The worst area hit is probably going to be North Africa and the Middle East. They already import half their food, have high population growth, will face destruction of their food production capacity and higher food prices.
Lets talk about predictions, preparation and the rising fire.
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The malthusian collapse was averted due to oil and other energy resources. However, now that they are gone, societal complexity must drop.
kek Trump's border wall will help us fend off the mass of refugees coming from commie south America, and we can sink anything coming from the Atlantic or Pacific, US and Canada have a lot of land for farming so that's fine, solar, shale, wind are in high supply and once we even start running remotely low we can fire up the nuclear energy machine again
>No Y-axis legend
How the fuck am I supposed to read this.
we're fucked before 2020
literal end times
>>No Y-axis legend
>How the fuck am I supposed to read this.
Bump and also this
Civil war in America will be the first to happen.
While war in America is underway, US military pulls out of Europe, Asia, etc to help support the war effort.
Now Europe is essentially defenseless, Russia moves in for the kill and makes Crimea look like childsplay.
Destability all over the first world, everything else slowly falls apart, commencing the biggest happening in the 21st century.
Repeating for proof
>They already import half their food, have high population growth, will face destruction of their food production capacity and higher food prices.
They will just resort to cannibalism, at least the negri's in Africa. Same thing with the ME to an extent. Let them eat each other.
>The worst area hit is probably going to be North Africa and the Middle East.
And just in time as tolerance is in a down spiral and people are sick of forced ethnic replacement. Ten years from now we'd be to the point of shooting across the border with grande throwers and sinking refugee ships. The global cabal pushed their agenda too soon and failed. People are waking up. It's glorious.
Yes and no. The USA can at least keep up with Oil/Gas energy sources for around another 100 years due to shale/fracking. Not saying the US shouldn't be migrating towards other energy sources such as solar, wind, geothermal, nuclear, etc. But as it stands, the US has a shitload of shale to extract/exploit from.
That was the long term goal of the USA user. We did the 'I drink your milkshake. I drink it up' with the ME. Now, they have no more oil resources left since the rest of the 1st world sucked them try.
'My grand-father rode a camel. I rode a camel, then drove a car. My sons will drive cars, my grandsons will drive cars and the ride camels. my great-grandsons will ride camels'. Thus, the cycle is complete.
Solution: Build more nuclear power plants so we have something to fall back on when the oil runs out.
>The malthusian collapse
This is a mis-understanding. Sharp collapses are unusual - instead, populations growing to their carrying capacity just become poorer and poorer and growth slows.
>2030
I want that shit now though
>Destability
You have to go back, beaner
This, we're well positioned if we can get our political instability under control.
Can you source this info, finnbro? I wanna read more about this.
READ
We are going to have to go police state/fascist at some point. Not some WW2 Nazi Germany (although, some of that stuff might be needed), but the US is going to have to hunker down for a good 20 years, or more. That's why we gotta gtfo out Europe and leave them to their own devices/demise. Also easing shit with Russia is good as well. Getting our borders under control and at least controlling the migration to a rational level is needed too. The US/North America can hang a long while, as at least we are isolated from the rest of the world by sea. as for Europe, Africa, ME, etc. it's gonna be a firestorm.
Eastern Europe is once again going to be a battleground. Have fun.
canada is turbo poz’d future wasteland tho. they’re seeing the fastest demographics shift ever recorded. basically we’ll either need a northern wall as well or simply conquer them
PLEASE YES YES YES LET IT HAPPEN
LET IT NO BE ANOTHER "IT WILL BE CRISIS" STORY
PLEASE LORD IN HEAVENS SAVE WHITE PEOPLE
>Yes and no. The USA can at least keep up with Oil/Gas energy sources for around another 100 years due to shale/fracking. Not saying the US shouldn't be migrating towards other energy sources such as solar, wind, geothermal, nuclear, etc. But as it stands, the US has a shitload of shale to extract/exploit from.
None of that produces enough energy to keep things going. the net energy gain from fracking is about 0, and it destroys natural resources.
Fracking only transforms electricity to oil. Solar, wind and nuclear rely on oil and produce relatively little energy. The return is not high enough to run an industrial society with and more importantly it can not be used to run trucks. No trucks, no modern society.
That is a Malthusian collapse. Fast collapse is about supply chains breaking down, not running out of resources. Of course, it's a big planet, we will face both types.
