Dear countries-monarchies, what do you think of your royal families?
>Vladimir Putin 'wants' to reinstate Russia's royal family and bring back the Tsars
express.co.uk
Worth it?
>inb4 Romanovs were killed after the October revolution in 1917.
The family was rather big and cousins managed to flee to Austria and France.
Romanovs were fucking shit.
They can be shit but they were a royal family of Russia. The history knows many examples when kings/queens around the world were weak-minded and lacked leadership.
today is 100 years since the kiling of Romanovs btw.
The concept of monarchy is outdated in general, and has historically been in direct opposition to nationalism.
Monarchies are only really acceptable when they don't have a significant amount of political power. At that point, there's advantages and disadvantages between a monarchy and a full on republic.
exactly - turn Russia into a parliamentary monarchy. like the UK for example.
What about Saudi Arabia, UAE, Brunei etc.?
Then they're just a waste of money.
>Saudi Arabia
The name of the country literally says that its the personal property of the House of Saud and not a free nation. It's anti-nationalism, just like the Ottomans and Austria-Hungary.
>Austria and France
So you want to reinstate the monarchy by giving power to some random half-nigger mutt that no doubt holds extreme leftist views but happens to be some distant cousin of the most cucked tsar in our history? Fuck that.
A monarch existing as a cultural figure definitely has some strong advantages, yeah. Not sure it's worth moving away from an actual republic though, and I don't really understand why Putin would be interested in this.
Having read through the article, I think I get it. Yeah, it might be a good idea.
You're vastly underestimating the importance of cultural symbols/leadership.
t. dipshit
>waste of money
pretty sure a huge chunk of UK's tourism revenues come from the royal family.
that's your opinion
Romanovs are a symbol of Russia's failure, not its strength.
He doesn't, it was a meme proposed by some member of the Duma. The article is from fucking 2015.
I don't know, I don't especially like Monarchi either, but I'd say democracy is a much worse risk for Nationalism, especially in today's world when it is so easy to fool the ignorant masses with propaganda.
democracy can, unfortunately, be used against itself. it's called liberalism.
That's an argument against, not for monarchy. The British monarchy is equally worthless and needs to go. Unfortunately, Brits are too cucked.
>royal family = class system
>class system = bourgeoisie
>bourgeoisie = upper class
>upper class = capitalism
>capitalism = fair market management
>fair market management = win for everyone
royal family = win for everyone
Capitalism is the other thing that stands against nations.
name a better system... socialism?
been there, done that. no thanks...
Fuck kings, queens and imperialism
As far as I know Putin never said or indicated anything to that effect. There are a couple of clowns around to suggest this at all times and there's even a (fake) monarchist party, but in the end it boils down to what Putin says, and I don't see him saying that. Plus there's the problem of the line of succession, seeing how there are several pretenders, and any attempt to sort through this would be a royal mess. If you go down the Zemsky Sobor route as has been suggested, then there's no reason why it should be limited to the descendants of Romanovs, and this would pave the way for all kinds of bullshit like naming Putin the Tsar for example.
t. navalny
Who is the rightful heir to the throne then?
You're arguing with a college faggot from the US likely, who learned a bunch of edgy buzzword shit about Lenin, Castro, Mao and all the other bullshit. He simple wont recognize all the greatest advancement in history was under a monarch rule. I bet he'll simple parrot the last 100 years though.
Tsar Martyr Nicholas pray for us
The monarch is literally the embodiment of the nation.
Honestly Putin probably deserves it more than any Romanov, same way Napoleon was more deserving to rule France than any failed Bourbon.
Putin put away his wife and has no kids. He's a genetic dead end.
Bring back a nominal monarchy under a Romanov heir. It can be like the Netherlands.
>>Vladimir Putin 'wants' to reinstate Russia's royal family and bring back the Tsars
What the fuck. Nigger fuck that cuck shit, he should find some young ambitious FSB spook and get him to run the country and declare himself emperor. Fuck bringing back inbred parasites. Most of them are virtue signalling faggots who will bend anyway.
The house of Romanovs still own like 40% of Moscow estate have and official residence in the city centre.
Dynasties are shit. He could just adopt a heir.
he has 2 daughters
also there are rumours he has kids with his lover gymnast Alina Kabaeva
Chekists did more for your country under a century than foreign blue bloods did for a millennium.
this
Well, no. The whole point of monarchy is that you don't "earn" it or "deserve" it - it's your birthright. There are laws and shit to determine succession, it's just that this particular case is apparently pretty ambiguous.
>The whole point of monarchy is that you don't "earn" it or "deserve" it - it's your birthright.
Which is why it's a shit concept.
>Which is why it's a shit concept.
oh geez the fucking half-breed shit-gened communist garbage human ignored by their ironically bourgeois parents is against a system where a person's purity and heritage matters. GET OUT OF HERE.
you beg for a world where everybody is ugly so that you can stop being reminded that you'll never, ever be beautiful.
There's some logic behind it. Part of it is that it forces randomness and thus allows for true visionaries (as well as true fuckups) to take the helm as opposed to a democratically elected leader, who's always the same charismatic manipulative scumbag. Then there's also the concept of personal responsibility that's missing in democratic systems. When your democratically elected leader fucks something up or becomes a literal Hitler, you can't really blame him because it's your dumb ass that voted for him. If you then go ahead and lynch him or Nuremberg his ass it becomes pretty hypocritical and dishonest. Meanwhile you can and should lynch the Tsar if you don't like him - you never asked for that shit and your protest is morally justified. Then there's the issue of the ownership of the realm. When you vote for some guy to rule you for four years, it's obvious that he's gonna just use this opportunity to get rich at your expense, not necessarily making the country richer in the process. Meanwhile the Tsar already owns everything, including you, and will continue to own it his whole life, and will pass it onto his kids, and so he has a direct interest in making the country prosperous. Now not every Tsar chooses to act upon this and not every Tsar is necessarily smart enough to pull it off, but the logic is there.
