why don't Proud Boys / Patriot Prayer / other right wing groups start infiltrating antifa and then turning on them in the middle of fights?
send in people disguised as antifa (other antifa will not be able to tell), group together, then turn on antifa mid-fight
can also have infiltrators who never blow their cover but just wander around recording sound and video discreetly
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>inb4 what if the infiltrators accidentally attack each other
you can all rip your masks off when it comes time to attack, prompted by a signal from someone on the other side (blowing a whistle or something)
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are you from Patriot Prayer? what do you think of this tactic?
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Friendly fire
obviously you don't get close or engage friendlies, you stay just behind the antifa front lines
if a friendly approaches you just (pretend to) cower and run back as many antifa already do this, then continue to wait for the moment to blow your cover
Yes and you can start chanting some embarrassing shit or bring signs.
how about they instead of doing dumb shit like op said , they bring knives an legal permit guns.
you just have to fit in convincingly for long enough to be ready for the right moment
because that's retarded and they'd obviously just get beaten up surrounded by people they're suddenly turning on
what you'd really want to do is record them planning violent crimes and then get them arrested, most of the more serious ones are probably dipshits already on parole anyway
This could work, seeing how a gay faggot from Europe infiltrated a bunch of our rallies and marches all over america and Europe then gave out some of their identities, it's time we fight back.
>what you'd really want to do is record them planning violent crimes and then get them arrested,
this is a good idea too
>because that's retarded and they'd obviously just get beaten up surrounded by people they're suddenly turning on
1. what if they turn on antifa's front lines, so they have lots of friendly backup to charge in at the same time?
2. how is antifa going to easily and quickly tell who is friendly or foe when everyone is in a black blob wearing masks?
I always thought the best larpfor these was to get a front line of your biggest guys in pads of some kind,then they would go on a echelon charge and keep running while the guys behind were on cleanup duty for the antifa guys on the ground. Guys behind the front line could blast airhorns as a harkon back to the Jericho trumpets from Germany in WW2
yeah. just be the biggest pussy faggot and run away prancing. That would be great ammo for us and it will demoralize them
> why doesn't proud boys / patriot prayer stand on the dumb side of the line and get pepper-balled by DHS like antifags?
Hard question to answer user.
I didn't even think about this but you're right, having people running back scared would instill more fear in the real antifa and demoralize them from attacking further
but importantly it would prevent you from engaging friendlies, who won't be able to tell you're friendly till you blow your cover
also the idea of getting huge guys at the front to lock arms and bulldoze over their lines with people in the back to deal with the antifa on the ground is great, actually you could get the clean up crew to rip their masks off and get an HD photo of their face, that would be the most strategically valuable thing to do
you would have guys running around, jumping on the downed antifa and pulling their masks off while someone else is snapping pics
no user you stand behind their front line not on their front line, this keeps you from engaging friendlies, uses the real antifa front line as a shield for any projectiles from police, and allows you to sandwich the real antifa front line while your friendlies are doing a frontal charge
exactly. Those fags would leave their "comrades" behind so fast if they were being chased by an organized charge. Everyone left behind becomes a prisoner of the of /ourguys/ and gets subjected to photos and beatdown for propaganda videos
This is the most underage idea I've ever heard. It's almost like you think antifa retards are a formidable opponent. Not surprised though, this is Jow Forumsddit, the right-wing equivalent of antifags.
if you have the manpower, why not do a citizen's arrest on every antifa trapped behind your charging line?
don't assault them but handcuff them with zip ties (like police do), rip their mask off and get several good photos of their face and profile
also take pics of any illegal weapons they were carrying and remove them, make sure to make the info very public and submit it to police; you could also hand over the arrested antifa to police afterwards
Backstabbing is Jewish, leftist and dishonorable. Face Antifa head on instead of sinking to their level and being a cheap slimy twat
>It's almost like you think antifa retards are a formidable opponent
I don't but it would help sow fear and paranoia in their ranks to know that anybody beside them could be an enemy disguised in their uniform
hello "fellow right winger", how many other effective and legal tactics do you want to discourage us from using?
