and archetypes are sacred and valued. Worhsiping any Gods other than those of your blood is missing the point entirely though.
>Carrying out tradition, in the name of the ancestors, carrying their memetic symbols and mythologies, as a tradition passed down, as a form of nature and ancestor worship, is about as national socialist as it gets
Of course. The ancestors had untainted spirituality and they knew their own place in relation to the Gods. We follow the mos maiorum (european, not latin) and the stories inherited will only be smaller pieces of this earthly cycle.
>to Worship Odin is to worship Odin, but also to worship the ancestors, the race, the blood and soil, the archetype.
Then worship him you kike, if you enact the myth you become the archetype the Gods created and you are worthy of far more. If you become the myth blood becomes blood and a peoples fate changes. How can you be so close to belief yet refuse it like some christcuck refusing his own blood?
>crucified by your Pagan white ancestors, your choice schlomo
kek
>we don't believe in literal deities or magic
Fake pagan.
If one wants to worship the Gods and honour his ancestors nothing is stopping him. If a friend of mine wanted to join me and do it I would welcome him.
Some stranger, I would tell him to fuck off. I have my tribe and we adhere to the old Gods and honour our ancestors, find your tribe, find your beliefs and do as you please, would be my advise to him.
>Jesus is just another Avatar, another peoples avatar, not the God of our kin but one to respect and admire
some sakro sawel autism right there, not worth anyone's time lmao
This
Stop Larping. You are some fedora tipper who hasn't read any actual perrennialist or traditionalist tracts but LARPS as a fascist online.
Meanwhile my ancestors passed down to me the traditions and practices of my ancestors, we are rooted to our soil, our race and culture.
You binge on materialism and can't fill yourself with meaning or happiness. I just feel sorry for you people. What an awful way to live and have been raised.
Do you think the world tree and giants are real? Do you believe in the norse myths literally physically?
>Worhsiping any Gods other than those of your blood is missing the point entirely though.
If I would like to become religious I would probably choose Christianity.
My family names seem to come from forest god. Tapio was forest god that decides what one gets from the forest, he has in Kalevala poems three castles one made of wood, one made of stone and one made of bones, seems to be God of seasons and life and death and personification of forest. I do some research into Finnish paganism, so I technically could go to my roots, but it would most likely be just larping. Also I don't get the meme of your gods are in your blood.
Do you have any advice for those of us not fortunate enough to have been raised pagan? Should we even attempt to become pagan or should we practice some other religion?
>The Road to Hel
really makes you think
>Too bad you lost
Wow, you really don't get it do you?
Good luck, I'll say a prayer for you and your family.
Can we see your flag?
It is you who does not get it. We'll be praying for you too.
Excellent anti christcuck memes. Saved! Please post more.
>op forgot he's using a memeflag
>op hasn't even read my post and just heard about Jung and Evola on some asatru board
>op repeating the same words in post after post: "larper", "materialism"
>op can't even respond to the american memester asking him questions
lmao, keep the frustration down and stop wanking to some semitic avatar
of course. our world, the universe and our ancestors reside in the world tree, together with the Gods. We share the same sap with the world tree and the same blood with the Gods. The giants are all that is evil and all that is instinctual, they are real enemies in the war of the Gods and their own force and materialization is in the dangers and labors of Nature. In this world the only physical things that are divine is family/race and nature, the myths are spiritual evocations of the non-physical world, they happen as we speak and have since the beginning of time, you could say Odin dies and lives between each human breath and sacrifice but simply put time is not in the divine world
lol, go cry in some corner to rabbi joshua
Do you believe that the frost giants and the world tree are physically real and Odin is real physically assuming a human body.
So you think they aren't physically real only immaterially?
To whom do you pray, and what am I not getting? How did the Lord lose if He conquered death?
You're going to conquer death? Ok.
>rabbi
I've never even met a rabbi, you fully-fledged retard.
I pray to my ancestors, some of whom might even be your ancestors too. What you're not getting is that Europeans will not see Yahweh when we die. Our ancestors save us from his wrath every time.
I'm not a Germanic pagan so that doesn't apply to me. I understand the confusion though since this thread is primarily about the Germanic religion.
So apparently you think that this stuff is spiritual only. It's not really physically real like this picture here. It's just a allegorical description
Do you think that it's physically real though the German myths?
What kind of Pagan???
they can be, lol. it's they who created the world, physicality
i don't think some wankers on an imageboard such as ourselves will meet them too son, though. maybe not now, it's not like we're treating our blood and the soil we live on admirably. sacrifice and faith does bring them closer, immensely.
>he doesn't even know who rabbi joshua bar joseph is
holy shit, are you for real?
So they can but do you think that they are? Yes or no. I assume here you are stating that it is possible but that is not an assertion of belief
I'm not sure I understand your question. If I'm not a Germanic pagan, why would I believe in Germanic myths?
So you believe in the 8 legged horse and the valkeries and the way they world will end with ragnarok? Fenrir the wolf and also how the gods will die eventually and the world will be remade, that Thor ride that chariot in the sky, the rainbow bridge, how women only go to Valhalla if they die in childbirth and men if they die in battle, you literally physically believe that?
So you think your gods have physical human bodies like Thor or Zeus? Give me your literature of what you beleive in that happened physically
You are anything but a pagan if you doubt Odin
As my disdain has grown for Christianity so to has it for "paganism" and all other ancient religions. The problem is I really don't feel I know enough about ancient religions to tear into them.
As I understand it one of the corner stones for your worship is because your ancestors worshiped as you do. So on some level it brings you closer to them and gives you a solid place in this world which makes you happier than the average modern man, who has fallen for materilasim. The very fact that your typing this thounsands of miles away really makes me doubt that on any real level we can understand the world as the ancients did. Even if we might try to understand how or why. Any attempts to understand and relate to our ancestors are as noble as they are misguided. We might as well live in two different universes the world which we inhabit are unrecognizable. If the very same ancestors were brought into the world as it is I doubt they would worship the way you do.
While I do not believe in those specific myths because I am not a Germanic pagan, what would be the trouble in believing them?
Personally, I believe there is some truth in most folk religions. There are many gods, but their powers are frequently exaggerated. As for a specific god I follow, there is Providence as understood by the Founding Fathers.
Well I wasnt asking you that. I asked for some of your literature, I would like to read it, I collect and read pagan myths, i have a library full of mesopotamian, celtic, greek, ect ect
>providence
Provide a list of your pantheon and sacred texts
Congratulations you are the same as the rural Cubans who are born and raised in santero families and sacrifice animals to the spirits. You go user.
Saging because you are still a faggot and this isnt reddit