For a fast collapse see:
yeah no thanks sergei
every graph is labeled though
America grows stronger during the collapse. The old world returns to the dark ages.
>None of that produces enough energy to keep things going. the net energy gain from fracking is about 0, and it destroys natural resources.
>Fracking only transforms electricity to oil. Solar, wind and nuclear rely on oil and produce relatively little energy. The return is not high enough to run an industrial society with and more importantly it can not be used to run trucks. No trucks, no modern society.
You quite literally have no idea what you are talking about. Get back to me later when you at least have been in the field a bit, as in Oil/Gas/exploration, production, etc. The US is going into mad oil shale production as we speak. What you wrote is the dumbest thing I've read this last week.
kys now plz
what, it hasn't happened yet?
and here I've been playing at Mad Max in the western states for five years already
Wrong. Are you aware of what oil/gas/shale resources Russia has? A fuckton. The only thing holding that back right now is the technology and permafrost in the siberian regions. once that stuff starts melting (which it's doing now), it's going to be a huge boon for Russia.
Also Euro, your days are numbered, whether you like it or not.
I didn't not know marines we're being used to capture fishes, tough I suppose when you spend so mutch taim on aircraftcarrier you become very good fisher
>Now Europe is essentially defenseless, Russia moves in for the kill and makes Crimea look like childsplay.
Russia does not have armies that are capable of operating outside Russia. They have not developed the logistical capacity to invade other countries, purposefully I might add, and Russia has been cutting defense spending recently.
While Russia is capable of defending itself, and conducting minor operations to support allies, it can not conduct wars of aggression against anything bigger than the Baltics.
Have anything else to say about possible collapse, Doom Finn?
The policies and deals that Trump is putting in place are designed to TRY and usher in an era of peace and prosperity for the world.
We can get through this if we all work together and use advances in technology etc.
That is the Club of Rome model, Hugo Bardi is a good source on that. It is a fast collapse model, Seneca cliff.
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The future is uncertain, but we face diminished energy, disruptive climate change, depleted topsoil and minerals, and corrupted political systems run by demented elites.
In addition, the reliance on supply chains means that a simple failure of the electricity grid could leave the cities starving.
first world countries won't let that happen unfortunately
Peter Zeihan has some interesting thoughts. I don’t buy his Russian twilight war with Baltic’s, but he spot on about the us going inward due to its newfound energy independence. Meanwhile regional empires will come back. Maybe japan can be great again. It’s going to need oil from Iran or Saudi, but they really might war soon and if China allies with Iran, we get a hot tanker war in se asia.
QE 4 in 2020, hedge your bet against USD.
Should I stockpile potatoes? I think its the harvest season right now.
So you're telling me I've 12 years to prepare?
Good stuff.
Spouting off a fool I see. Is shale some. Uzzword to you? Us is set to be a net oil exporter by 2020. I do not think you understand what is happening in shale right now. As we speak, improvements are progressing rapidly.
>((((((non renewable resources))))))
lmao
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>With the exception of airlines, Chinese state enterprises, and Silicon Valley unicorns — private firms valued at more than $1 billion — shale firms are on an unparalleled money-losing streak. About $11 billion was torched in the latest quarter, as capital expenditures exceeded cashflows. The cash-burn rate may well rise again this year.
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Fracking only exist because they are effectively being subsidized. Have fun losing your state treasure to finance cheap oil for the world.
God, I'm going to be so happy when the nips starve.
A daily reminder collapse alarmists are tinfoil hat tier. Only marginally different from end-of-the-world kooks with their prepping for the second coming on such and such date.
There won't be a collapse. Certainly the populations of developing countries will be decimated at some point, but that's neither here nor there.
2 years m8
Keep an eye on emus
That article is poorly written and using outdated informatio. Please read the first section of ‘the absent superpower’ on shale oil and recent energy independence. As well as current and future projections of cost per barrel. If the prediction of Saudi ppb is correct at a low point of 25-30 dollars, we will see shale in the us become cheaper.
Be thankful for every moment you have to prepare little brother.
>Flashbacks intensify
Africa has been an artifically supported continent in terms of humanity for decades now. Literally all it'd take is the gibs to dry up and Europe would see what we have now, 100fold unless they started gunning down Africans with tanks and machineguns.
And by the time they decided on that, it'd be too late and their economies will be buried under literal piles of humanity.
