Why haven't you taken the red pill? It's time to reject all collectivist ideologies

Individualism leads to degeneracy.

>2016+2
>not being a Feudalist
Ishygddt

Fpbp. War and ideological struggle is a team sport.

You know what individualism is? It's breaking the phalanx. People who break the phalanx deserve no pity when they get killed. They did it to themselves. Fuck individualists

collectivism always wins.

lolbertarians just prefer the McGang instead of a state

Capitalism is individualism

4u

This image demonstrates perfectly the individualistic delusion of grandeur where they think that they as individuals have the power to slay a 5-headed dragon the size of mansion.

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Every time you cut off one of the Hydra's heads, two more grow back--an expression of the hopelessness of such a struggle

why wouldn't an individualist stick with other individualists?
is it contrarianism or parasitism?

This. Fighting that thing irl would take group tactics, whether we're talking a phalanx or a crew-served balista.

Individualists sticking with other individualists?

You mean forming a collective, you pastafag

Yea, i don't get this image. That soldier is about to get fucked.

Stake it down and burn it.

Lauren rose is far to ugly to ever land a chad

ALL THAT MATTERS IS THE INDIVIDUAL!

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JEW FUCK OFF. I’m sick as shit of seeing these stupid anti-Jow Forums Juden Peterstein threads. Individualism is exactly what led us here, you retard. Of course, for Jews, it’s ‘socialism’ for us, ‘individualism’ for the rest of us.

FUCK YOU

>It's time to reject all collectivist ideologies.
What about a cultural collective?

>HHH
So you do need some kind of group identity still? Why not codify some aspects of it into your government?

>Muh individualism

Yes goy, forsake the legacy of your forefathers, play vidya and relax, don't mind about people mass immigrating into your country who have no intention to become (((individuals))) but who have a strong collective identity in religion, their ethnic/language group and who want to turn your country into their own image.

I'm not buying it, Shlomo.

Fuck off divide-and-conquer kike.

LOOK AT ME!

I'm a unique and strong individual!!! My life is PURRfect.

>the guy in the picture actually offed with himself.

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Your image is a perfect analogy for how hopeless abject individualism actually is.

I think I'll just choose the one that's most likely to result in getting niggers out of my country.

People who honesty believe this should be deported in a desert

For society. Feminism, homosexuality, etc.

Except that in all classic stories, the Dragon isn't portrayed as the winner. Ever wonder why? The odds are perpetually stacked against the individual, and if he remains true to his essence, he triumphs. You can metaphorize that with humanity's sheer existence, compared with the vast emptiness of space, or how civilization arose from the pitiless and overwhelmingly aggressive natural conditions.
This is the most retarded anti-individualism argument I see. Individualism does NOT mean "you must be alone at all times against every opponent and take help from no one," you absolute buffoon. Individuals can fight in tandem against collectivism for the single purpose of protecting their individuality. Being an individual doesn't mean seceding from the outside world at all costs.

Also, it has proven itself to be more productive to stop others from collectivizing than waiting until they do and then collectivizing against them. Anyone with a healthy mind wants to avoid the bloodshed that would come from collectivism. Christ.

Individualism is literally a jewish invention swallowed by retarded boomers.
No civilization in history has ever been "individualist". is absolutely right.

Another garbage post from another garbage German

It seems like they forgot who won the war.

Civilization is literally collectivism you fucking retard.
>Also, it has proven itself to be more productive to stop others from collectivizing than waiting until they do and then collectivizing against them.
THIS IS LITERALLY WHAT YOUR COLLECTIVE ENEMIES HAVE DONE TO YOU. You are not stopping anyone from 'collectivizing', you are just disarming yourself.

>including nationalism when NATIONAL socialism and communism are already there
Isn't this a tad weird? Shouldn't nationalism be higher up in the tree since those ideologies both spawn from it/are heavily influenced by it?

Daily reminder that The Cult of Personality is a cult acting out there when everyone is out there

Collectivism isn’t the same thing as free assembly, you fucking retard.

You conflate collectivism with being in a group of any sort, and you seem to think that the only way to stop people from collectivizing against you is killing them. You're a child.

>Except that in all classic stories, the Dragon isn't portrayed as the winner.
Those stories are meant to inspire people to be their best against any odds. In the gritty, more realistic stories that dragon/hydra kills the lone adventurer every time.

globalism is the most literal incarnation of collectivism

No, if the classic stories were made to be feel-good and inspiring, they surely wouldn't contain all the cruelty and horror that they contain. That archetype exists for a reason, it represents reality - not in detail, of course, dragons don't exist, but they're still very much TRUTH. If the hero is properly established, he defeats the dragon, regardless of its size.

This picture is actually really smart. It shows individualism as something that's great in myth, narrative and imagination. But in reality, if a five headed dragon monsters somhow existed, the poor fuck would just get eaten in an instant.

fpbp

A gang of ferals is no threat to those well trained and ready to put up a fight.

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Enough honorable individualism leads to nationalism you fool because honorable individuals want to be surrounded by other honorable individuals.

