Do these people actually want conflict with Russia?

He dindu nufin

Accusing someone sitting opposite at a summit of something like that sounds real smart.

>Russia beats you up

Hi, where are the proofs

Honestly I hope Russia gets wiped off the map when Hillary wins in 2020

You mean why would accuse somebody of a crime when he's an accomplice?

Yes Jews love the thought of Goys killing Goys in pointless wars. What better way to finally destroy the White race than a war between the USA and Russia as Europe is overrun by the Middle-Eastern and African hordes?

Multiple US intelligence agencies' conclusions, multiple allied intelligence agencies' conclusions, the mueller probe, and the senate investigation. If you think they are going to release classified information documenting how they came to their conclusions, you are deluded. If you trust russia over all of these us-aligned intelligence sources, you are insane.

lol there are plenty of minorities in the military. middle and upper class white males aren't throwing themselves at the opportunity to serve.

trump is protecting himself from retaliation, most of his money is tied up in russia after he took his shady business over there since he filed bankruptcy and drained the us too many times.

>all your friends tell you that Russia beat one of your friends up
>your friend has no bruises or scrapes or bumps, but the others insist that Russia definitely beat your friend up
>ask friend if they told a teacher/adult after it happened
>"n-no, it wasn't necessary! You have to punish Russia!"
>ask Russia if they beat your friend up
>Russia says "no"
>your friends call you a traitor for no beating Russia to death on the spot
>ask for any evidence
>"what?! are you Russia's best friend now?! GO BEAT UP RUSSIA RIGHT NOW!"

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This. War with russia= poland,ukraine, belarus, baltics and eastern europe in general becoming killing feilds with nato and russian forces fighting and killing millions of europeans.

>my proof is biased sources who I cannot prove they are telling the truth, but we should believe because the state care about you and would certainly never use you as cattle

>Multiple US intelligence agencies' conclusions
based on what?
>multiple allied intelligence agencies' conclusions
based on what?
>the mueller probe
which was started because of a dossier funded and created by Trump's political enemies and then used by the intelligence agencies to spy on Trump's campaign... hmmmm
>the senate investigation
?????

>If you think they are going to release classified information documenting how they came to their conclusions, you are deluded.
Trump can declassify ANY document he wishes. If there were any evidence, we would have all Dems and NeverTrumpers demanding that Trump release these documents.

They're unhinged lunatics. Yes. There was no reason to have bad relations with Russia for 2 years of Trump's presidency. But thanks to those retards, you had it.

fucking Tusk.. I hope he never comes back.

>based on what?
common sense retard. follow the connections.

What the fuck has the EU done for USA that makes them some special ally?

>Give us proof
>No proof, appeals to authority
US intelligence agencies also concluded that Saddam had weapons of Mass destruction

Without the Russia boogeyman the EU suicide cult will fall apart. Hell it already is on its way.

drumpf could shoot your family in front of you and you would still suck his cock. He's siding against american people with fucking putin of all people. How no-one sees this as treasonous is baffling, imagine if Bush Jr. started siding with Hussein.

>Do these people actually want conflict with Russia?
Russia keeps launching cyberwarfare attacks against the US, so the slav-shits have already started the war.

Imagine if Bush Jr didn't start a war in Iraq over intelligence agency lies

>be DNC
>get your server "hacked"
>the emails from these servers reveal that the DNC is secretly plotting its own primaries while giving the illusion that the citizens' votes matter
>FBI asks to examine the server in order to find out who accessed it
>DNC denies them this access
>[months pass]
>Trump insinuates that the election could be stolen by voter fraud
>Hillary calls this statement "dangerous to our democracy"
>Obama calls this statement "impossible" and tells Trump to stop whining
>[Trump wins]
>Hillary now (suddenly) blames Russia for "hacking the election"
>Obama backs her up and says that he was fully aware of Russians "hacking the election" but chose not to act because he was sure Hillary would win anyway

okay, I followed the events as they took place. where's the evidence?

I want to personally put a bullet in every jews head

He failed to make serious accusations against a foreign leader. What a cuck! I'm a Cruz missile now

That's why they're shitting bricks. Germany already tried to pull the new bff act with Russia the other day in response to PAYING ITS FUCKING DEBTS.

Keep your eyes off the prize libshits. The EU is fucking DEAD today.

Does anyone else get slightly triggered when they see "election meddling" brought up by the mainstream media? Its so disgustingly hypocritical, HURRR AMERICANS SHOULDN'T HAVE TO COMPETE FOR THE USEFUL IDIOT DEMOGRAPHIC, MAKE PROPAGANDA AMERICAN AGAIN

If you think they are going to let you draw your own conclusions, you’re insane
>I have drawn my own conclusions with the same scanty information as you, it I’m perfectly sane.trust me goys
Fuck off

No, they want you dead, your children raped and brainwashed, and they think it's funny

Guy, please. Either post some proof or please be more respectful of GOD.