We will be ok, our biggest problem is demographics. You get to enjoy a hard Russian dickfucking though. Your tranny saunafag half woman army is not the strong defensive men of old. I however have empathy and hope Finland can remain strong and independent. Not likely though. You either be Russia or Germany’s bitch...again...
Go watch Peter Zeihan talk about how crucial the next 20 years are going to be like.
We will literally destroy arable land trying to feed savages. do you understand? Stop caring so much about every other morally reprehensible race/nation that wants to KILL you. Nature has been trying to kill them for decades and the American boomer has done nothing but take us all to the fucking brink of annihilation to stop Natural selection!
We have a strong military, Russia has no offensive capacity, and we have nothing Russia wants and can get by conquest.
We have enough land to feed ourselves. You don't.
Quite possibly more. Straya is out of the way, and the collapse probably begins in the Arab world.
>we have nothing Russia wants
You're right, it's us they want
Their immigration is all Asian and Indian though, nothing really serious or comparable to mass immigration from South America or Africa. Sure, it's unfortunate they'll lose their White Canadian population, but it won't warrant a wall to block them off.
damn, "burger education" is not a meme after all
You read Pettni Linkola?
No one wants you, faggot.
the argument that we are collapsing is the only thing collapsing
Only a fool would take immigration advice from a tea-sipping limey.
He is a crazy person
It depends on the population I guess.
America has still a lot of leeway, even if phosphorous would break away soon you are crafty enough and have enough free space to employ people in gardens or other forms of high tech agriculture to migitate food security while your population seems rather stable and will be served with the fossil reserves and other ways you can still expand on in the future.
The middle east has quadrupled its population since the 50s but still does agriculture as if it were the 70s while sucking up their groundwater and only recently having been introduced to basic enviromentalist policies to restore overgrazed land.
It seems less certain for them.
China will also be interesting, they loose a lot of valuable agrarable land due to soil poisoning and desertification, but they grow richer and might buy up a lot of stuff from abroad for a transistionary period where they look into whatever ways to make more of less.
India also seems.. like a challenge.
Every day we stray further away from God.
Yes but not a stupid person.
I do not believe its necessary for 90% of the population to life in medieval shacks, fed with insects and be ruled over by a minimalist high tech elite that mostly exists to keep them like that-but linkola is not a stupid man and id expect some insights or good ideas to be found between the layers of crazy.
In a way he loves finland as an ecoregion and would like to shoo out immigrants.
With the newest anti-abortion laws you have basically ensured increase of rape/crack babies that will be brought up in extreme poverty mostly by bitter single moms. Oh, and they will mostly be black.
Have fun with your cities turning jungles that rival shittiest African states. Seriously you have abortion clinics doing more to kill off niggers than your cops and drugs combined, then your Whitey Supremo Trumpolino goes and shuts it off and you praise him for it? What is your major malfunction son?
I'm making a thesis on Malthusian trap, you have a source on this graph? If it is reputable I could use it.
Btw yes I'm researching it with my professor and sub saharian africa is already in the trap, the only thing keeping them afloat is the tremendous amount of foreign aid, it won't be long before the ride ends.
International reserves of rare materials such as oil, zinc, litium and much more are rapidly going to zero. Buying a stick of ram nowadays costs 3 times what it was 5 years ago because the zinc used to make it is extremely rare.
The collapse is inevitable, and once it happens many of our problems are solved, what we do until then determines our future.
Me personally, I've bought one 1sq km piece of land attached to my house since I already live in the middle of the forest, gun lycence is on its way, using permaculture to cultivate the land.
I'm going to take my degree and accumulate as much wealth possible to reinvest in my property and eventual family, trying to not become a wagecuck in the meanwhile.
lol theres niggers everywhere and im stocked up with enough munitions to survive a 10 year long civil war why the fuck would i be scared i could use some live action target practice anyway
Me personally, I've bought one 1sq km piece of land attached to my house since I already live in the middle of the forest
sounds comfy. now to razor wire the bitch
to be fair a lot of nogs will just use a clothhook.
With their natural camouflage & cowardice they won't take you head on, they will sneak up on you during the dark while you sleep brugh.
Don't think they have enough intelligence to use such advanced tools. Hell, I imagine most of them don't even realize their pregnant before they shit a baby into the toilet.
its a good thing i dont go to bed until 6 AM then
Disagree, to an extent.
