>image of a man who matches descriptions of Jesus
>has wounds like those described in the Bible but not like those in medieval art
>image was placed on the shroud by a means that hasn't been reproduced so far
>shroud has pollen found only on Jerusalem
How in God's name can people NOT be Christians when the shroud exists?
because of jew fuckery
Because the (((carbon dating))) of the material was from Middle Ages
>matches descriptions of Jesus
ummm no sweety
1 Corinthians 11:14
Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?
>worshipping jewsus
Lots of people were crucified back then, not only jesus. Also Jesus may very well have existed but may have just been very knowledgeable of herbs and stuff so people thought it was wonders..
That test proves nothing.
>catholic church refuses to date the artifact
>refuses to let nonreligious professionals examine the artifact
>locks it away in a vault
Yep, you sure got us mate. I'm far from atheist but at least try and convince the others with something substantial.
Depends what people considered long and short hair during those times, I dont know, maybe with long hair they mean really long like all the way onto your back, and the hair Jesus has on the shroud was not considered to be long hair.
>what is samson
Read this and thank me later
>matches descriptions of Jesus
lel
all the imagery of Jesus since forever is inspired by imagery of Zeus
>it could have been anyone
People are usually not Christian because of morals. But that's changing with cherrypicking verses out of context to suit your own ends.
Doesn't know what Vatican 2 is
Your God is a Jew and you have betrayed the holy religions of Mother Europe. You literally teach your kids Jewish fables, Jewish stories, your heroes are Jewish warriors, prophets, your ideal woman a Jewish maidan. Pathetic
Except the date of origin.
>>image of a man who matches descriptions of Jesus
And just how many men DO match those "descriptions"?
In fact why don't you post the "descriptions"? Include DNA and fingerprints if you like.
cringe.
Samson & Gert
cringe.
Nice argument
Europe was built on Christianity you pagan faggot
Yeah that turned out great for Rome.
*Breathes in* HAHAHAHAHAHA
Because they even lie about believing in Scientism. Their true religion is their opinion. They make a false god of it and worship it.
Well, they are running out of time !
Yes, the parts used to cover the holes after it got burnt
Christianity didn't cause the fall of Rome. Rome suffered many problems which led to its downfall, but Christianity didn't cause it. Many barbarian tribes outside the Empire became Christianised
To be fair, I would be pretty protective of my shit if this is considered a restoration of Jesus.
It did. Overextension and nomadic migrations didn't, though.
Because that test was done IIRC on the on the repaired section. So forgot that and update your facts.
usatoday.com
Bible in 24 hours - Crash Course - R.I.P. Chuck Missler
>5000 people
>Feeds them a loaf of bread laced with his 11 secret herbs and spices and they magically eat it up.
>Literally dies on the cross
>Comes back to life thanks to his 11 secret herbs
You are retarded.
this crap has already been debunked. welcome to 10 years ago.
you state a rather interesting theory which i've read about in the "Enzyklopädie der psychoaktiven Pflanzen" from Dr. Christian Rätsch. He states that Jesus could very well have been an expert in the use of fly agaric. He states that he's found evidence of a ritual practice which includes the consumption of fly agaric (the body of jesus so to say) and after that the drinking of wine (jesus' blood). Could be or could not be, but the thought is interesting.
>rationalwiki
Holy shit the onions is just emanating from this guy perkele
>image looks like a 60 year old man- not 32.
If Jesus is real, why is he letting Christianity dissapear? How will the end times come if muslims grow stronger while Christians turn the other cheek and get slaughtered without a fight?
Jesus Christ was black, this is fake and they just lied about every test. there were no white people in that part of the world back then, history is lies.
that'll be hilarious. christ comes back but there are only muslim's and they throw him off of a roof for being a faggot.
>11 secret herbs and spices
thanks for the lulz based strayan
of their sample. allegedly.
if you fall for such an obvious trick, you have great faith, indeed! Faith to your wicked father, Satan!
Stay assbalsted you pagan loser
So? Is a miracle! This proves its authenthicity.
Nah, just don't need a picture of Jacque de Molay's toasty corpse as some kind of idol. There are about four True Crosses out there thanks to charlatans. Certainly don't need trinkets to supplement my faith.
yeah but retarded babies and shit happen so... eh
The shroud guy is really the Antichrist figure Apollo/Apollyon promoted by the Vatican .
The Vatican is the real beast, all this redpill, anti "Jew" stuff is controlled op programming . All the atheists and leftists are purposely crappy and disgusting to turn former Atheists to CATHOLICISM while hiding the actual truth of the Bible and persecuting actual Reformed Christians .
>ask god to prove he exists
>draws faces on my toast and on walls just for me to personally appreciate
I'm not even a Christian and this is undeniable.
