ustine Greening became the first senior Conservative to back calls for a second Brexit referendum on Sunday night, as Theresa May faced a battle with her own MPs and grass roots Tories over her Chequers proposal.
The former education secretary, who campaigned to remain in the European Union, told The Times that Theresa May's Brexit deal is "the worst of both worlds" and will ultimately satisfy no one.
She said: "The only solution is to take the final Brexit decision out of the hands of the deadlocked politicians."
Denmark and Ireland decided themselves to vote again, the people could have rejected the new proposals
Greece ignored their referendum itself to the astonishment of Wolfgang Schäuble who argued Grexit was the best solution after the ref.
The EU constitution died. Some parts were picked up in the Lisbon Treaty, but key elements were dead after the French vote.
Robert Gray
>Be a British politician and love the EU. Throw up roadblocks to muck up Brexit. Get the people disgusted with the whole idea and then get them to vote again in order to stay.
Sounds live the typical game plan for you EU cucks
They already voted to leave, why do you want another vote? So it can be rigged in favor of remain?
Austin Butler
I think the first vote was about leaving the EU. The second vote would be about the type of deal the UK should negotiate with the EU, e.g. just trade on WTO terms or get a deal on infustrial goods.
Because they promised to abide by the people's decision maybe?
Ethan Hughes
>I really don't like the outcome of this referendum >I know let's vote again until I get the result I want! Just fuck off, EU is a cancer and needs to be removed in its current state.
Samuel Green
Let's keep voting indefinitely until they select the correct option
t. democracy
Lucas Collins
>can't you fucking peons just let your unelected betters tell you what's good for you?
Nathan Clark
Seems like it
Michael Turner
Im ok with a second referendum
Christopher Gomez
Theresa May sabotaged Brexit. The UK government is proving that votes do not matter if they go against the will of the establishments.
Article 50 has been triggered. If the UK decided not to leave after all, wouldn't the EU start demanding more concessions for them to be let back in? At this stage you really need a military coup with the queen's blessing to properly handle brexit.
Juan Robinson
>hahahaha
Oh well, that certainly invalidated any arguments that may come at you. You monster.
Thomas Reyes
>If the UK decided not to leave after all, wouldn't the EU start demanding more concessions for them to be let back in?
Article 50 can be revoked and then the old membership state would just remain. But that would not be the subject to the referendum, but the question would be one of hard Brexit vs soft Brexit.
Nolan Bennett
You can vote 1000 times but only if you stop when the final "official" vote is for Brexit.
Alexander Butler
Just imagine for one moment there is a second referendum and we vote to leave the EU again, what then?
Jonathan Gomez
>Article 50 can be revoked
No it can't. The agreement literally says that once triggered, the country will exit and membership can only be obtained by applying for it again.
Anyway, brits just pls go already. No deal, no more connections and visas going in and out for everyone, no exceptions.
Justin Morgan
i think they should just have referendums until they get the answer they want
>The agreement literally says that once triggered, the country will exit and membership can only be obtained by applying for it again.
Nope, it doesn’t say so at all. Everything in international politics is reversible by unanimous consent. Otherwise a deranged prime minister of say Sweden could fax an Article 50 notice to Brussel while drunk and Sweden would have to then leave the EU because you couldn’t take it back.
Grayson Cruz
The ref is about hard vs soft Brexit, not about leaving the EU.
Parker Thompson
>Otherwise a deranged prime minister of say Sweden could fax an Article 50 notice to Brussel while drunk and Sweden would have to then leave the EU because you couldn’t take it back.
Uhh frien? That's not how official documents are submitted. They usually have the approval and signatures of many people and official stamps.
Jace Morgan
Let me guess, one of the potential brexit agreements will be the BINO that may was pushing for "so we leave the EU but every single EU agreement remains binding! Gosh I'm clever"
Chase Morris
>unanimous consent >implying EU would just let them revoke it without making extra concessions
Matthew King
>That's not how official documents are submitted. >They usually have the approval and signatures of many people and official stamps.
Not the case for notices under the EU treaty. It depends on who is your head of government and whether he can, under the Swedish constitution, legally act for your government. In case of the UK, a court ended up deciding that the British parliament had to authorize May to send in the A50 letter. But the letter was solely signed by her, no approvals or counter signatures required.
I know that under German law Angela Merkel could single handidly, even without the approval of our parliament, send an Article 50 letter to the European Commission announcing the withdrawal of Germany from the EU.
Yes, the EU would allow to revoke it without concessions. This isn’t even a question.
Dylan Howard
The things that really bug me about the EU are that:
- it allows the selling of weapons made by EU members in conflict areas - it's really bad at it's own PR - it doesn't handle EU crisis better - it pushes laws that are in the form of their first version or not ready to be pushed - it allows corrupt politicians inside it (even if they are elected locally) - it has no office that protects the rights of it's citizens in case they need to report abuse from their own countries or other EU countries
Apart from that, it's not really that bad to be the world's 3rd power considering how small Europe is and that the cultures are vastly different. Sure it requires a bit of improvement and work but it's still worth fighting for considering how most other world powers are not exactly benevolent.