Russia lacks the firepower to overpower all of Europe and hold all of Europe. Russia, however doesn't want to control all of Europe.
Russia could, if the order was given take out the Baltic states and Ukraine by the end of the month, Moldova would fall into place in the quickness.
They'd need a breather and be able to reorganize themselves and they decapitate leadership and "journalism" in these states and stake both political and social control.
The next toughest group of people they'd go after are the Poles and Slovakians -- the Slovakians would fall fairly quickly the Poles would take more time but would ultimately collapse as well.
More than that -- they neither need nor want. Due to four generations of brainwashing the Germans are cucked beyond redemption.
If you go to India you can clearly see how absolutely fucked they are without the British telling them what to do. The only decent things in India are because of the British.
China can at least copy stuff better than indians and isn't as superficial fraudulent.
> you have a source on this graph
Google Limits to Growth or Club of Rome
> I'm making a thesis on Malthusian trap,
wtf, Limits to Growth is basic canon on the subject
>sounds comfy. now to razor wire the bitch
As seen from my window, pretty comfy, could be better, could be worse, cannot really complain as long as I'm not a city cuck dweller. Unfortunately land in europe costs quite a lot
Russia has a problem: its western land border is too long. Shortening it requires re-absorbing Baltic countries, Belarus and half of Ukraine.
They have neither the economic nor logistical capacity to conduct wars of aggression. They literally do not have the means to support attacking armies. Their tanks could conceivable make it to Germany, and then lack of supplies means they lose those armies.
Malthusian trap is more adapt, especially considering I'm doing the paper on the relation of it with the current migration phenomenon. It is straight up theory from malthus applied in nowadays africa. It's not really focused on the future of resources although I'll write about it as well.
Read these
>take out the Baltic states and Ukraine
>taking useless land
why?
>What is your major malfunction son?
Americans hate niggers so much that they don't want less nigs. They want more of them, and they want them all over the US for the sole purpose of making them suffer.
They literally bought them from Africa just so they could hurt them. Now they prevent abortion to keep supplies high and maximize their suffering. That was also the reason they aboloshed segregation.
>Their immigration is all Asian and Indian though
Even worse
Sure once the U.S. collapses into itself the financial blow-back will encompass the globe overnight. Russia will need to distract its population from their own poverty. Gobbling up the Baltic states, Ukraine, Belarus and Moldova in the space of a week or two would certainly do it.
The Poles would know whats coming and my experience with you guys would be this:
Poles in Poland A would be packing their shit and heading west ASAP, Poles in Poland B would be arming themselves.
Germany as well as the rest of Multi-kulti Europe will dissolve into a ethnic-based series of mini-civil wars which will be predominately urban vs rural and domestic population vs arabs and negros.
Something to bear in mind in Western Europe is that the domestic population will for the most part self-segregate and decide its time for kebab and chimpanzee to leave. The whites will be fighting the negros and the arabs while the negros will be fighting the whites and the arabs and the arabs will be fighting the whites and the negros.
Larger urban "multicultural" areas will be a shit show.
If you are in Eastern Europe and get gobbled up and aren't part of the political or financial status-quo -- you'll be the luckiest of all.
Are you already far enough into it to know whether the trouble will become presing in the 30s or 50s?
That theory is absolutely fucking retarded, yet looking at the whole picture it's about the only one that makes sense at this point.
>live under putin regime
>luckiest
You must be american.
Its extremely fertile and if they modernize their agriculture they could make great profits by selling to asia.
I think you fail to appreciate how bad things are going to get here.
Africa and India, due to their tropical climates, are actually surprisingly self-sufficient with their food supply, though mostly because most of the population is employed subsistence farming rather than for export, despite their large populations. They refuse or are unable to adopt modern industrial farming techniques so they can't produce a massive surplus that they could potentially export, but they do produce enough to survive off, and will likely continue to do so as the African population expands. One reason they have so many children is because the children can provide labour for farming instead of a tractor or even animal for plowing. When they no longer produce enough food for the child to be seen as helping with farming but just consuming too much of the food, they will have less kids or the children will just die for illness and malnourishment. A self-correcting problem. They will never produce enough food to be a heatlhy weight, but they will produce the bare minimum to survive, and that's all that matters in Africa and India, and it's how they've always lived. India's birth rate is also starting to drop anyway and will be below replacement levels soon due to increasing modernisation.