Democrats want war since their days in power are over

Appeals to authority are not fallacious when there is reason to believe that the authority actually knows the subject.

>muh weapons of mass destruction

US intelligence agencies never concluded this, stop spreading this meme. George bush started a special commission filled with people who had no intelligence experience which took raw, unvetted information and slapped it together into a report.

they exposed the corruption of the DNC, why the fuck would Trump or anyone not a democrat give a flying fuck about that?

youtube.com/watch?v=o--FmUXHPKE

Yes they do

They did find yellowcake uranium in iraq; and the forgeries were from Italy, not domestic intelligence agencies. Bush Jr. rubbing up to Hussein over the American people would have still been traitorous.
keep sucking away though, faggot

They started 2 world wars and they want a 3rd but the only enemy they have is Trump. Good luck to them.

youtube.com/watch?v=wkGiDJ6lB9w

follow these connections asshole.

Nothing

The sole purpose of the EU's creation was to compete with the US economically so as to weaken our influence and power structure.

>Appeals to authority are not fallacious when there is reason to believe that the authority actually knows the subject.
They don't. The DNC denied access to their own server when intel agencies asked.

There's no possible way to determine who hacked the server, or if the server was hacked at all, without examining it.

>Do these people actually want conflict with Russia?
Yes.

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>Do these people actually want conflict with Russia?
Yes. The war on terror is losing steam. (((They))) want a new enemy.

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independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-russia-probe-senate-investigation-us-election-house-probe-a8354786.html

Based on information that they cannot release, because it would endanger national security interests.

Mueller probe was not started based on a dossier, and even if it was, that wouldn't make its conclusions invalid

Dems don't want the evidence released because they recognize that it has national security implications.

>how no-one sees this as treasonous
Social media is flooded with liberals and neocons who are crying “treason” right now.
>Hussein
What did he do to the US again?

Your opinion stands in opposition to the entire intelligence community. As long as you understand that, you can have your shit opinion

Leftists love treason though.

as someone who works in tech at a high level, has comp sci degree etc, its astounding to me that this is all based off as far as we know, maybe the CIA and NSA have some super secret recording of putin verbally conifrming he hacked the DNC server, but this is all based off a UKRANIAN company that has been caught falsely accusing russia in the past.

Russia has over 100 million white christians
Of course liberals want to go to war with that

>entire intelligence community meme

total deflection. they had zuckerberg testify in congress for a reason. it's a fact they placed divisive political ads aimed as us citizens. mccain brought the dossier to the fbi for a reason. a dossier exists. stop focusing so much on the dnc/rnc look at the individuals and their interests. all of this stuff is available and the history about the people involved is on the internet if you actually care about bribery and the possibility of russia helping manipulate a presidential election w the potus being aware of it. there's not gonna be one obvious smoking gun, obviously they try to cover tracks. you have to follow trails or wait until the investigation is complete before acting like there's no evidence or it's a dnc scam.

Yes cuase the intelligence community has so much trust.

Nobody has proven anything yet, and you believe without a shred of evidence. Who's opinion is shit again?

>when Hillary wins in 2020

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You know that's an appeal to authority fallacy? You should really learn some fact and logic based argumentation.

The upload download speeds were way above any known internet connection capability, meaning the only thing that fast is direct USB. There was no hack. His name was seth rich.

What national security would be endagered by releasing proof of russian hacking? Do you mean that theyre afraid of what will be found out about them? Why should we protect people who are legitimizing the emails that criminalize them?

>Give us proof
That's what the Kremlin kept saying after every single time it got caught lying. "Pwoofs" is so laughably anti-Russian that it's a fucking meme now.

Remember how Putin sent Spetznaz into Ukraine without uniform insignia and tried to claim "no pwoofs, no pwoofs!" Turns out he lied.

Remember how Putin's soldiers shot down MH-17 with a Buk-21 missile in 2014 and then tried to claim it was a Ukrainian fighter jet that shot it down with a 2012 cut&paste Google Maps? "No pwoofs, no pwoofs!" Turns out they lied.

Remember how the Russian Ministry of Defense tried to claim that the US was secretly conspiring with ISIS fighters using a screen shot from an AC-130 Gunship video game? "No pwoofs, no pwoofs!" Turns out they lied.

The only thing that can be counted upon in this world is a fountain of lies and disinformation from dishonest Russia, and treacherous Putin is the firehose of those lies.

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Nice whataboutism retard. But MAGA, even though he is shilling out to russia, china, and fucking Israel. His administration is the ultimate zog, not to mention chink slave.