The beast is zionism. Jews are Gog. 616 (the real number) stands for 6 million 6 * 10 ^ 6
Come on. This isn’t hard to figure out. I’m an American and even I was able to get it.
I was never religious until I started looking into satanic elites and it makes me think they might be onto something, so if that's real, why wouldn't god be real?
No scientists has been able to explain how the image was formed or been able to recreate it in a laboratory. It is the most studied artifact in the world. The more it is studied the more question arise. Shroud.com is a great resource for those who care to see how compelling the evidence is for this being the actual burial cloth of Jesus.
because the image is a negative. it makes Jesus' hair white
The religious character of all our enemies (be they Jewish, Satanistic, Islamic or Gnostic) and how they have much more enmity towards Christianity than to each other is a veritable sign. Atheism and meme religions are basically spiritual defanging.
This.
Fuck off christcuck. Go worship your jew on a stick somewhere else.
It's a proven forgery.
Cool.
But I have faith in my holy lord, and I will still believe in him.
I’ll only kneel before Christ when he magically appears and kills my Holy figure and that Argentina Windbag
It's not
Why are you all allowing others to have authority over how you think and experience reality?
It's so saddening to see people cling to something as retarded as pollen on a random old shroud to justify their fairy tales.
The vast majority of content in both the old and new testaments is based on pre existing folk lore and cultic practices that were mistranslated and taken literally. This includes the notion that Jesus was even real.
Go read "The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross" and shed this parasitic ideology and way of thinking.
>>image was placed on the shroud by a means that hasn't been reproduced so far
one theory:
the image was imprinted to shroud at the exact time when life returned to his body and created a light "flash" which kind of makes it the first photograph ever created, and it's a selfie of the most important event for people's souls
based
He isn't letting it disappear; His people are turning away from Him.
The shroud doesn't justify anything.
Pic related blows this inane shroud trash out of the water
>image of a man who matches descriptions of Jesus
Jesus was a black man.
God is so strict about idolatry and imagery that he purposely doesn't give us a description of Christ, but then he leaves this shroud on the earth? It's suspicious.
you're theologically illiterate
literally joe rogan tier
Then it isn't sufficient evidence to prove the existence of Jesus and by extension God.
What's the point you're attempting to make?
even if it's 500 years old how was the image imprinted into the cloth?
Thank you. I have been researching the shroud for years. This is a great run down of the current evidence.
I dont know much about the evidence to support this but the Bible and the life of Jesus are things that have lots of interpretation so it's not like this instantly proves mainstream Christianity
jesus is an archetype of jupiter horus ya morons.
your zombie born of a virgin wasnt real
deal with it
It has yet to be explained. The leading theory is a flash of radiation. There is nothing else like it in the world.
It has not been proven a forgery. All evidence points to it being authentic.
Rome lasted until the 15th century.
desu even if he existed people might not be christian because mohammed existed and you're not a muslim.
(You)
>the Bible is reliable evidence for the existence of the supernatural
Ignoring how flawed and unstable your position is, in what ways are my sentiments Joe Rogan tier? I watch/listen to him frequently enough and am aware of his meme status on most boards.
Do you reject the fungus/mushroom worship idea by virtue of it being odd or that you have no understanding of it to begin with?
>Jesus was the only person with long hair, beard, and mustache!
That Christianity is not founded on an image on a piece of cloth.
Can you post one that phonefags can read
If any of you want to seriously see some serious investigation on the shroud, check this. The way the image was marked is quite supernatural and nobody was able to be reproduce it.
>Catholic Rin.
Unf
Use clover app
The image on the shroud is an image of a man who was tortured and crucified in the exact same way as was described in the New Testament. The crown of thorns was not Roman practice. The spear wound in the side was not Roman practice.
You're correct it's founded on the mythos of an ancient fertility cult.
Wanna know how I 100% know it's not Jesus? He has long hair.
Samson was a nazirite. That's different.
I can read just fine w/zoom on Omnichan
Read noah's ark , in the end there was just one guy with his family
bible does mention he prefers short hair, that's a solid point.
to add. the image reveal multiple overlapping expositions, as if the body moved during the process that made the image. It also emanated FROM within the body and that is what caused it to contain depth information on BOTH front and back. It's pretty mind boggling.
That was a tale the Jews took from the Akkadians.
watch this
It's fake.
that hair appears to be straight
jesus was a brown man
>nobody was able to be reproduce it
This is literally the first thing they did. Of course a +billion catholics are going to collectively defend themselves from a debunking by claiming ignorance.
*rips bong* wat if flat earth is real and the earth is the ark and the mega ice wall is the flood
It doesn't need to be proven. You don't even need to believe everything the Bible says, you only need to have faith.