China has multiple factors that will allow them to survive any collapse:
- Low birth rate and that is lowering further to Japan + S. Korean levels means the population will reduce after the elderly population dies off, so less impact of food resources
- Secure food imports from Southeast Asia and buying land in Australia, NZ, Africa and America for food and space
- Mass adoption of modern agriculture techniques from the West to improve efficency of their own food production and their food import sources in SE Asia (Vietnam, Myanmar, Laos, Cambodia)
- Chinese are used to adapting to periods of food scarcity from a history of famines, so if the food sources drop, they will adapt quickly by eating less or eating alternative food sources (bugs, dogs, plants etc.)
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I attach my bibliography related to resource scarcity.
>15.Nigel W. Arnell (1999), Climate change and global water resources - pdfs.semanticscholar.org
>16.Joseph Alcamo, Martina Florke & Michael Marker (2010), Future long-term changes in global water resources driven by socio-economic and climatic changes -tandfonline.com
>17.Alexander V. Balatsky, Galina I. Balatsky & Stanislav S. Borysov (2015), Resource Demand Growth and Sustainability Due to Increased World Consumption - mdpi.com
>18.Stephen G.Warren (2015), Can Human Populations be Stabilized? - agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com
>19.United Nations Department of Economic and Social Affairs - Technical Paper (2011), Seven Billion and Growing: The role of population policy in achieving sustainability - un.org
>20.Stormy-Annika Mildner, Solveig Richter & Gitta Lauster (2011), Resource Scarcity - A Global Security Threat? -
swp-berlin.org
21. Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations (FAO) (2009), How to Feed the World in 2050? - fao.org
22.Jonathan M.Harris (2013), Population, Resources, and Energy in the Global Economy: A Vindication of Herman Daly’s Vision -
ase.tufts.edu
Basically primary resources are going to get less available, 50% of spain is predicted to desertificate by 2050, agriculture makes the land less and less fertile, a collapse was predicted by malthus himself by 1970, tec avoided it but not forever.
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On top of that the world population is growing and unevitably it food scarcity will become majour issue since sources of water are going out. Also, rare metals and resources are depleting as well, oil, zinc, copper, litium ecc fuel modern economic growth but they will be possible to mice anymore in just a couple of years. Even if we switch towards different sources for the same components, readjusting the supply chain would be incredibly expensive and it would still give a catastrophic blow to modern economy and globalization.
Most likely we will live an incredible crysis, the impossibility for globalized countries to substain their own population, famine, and an inversion of fortune between city life and rural life. We are already headed towards there and there is no real stopping this process, it's gonna happen before or later, it's basically the malthusian trapim
We are only one pogrom away from stability. Liquidate every leftist and life signs be fine and dandy. They are so vitriolic and idyllic that they cannot keep their mouths shut. They will give themselves away until there are none left and then the golden age can begin.
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- Mass adoption of GMO and lab grown food from Western technology
- Every possible energy source will be utilised to maintain their current level of society they have built with no opposition from corporate interests or political pressure groups due to Communist rule (solar, wind, hydro, nuclear, electrification of transport and industry, and secure oil and gas imports from Iran + Russia, which is why they refuse to bend to pressure on those countries, they need their oil and gas and will never surrender on it from US pressure, which the US is now realising and is backing off)
Europe's population will begin to drop as the Boomers die off (even with immigration) as is already happening in Eastern Europe, which requires less food and resources. Oil and gas will be constantly available from Russia and potentially Iran, though at a political price. Europe is one of the most secure areas in the world for food and agriculture and the most advanced in agriculture technology, and is a net exporter to the rest of the world. Europe also leads the way in alternative energy, nuclear energy is still prominent in France and is being expanded in the rest of Europe outside Germany. Europeans also don't drive much, which requires less gasoline, and rely off public transport, which is increasingly become electrified. Industry is also becoming largely electrified. Electricity requires either oil or coal, both of which are available to Europe for at least the rest of the century.
thanks.
Will look into it.
>Spain
rather upsetting as it wouldnt have to that way.
Theoretically the land could surely be slowly reforested as foliaged areas that span from the coast to the inland function as a moisturing bridge that wettens the land by itself.
The loss of agricultural land could be migitated with dutch greenhouse tech maybe that draws its water from the reforested areas and cisterns.
