Could a United Iberia work?
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No.Thats a terrible idea.
We both have our own identity and culture separate from each other.
Portus dont want to be spaniards,spaniards dont want to be Portus.
With that being said Arriva espanha.
No.
There´s no desire whatsoever by Spaniards nor Portuguese to be united like that.
We enjoy our relationship as neighbors.
Portugal and Spain should unite and then take over the Gibraltar Straight in order to control access to the Northern Atlantic Ocean. Money problems solved forever.
Yes we do.
We need stronger relations desu
What's the point? Don't they already have free movement and trade between them?
They speak different languages, albeit barely and highly mutually intelligible, and have different cultures, histories, average national phenotypes, etc., what would be the point of forcing them together when they already get the economic-cultural 'benefits' of having unobstructed borders and trade?
How would that solve their more general and long-lasting financial problems/inability?
Nope that wouldn't work, but Portugal needs to boost its interior areas, it's no coincidence that the lower economic regions of Spain border Portugal.
This entire country is fucked.
In 10-15 years spain is problably going to have portuguese refugees has this becomes the new venezuela.Do not accept us in.
Not at all.
We're good as we are now.
Agreed.
Good relationships between iberians is a must but diluting even more our identities would be a terrible mistake.
With that being said força Portugal.
fuck you cracker
Of course but you will get brown MARRANOS sewing division and conflict.
I am not talking about a "union", i am just talking about us having tighter relationships,care a little more what happens to each other,more trade.
gracias amigo
both are right, we just need to keep our commie problem in check and i hope that spaniards deal with their shit quick before it metastasize's here in full force, if shit hits the fan we need to keep each other's back
We need to stop talking and larping online and take to the streets.
We just should keep being good neighbors, and strenghten relations outside EU, after that the future will say.
even though i somewhat agree with you, after seeing how the poo in the loo got to power here and seeing that we are more interested in bread and circus soap operas i have little faith that anything will get done. Our only hope is too keep being irrelevant so even shitskins dont want to stay here and that some major event in europe will wake up all the normies into what's actually happening
It wont dude,i dont even care about people insulting "blackpills" but theres no fucking way this country isnt going to be like venezuela in 15 years,theres just no fucking way it wont.
>Population doesnt care about anything important,muh soccer and government gibs(aldo this also entails more taxes which they cant into...)
>already get Taxed like crazy and a new generation of pensioners will be created in like 10 years(our parents that are like 50s-early 60s)
>Nobody to pay for this,youth is leaving
>Immigrants pouring in
>Need to increase taxes because of above,causing massive inflation
>No right wing in this country,every day the left and the far left gain more ground to a point its almost impossible to be right wing or "centrist"/nationalist here
>Censorship and authoritarianism looming around just waiting for the time to be right
portugal is as different from castille as catalonia. or galicia. why should galicia or catalonia be part of spain and portgul be independent?
with that said, dont balkanize, trust me on that one.
UNITE like in 10th century. We are again facing the hordes of Islam.
Agreed.
Wasnt talking on an Union
I know the feeling man, iam a luso american that doesn't plan to leave cuz even with all the shit going on, I still love this country and believe that we will endure...We are more dependent of what happens in other countries than people here realize, shit just takes longer to happen here, and by then, i think europe's mentality will change, as we can start seeing the beginnings of it now.
>why should galicia or catalonia be part of spain and portgul be independent?
Because we kicked their asses several times to secure the right of having our own nation.
Also we first started cause the king of asturias had a bastard daughter and he gave her dominion over our small kingdom that soon after expanded south.
We should just shill for something aesthetic rather than another pseudo EU.
What we need is fascism. Whether or not the countries merge is really irrelevant in comparison.
We need closer relations outside the framework of the UE.
Also daily reminder of that time when the bongs got so BTFO that they deleted it from history books:
It would pollute Portuguese society
yet another episode of a burger being completely ignorant to European matters
>What we need is fascism. Whether or not the countries merge is really irrelevant in comparison.
Based
>before it metastasize's here in full force
what else will the commies do? you've already been bringing niggers from the ex colonies for decades
Nigger, Spain and Portugal are family at this point.
wait, portugal is the result of a bastard kid? holy crap, you can't make this shit up
they have been family for a long time, this doesn't mean they should unite you illiterate amerifat.
Go ask Norway if they want to be under Danish rule again
>What we need is fascism
this country would go by fine with nationalism/national gov,a organic national rebirth and deep policies changes,theres no need for "fascism" here,most people do not want authoritarianism and censorship.
fpbp
we are two separate cultures that work well just like that
in case of another Reconquista (probably soon) we could discuss some form of strategic alliance, but limited to military and security matters in the Península
No because Madrid ruins everything it takes part of.
Partially yes.
What's wrong with censoring communist degenerates? If you don't this is what happens
Namely the crown. Because sinking hundreds of ships on the coast of England and being backstabbed by Napoleon wasnt enough.
The capital of Iberia should be the old capital of Asturias.
Censorship is a slipery slope and it wouldnt end with communist degenerates,it would just create rebellion and dissent if people were taken the right of free expression.It would be censorship of any opposing ideas(including liberalism,moderate right) stretching to the media,internet.Literally almost nobody wants that here,it would be a good idea for the regime to end quickly has people woulf grew tired of it.Nationalism and classic third position is the way.
would
Constitutional Dictatorship all the way. Fuck democracy of the plebs.