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Individualists need to be collectively executed

>You conflate collectivism with being in a group of any sort
Being in a group that wields power on its own behalf is what you retards call 'collectivism'
>think that the only way to stop people from collectivizing against you is killing them
Obviously it isn't, you are still alive yet you have been convinced that you should make yourself as politically weak as possible.

humans are social beings u fucking mentally 12yo retard trapped in body of fat 23 yo fatter retard

That way you can rape kids in peace.

>have fun getting raped individually by collectives of shitskins
Or your sister, alternatively.

fpbp

No, retard, collectivism is the belief that group identity is paramount, over individual identity. You don't even know what you're arguing against, you just hear the word "individualism" and you think of a sole white man fighting against hordes of black warriors by himself, because that's how your child brain operates. Multiple individuals can assemble themselves into a collective without becoming collectivist, simply by not putting the group's identity over their own. Collectivism strives to poison the well of any argument in favor of their own homogenous identity.

Why isn't 'Family' in the list of collectives?

Have some pasta:

The Overman does not simply do whatever he wants--any idiot can obliviously run amok like a blind fool. You cannot overcome is you are in denial about reality. The individual thrives in a thriving society. In our sick societies, the individual is seen as a potential refuge from societal decline--"everything around me if falling apart, but I can maintain myself". The problem is that not matter how strong the individual, if the society dies, he will die with it, because individualism is a lie. If you want to thrive as an individual, be heroic, not a roaming barbarian. No great man ever lived alone in a cabin while the world burned--any coward can do the same.

>So you're saying that if there's a group and you're born into it, it's okay for them to force you to do what they want? What?

What they want? Yes. Whatever they want? No. The socialized person seeks to understand the duties placed upon him. The anti-social person gets indignant at all external impositions, regardless of their purpose or wisdom.

The point is that the liberal recognizes no legitimate limits on personal freedom. The liberal seeks liberation from any and all constrains, be they societal, sexual, physical, or metaphysical. Liberalism is the infinite quest for emancipation from being itself.

You are born into a collective. You don't get to chose certain levels of association. As long as you live within society, you do not get to chose the terms by which society lives with you. Your continuum of your family and culture are pre-determined associations--not voluntary. Defying them is to defy yourself. Individualism is a neurotic delusion like gender dysphoria. It fails to recognize reality that transcends ones subjective impulses. "I'm an individual because I don't FEEL like a member of a group."

Any true individualist needs to go into the mountains an not bother anyone anymore. Everyone else needs to get over themselves, and learn to play with others.

The reality of the situation is any nation that prioritizes the individual and behaves in an overly libertarian fashion, especially an ancap society, is going to get its ass handed to it in a high hat by the first collectivist nation to see an opening.

Apart we are weak, but together we are strong.

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Addendum: individualism isn't to say that there's no purpose in collective units whatsoever, that's a moronic position that doesn't represent individualists. Of course there is a purpose to collective units; in family, nation, war, etc., but that doesn't mean that the collective is the scope you should use to think and interact with the world with.

Checked fpbp /thread

Holy shit that was savage.

Individualism is NOT progress from collectivism. Why is this constantly claimed. The more simple and primitive an animal is, the more likely it is to be individualist and solitary. Collectivist and social animals are usually the higher developed ones. Collectivisim is what build communities, cities and countries and maintains them. An individualist is ALWAYS going to lose against collectivists.

The question isn't individualism vs collectivism. It's how much collectivisim is needed and how much freedom the individual can be given while still maintaining and advancing society.

individualists are your leaders.

you don't have what it takes to lead; to be an individual. so you follow. it's okay, we need followers.

Why would I ever let a collectivist tell me what "true individualism" is about, let alone one that characterizes it as hedonistic anti-social behavior. That's a strawman.

>Leaders
>Followers
>Individualism

Doesn't sound like individualism if you need a team to do things. Sounds like you need like-minded people, with shared goals, and people mentored in the skills necessary to obtain those goals.

That is collectivism. You don't build a barn by yourself - it takes teamwork. Leaders are required for direction, but nobody follows if they don't believe that it will serve their own interests as well.

>you're an individualist? haha so i guess you do everything by yourself lol!
herd-oriented collecticuck no. 2948859.

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family is not a political ideology.
an individual can build a family, build a community. point is not to be coerced into any political collective -- like nation, race or class -- as a basis for a state.

Your family is the state. That's kind of the point of Nationalism, and it's even more pointed in Ethno-Nationalism. Now, whenever that system is subverted to attack you, and kick you out of your own goddamn family for some stupid reason, or worse - your own family steals from you - that is the point when you can disown the Nation that was built around you.

You cannot exist without some form of social agreement, anarcho-capitalist. Even if you are exchanging chickens for Bitcoins, those coins have to be accepted by others in your group. The people you deal with have to value the same things in a similar manner. Otherwise, you are up shit creek without a paddle. Can't have trade if everyone thinks it is in their best interest to stab you in the back.

>an individual can build a family
t. mushroom

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this

Collectivism is running off a cliff because everyone else is doing it

Hail Hydra!

fpbp

>Collectivism iz peeple bein togeda HURR DURR
>Individualism iz being alone OOGA BOOGA
Holy fuck the absolute state of nu-pol

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