But hey lets spend that money on niggers instead.
reforestation on formerly overstressed agricultural must not always mean economically useless wilderness, medieval culturescapes groomed oakforests to be also for grazing and pig farming. That can surely be optimized further with modern insight.
America will survive energy wise as they are completely self-sufficient with shale and fracking and their agriculture and GMO technology will ensure they will always be fed, though potentially at the price of obesity due to all the shit they put in the food to maintain such high output, which also allows them to export their food. If the oil price drops due to political reasons, this could cause issues with the shale oil supply, but that would only really impact the transportation industry and automobile usage due to gas prices. This would discourage Americans from driving long distances and create a more "local" mentality. It may encourage investment into public transport in the major metropolitan areas, but knowing the typical American mindset, they would rather stay in their suburb or town and focus on being self-sufficient if they can't travel, rather than moving to a "diverse" city to take advantage of the public transport and available jobs. They would likely create their own businesses to provide jobs in their local area, though this would likely require massive dependence on the banks and loans to sustain their local communities, especially if they are not producing enough profit to economically justify their business. Government assistance may also increase, either through subsidised loans, grants, investment or flat out welfare.
Aviation would also be affected and volatile due to reliance on shale, resulting in more expensive ticket prices, but this would mostly just discourage vacations abroad to Europe and Mexico. Travel inside the US + Canada would be increasingly via buses like Greyhound or trains like Amtrak, but mostly to major destinations and cities. This will further encourage an isolationist mentality among Americans (even disregarding strict immigration and a border wall with Mexico), which is the direction the US is following anyway.
>Indias birthrate is declining
Sure, but not as fast as that they wont have a greater population then the chinese in the coming 50s, which seems to be a rather critical time to have so many people.
Also pakistan seems to be an issue.
South America will mostly follow the same trajectory as North America, either relying on imported shale from North America, or oil from Venezuela. Their populations will begin to drop in a few decades due to lowering birth rates and developed agriculture farming from the US and Brazil after the Amazon has been deforested will keep the continent fed enough to survive.
The last major area of interest is the Middle East, which will likely face the greatest challenges ahead. They have the birth rates of Africa, but without the agricultural self-sufficiency due to their desert climate. Africa will not produce enough food to export to them, and Europe may be able to produce enough to survive themselves and export enough food to them as well the food supplies may be stressed as they will have to export to Africa + Asia also. Decreasing oil and gas reserves outside Iran also means less energy self-sufficiency. Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Europe and even Iran may expand their influence into these countries to take advantage of the labour pool, though that will be less necessary due to automation, so there will be a massive excess youth population with no purpose, so those developed countries may just wall themselves off from the poorer Islamic countries, leaving them to fend for themselves.
If the excess population isn't allowed to leave for better opportunities with more resources, then they will likely start attacking each other, so expect more conflict to come from that region until the fertility rate finally starts to reduce or the death rate simply exceed the birth rate so the population starts to drop. If the Middle Eastern population can't move into developed countries, you may see them attack other poorer countries in the region creating a kind of Middle East wide war between nations and groups, potentially also expanding into Africa and India. The only fate for the Middle East is to eventually reduce the population back to how it used to be, suitable for a desert climate. This process may take decades, and will likely create some very interesting developments in the Middle East as it goes through this period of transition. Definitely the place to watch in the future.
Spain will never be capable of such an implant, on the large scale moreover. The point is that we should abandon agriculture and start to use alternative techniques like permaculture. In alternative, only a small portion of land should be used in those aggressive ways, in a rotation cycle. Even if all of this happen though, the ouput would still be severely reduced leading to food cryses.
Spain situation is also exacerbated by their lack of forests thanks to thousands of years of deforestation, and global warming that is making the terrain erode and evaporate of moisture even more. Italy is at the same latitude but it's not at desertification risk, we still have plenty of forests.
America is totally self sufficient but at a huge cost. Look up world data bank the total output of food in the US has been going constantly down for decades, technology can do only enough to a certain point. On the long run, modern agriculture will always reduce food consumption since it impacts the fertility of the soil, we can play catch up with new techniques as much as we want but it's just postponing the problem not solving it and it's going to get to us before or later.
Regarding transportation, it will not be impossible, but it will be much more expensive, and the benefits of moving will be less and less, leading to the reshoring process, the opposite of globalization. This is just my two cents with the data I've collected