I'm not a good actor. Could you pretend to be gay for that long?
when you're wearing a full on LARPing uniform like they do, it will be impossible to even read your facial expressions
just stay behind but close to their front lines and wait for your side to charge - if a friendly tries to engage you run back in "fear" and keep waiting
Any political activist group already has that fear and deals with it regularly. You'd be doing nothing new or original. Just look at the absolute state of this board right now, you can't have a simple discussion or debate without dozens of retards unironically believing "le jews xD" are pushing a narrative of BLACKED porn and using onions products as a means of accomplishing it. This is the most paranoid group of idiots on the internet. Unfortunately, the retards on the left have a little more self-awareness and haven't tangled themselves up in a web of fucktarded conspiracy theories, so they are a little more on point when it comes to recognize trolls. People on Jow Forumsddit don't have that ability and is the reason why someone can rake up replies simply by saying "jews are okay".
>Any political activist group already has that fear and deals with it regularly. You'd be doing nothing new or original.
Explain to me how anybody would be able to tell if part of this crowd was enemies disguised in their uniform waiting to strike. They're completely anonymous, it's a masked black blob with no uniformity other than the color black (so just wear all black clothes).
How?
Oh, so you're saying that when you see them gathering, just put on some black clothers and join? I thought those retards had secret squirrel meetings and shit. If I was them I'd be pretty suspicious of someone just walking up to me
>Oh, so you're saying that when you see them gathering, just put on some black clothers and join?
yes
>I thought those retards had secret squirrel meetings and shit. If I was them I'd be pretty suspicious of someone just walking up to me
when the black blob of faceless people gets big enough, how would anybody be able to tell?
You sound like a jew
Bringing the fear to life though will create a big impact.
It's a thought. Might be nice to wait for one of those fagots to sucker punch someone and then give them instant karma. Just watch, Jow Forums fucking doxxes me from my shoelaces and now everyone thinks I'm an Antifag
Basically your idea is to hide out amongst them and start bashing them with skateboards and bike locks when the time is right. This is why the right is falling apart, it's become more arrogant and petty than the 3rd wave feminist, gender-fluid xemales. If you actually care about your views, get off this site and be productive. Jow Forums has done more to harm than good to conservatives and is too busy enjoying the post-2016 election high to realize it.
People already do infiltrate antifa without trying. It's why antifa activity has gone down. Have you already forgotten how pol was doxxing antifa?
Show your flag before you call anybody else a jew, kike.
Having the body of a lifting man and lacking in onions oder makes any attempt of infiltration futile
>Might be nice to wait for one of those fagots to sucker punch someone and then give them instant karma
yes, you can basically have "insurance policies" waiting on their side so that if anyone tries anything they get stopped, possibly before following through ex. if someone lights an explosive to throw into your side, you could smack it out of their hands (if it's safe to do so and you can escape back to your side after)
not everyone has to blow their cover all at once; if a trickle of people do it (safely), antifa will get fucking terrified when they realize there is an unknown but large number of infiltrators currently in their ranks, this confusion and fear can be used by your side to great effect
Because the Proud Fags are civic nationalist cucks who love based black guys.
>Basically your idea is to hide out amongst them and start bashing them with skateboards and bike locks when the time is right.
fucking retard nobody ever said that
hey maybe we're already in your ranks commie, who knows?
not prolonged infiltration where you have to attend meetings and talk to them, just wearing their all black look with a mask so you blend in and quietly slip into a large group during a protest and move close to their front lines (directly behind them)
That's exactly what you were implying in your original post, at least own up to it. Also, sorry that my legitimate criticisms of this board have triggered you to the point where you strawman everything I say by suggesting I'm some antifa shithead. You're part of the problem.