Nothing you said in your post matches what is said in the article.
All that article says is that a committee determined that Russia interfered in the election on direct orders from Putin to help Trump. No evidence is mentioned besides "2,500 documents," which are so revealing that Independent only chose to highlight one talking about Trump Jr. meeting with that Russian lawyer.

Did you really think nobody would, you know, CLICK THE FUCKING LINK YOU PROVIDED AS A SOURCE?

Russia has and is already attacking us, and Trump is bending us over to take it.

Wtf are you talking about? Putin is a criminal and needs to be punished but Trump says nah he is a good guy. Doesn't sound like any kind of collusion at all. RIght?

They think that conflict with Russia is as inevitable as you think conflict with Israel is, for basically the same reasons.

>turns out they lied
>still no fucking proof

Third time

My evidence is that we have created intelligence organizations to guard the united states, and these organizations have been given the express permission to keep information confidential in order to ensure they can perform their job well. Every one of these organizations that has looked into this matter has come to the same conclusion about russian meddling.

Their opinion on this matter is only opposed by the Russian government, an adversary to american political interests.

An appeal to authority is not a fallacy if there is a reason to believe the authority knows about the subject.

Yeah lets punish Russia? how sanctions? already in place, so tell us geopolitical genius how would you punish Russia?

Don't rely on our allies who are making energy deals with him that provide 70% of their economies. So show us your "punishment" to Russia.

>My evidence is that we have created intelligence organizations to guard the united states, and these organizations have been given the express permission to keep information confidential in order to ensure they can perform their job well.

>we created an unaccountable organization that can abuse secrecy to make sure no one knows what they're doing. These people are completely trustworthy and would never lie to us.

>to guard the united states
G L O W I N G

Sources would be put at risk and methods would be revealed

What sources, the DNC server? Shouldnt we know what was being stolen?

You probably work minimum wage for a company owned by a jew. You mad?

>Do these people actually want conflict with Russia?
Yes, because they need to resolve it and collect their peace points.

My article was in response to the many question marks in response to me saying the senate investigation concluded this

>My evidence is that we have created intelligence organizations to guard the united states
Not even a decade after the CIA was created, they were forcing American citizens to ingest drugs in an attempt to figure out a real-world way to control people's thoughts...

It is literally worse at this point to keep everyone guessing and arguing than whatever minor damage to process would be done by revealing the information. Thats such a bullshit argument. Quit fucking glowing

>white christians
hahahahah lmao. more like alcoholics whores and other subhumans.

Why would the election meddling lead to conflict? US and Russia used to blame each other for everything and present all kinds of "proofs" in their witch hunts and it never lead to war.

The issue here is that Trump gave something (however little) away but got absolutely nothing in return and that didn't just make him look weak, it proved him incompetent.

>The DNC denied access to their own server when intel agencies asked
No, a private security company cleaned the Russian infestation off the server and it returned to service. Months and months later when the FBI asked for it, the Russian virus files were no longer on the server. It was pointless, other than for the FBI to point to the server in federal court and say here is Exhibit A.

not a shread of evidence. all you shiulls say is "mah intelligence" well.. WHERE IS IT?
nothing produced, more "according to sources familure with his thinking" propaganda

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Yeah, based on no evidence.
Funny, isn't it? All these "conclusions" and yet we are allowed to see no evidence because of "national security reasons." HMMMMMMMMMM

Organizations are made up of people. These organizations in particular tend to be made up of conservative people. Do you suppose nobody would blow a whistle if they were literally being ordered to make shit up?

Putin's regime should be overthrown and he should be tried as a war criminal and a dictator.

>private company cleaned russian infestation off of it

I shiggy fucking diggy

source: my ass

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I want a nuke battle with Russia, but for now it would help if they appointed a more cooperative president

>It's literally worse...

On one hand, we have the methods of our intelligence community getting out and making things easier for criminals and foreign actors to get away with crimes and plots. On the other, we have Jow Forums autists getting mad because they believe russia over the US, even though they wouldn't be able to interpret anything released anyway

It's a hard choice, I agree

Please don't tell me you actually believe that deleting stuff off a hard drive makes it completely vanish.
>Well, Chief... we seized the computer of the child pornographer, but he deleted all the files so there was no evidence at all.

All you slav-shits who got your asses kicked off Twitter and Facebook decided to come here and shit up Jow Forums too?

Saying you don't need an argument because your betters told you so is as much and fallacy if there ever was one. You aren't proving anyone wrong by saying the government told you so.

>Please don't tell me you actually believe that deleting stuff off a hard drive makes it completely vanish.
Maybe you Russians regularly fall for nonsense like that, but everyone with an IQ over 10 already knows it's a fact.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gutmann_method