Brazil the Mulatto Bastard Child of a Bastard Daughter.
no but united gallaecia with galician and northen portuguese brothers and sister united, I would agree
>Deixa de ser necessário relatório médico
while I'm not gonna deny that, it's always entertaining to see amerimutts thinking they're hot shit
wasnt that vetoed?
Not with that hideous green stripe.
We're fine the way we are.
Wouldn't mind having a military alliance for issues regarding the defense of the peninsula or something like that tho
Number 1 Economy, Number 1 Airforce, US Navy 2 Airforce, Number 1 Army, Number 1 Army. Yeah we aren't hot shit....
I understand what you mean, we can't scare away new right followers, but down the road i think nothing of value will be lost if we censor a few degenerates.
>wasnt that vetoed?
I think it passed, not sure, glanced over it in my tv.
Better this way trips?
Portugal used to be the Jew capital of the world. Gas the Portuguese and give all that to Spain, preferably the regions that never got MOORED.
I have no idea, I'm simply working with what's ITT
Don't forget number 1 good goyim :^)
Number 1 importer of non whites, number 1 destroyer of Europe(you're nothing more than the jews' military arm), number 1 country with debt... GO MURICA!
That would be dope. Separate governments unified military.
Bring Gibraltar into the fold as well.
Take us back.
guess who's the current jew capital of the world.
I'll never share country with marranos
>Portugal used to be the Jew capital of the world.
But now it's amerimutt land that's the Jew capital of the world, how does it make you feel?
"US Gov.," i.e. the Obama administration.
I know it's really hard to understand being a third worlder in a banana republic whose vote really doesn't matter, but US presidents are basically semi dictators. The pendulum swings dramatically and the makeup of the government changes dramatically president by president.
Merkel, Sarkozy, Cameron, Blair, these aren't American plants, Felipe. These are cucks the limp-wristed, effete, decadent Euros voted in themselves and were complacent under. And now Trump is the only leader on the national stage calling out Europe's migration policies and leadership.
The EU has a bigger population and economy than the US. How in the fuck do we control them?
That's a nice flag with its roots to he past but it looks too much like the Union Jack. I would go for a new design all along. I honestly would go for a white flag with the cross of Santiago on it like in this painting, but that's too much to dream, it's impossible to have this kind of flag unless the union is done under a new-right or traditionalist order. If we united today under our current sociopolitical order we would have a masonic tier, boring, striped flag with ugly and unmatching colors.
Yeees :3
Fuck off , annex us pls
can the Norwegian army fight you ?
Holy fucking shit, imagine being this deluded. How is that fox news narrative working for you?
>The US dindu nuffin
>It was okay before obama!
>presidents have a lot of power here!
>muh god emperor
Just when I think nothing else will disgust me, after all such is life in Brazil, there comes an American. Unbelievable.
>more trade
What trade is missing?
This one's better desu :^)
Sometimes simple is better.
Let's start humble.
We are brothers, and as brothers, we should live our life separated
Why would the norwegian army fight a norwegian?
nice flag but no
I like the Spanish a lot and there's honestly no other nation I'd consider closer to family.
But I don't wanna share a country with them.
Both our countries are run by feminists and socialists, why would you want to unite two sharts together?
o fuck i dropped my spaghetti there i mean can the danish fight you ?
All under the Moroccan Flag.
how does this even change now? do things have to completely collapse first? i feel like they won't, or they'll be kept at a level where everyone is at least able to live at the lowest possible standards and everything that bad happens will be "fixed" by importing millions of niggers
you didn't even address or refuted anything he said and just made stuff up.
blaming Americans for European problem's will take us nowhere, the same thing happens in every communist shit hole where their rulers always point out big bad America as the reason of their misery while they fuck you in the ass.
If we adopted this flag again under the current order and state of affairs, it would be nothing less than spitting on it and insulting our ancestors. Let that flag rest in peace and bask on its past glory, until we are a serious country again.
i think people are waking up thanks to salvini
I'd crush your skull like my ancestors did to yours before you tried any of that.
can i get annexed too?
No, they are harmless people now.
Mostly just go around on their bikes and drink beer
Spanish/Portuguese ultramarine territories when?
I have a better version of that pic
fpbp
It won't.
The people have been dumbed down to a point where nothing matters, no sense of patriotism unless it's soccer or Casa dos Segredos, the almost 50% abstention is the voting polls proves it. The government has been fucking up continously for decades now but the people keep voting for the parties because "it'll be different now, we'll get an extra 10€ at minimum wage" meanwhile our people are fleeing the country in the thousands and more and more nogs are coming in. They are also completely oblivious when it comes to international affairs but they're quick to "FUARCK BLUMPFH ! !!" because everyone else is doing it.
We also have no right wing parties, my mom thinks PSD is far right lol. Apparently anything right of communism is far right
Sounds like here.
I hear Iberia I only think pork.
they have to but wont
yeah its so sad, instead of any chaos happening it's just going to be an ultra slow process of import the nogs > racemix with the nogs > nogs with nogs > more nogs > mutt nogs with nogs and us > end up looking like brazil but eventually even more extreme probably
lmao saved
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