>That's exactly what you were implying in your original post
strawman, were too smart to do illegal shit like antifa nor do we need to commie scum
>Also, sorry that my legitimate criticisms of this board
of which you made none commie scum
we'll have fun gathering audio and video and doxxing your members don't worry - and you'll have no idea who's doing it as they move about your ranks wearing your retarded uniform
Imagine being this upset that someone was a little critical while describing your safe-space. People like you are the new antifags.
Proud Boys have Principles.
We stand out too much because we aren't skinny twigs we actually work out. We wouldn't be able to disguise ourselves.
In order to fit in. You need to have tooth picks for arms. The enemies of antifa are mostly thicc boys. Almost impossible to blend in
Because one you go double agent and betray someone your IRL name gets out as a Judas and your are forever shitlisted from the group.
Also people wandering around recording video are called trackers in the Jow Forums world its an easy way for college kids to earn money
do those include "not using effective and legal tactics against domestic terrorists who are trying to take away your rights"?
the blobby black hoodies that antifa wear can hide your body type extremely well
Think most people here would fit in just fine.
The real question is why no one ever disrupts meetings by those on the left. They organize openly without any opposition, so it wouldn't be very hard.
>Because one you go double agent and betray someone your IRL name gets out as a Judas and your are forever shitlisted from the group.
who the fuck cares? youre not giving them your name anyway youre just wearing their dumbass black uniform and slipping into their group during a protest
you mean like this?
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No, I mean going disrupting meetings of communists and anarchists when their not in antifa uniform.
Why go to all the effort of infiltrating just for the chance of maybe hitting a couple of people on the back of the head? Sounds pretty stupid to me desu. Why even fight them when you can spend months laying traps.
Infiltration is something well worth exploring. We could dox large amounts of people before any event even starts. Subversion as the kikes have shown us, is super effective.
I meant just showing up in the uniform and slipping in (not long term infiltration).
But I agree with you about the longer term infiltration, being a double agent and collecting tons of personal info and criminal evidence. This should be done a lot more often.
I got a better idea why not wait until the left have one of there own protest and counter protest them like they have done to the Right.
You could set them up for felony charges.
or directly protest antifa meetings (they publicly announce them so it would be easy)
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Because the police would hammer any right winger who disturbed the precious police comrads called antifaa.
Scarsdale, oudrguys in Charlottesville, very time the police and courts crucify us , to help the precious leftist activists
Same as in England comrade, the courts always protect their leftist allies, crucify any right winger.
Their are no felony charges ever, for a precious antifaa activist
You'd be able to give it to the prosecutor on a plate. Names adresses text messages film etc.
When you make it super easy for them, they might actually do their job, not all of them are cunts.
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No. Wrong. Jow Forums did that with Eric clantonn the bike lock professor. The judge just makes private jokes with antifaa activist clantonn, and delays the case for eternity, clantonn is free, he fears no justice ever, while his Zionist/left judges rule the courts.
He was caught committing violent felonies, on film, the judge does not care, the judge only protects his left wing comrade clantonn.
If you or me got a parking ticket, the judge would crucify us, no mercy because we are right wing
demoralizing shill detected
Clanton's unmasking was a massive victory for the right and swayed a lot of people to distrust leftism festering on campuses
false flag a failed bombing. blow up a bomb in their lines while making it seem like an attempt to kill the other side.
hello FBI
Clantonn is free as a bird, his only 'punishment' is he has to have a friendly banter with a left wing judge every couple months, until his charges are dropped, as all charges are always dropped for the precious antifaa activists.
Jail is for right wingers and other saps with no representation in government. Scarsellaaae is still rotting in jail, no mercy for right wingers in court system controlled by (((them)))
>free as a bird
>despised face of left wing terrorism unwelcome in society
pick one commie faggot
I find it interesting that both the AntiFa and Alt-Right claim they're the ones who're on the police shit list and that it's the other in league with them.
Probably because they don't need to. They already win every fucking fight with them.