If it weren't for the absolutely fucking retarded Migrant crisis and their idiotic leftist politics that made it happen, the EU would basically be paradise.
Yes, even with the dumb restricting laws.
If they hadn't have let the whole of the middle east and Africa waltz in unimpeded, this place would basically be be Jow Forums's wet dream.
And they fucked it, they utterly and completely fucked it. I'll never fucking forgive them. I'm so fucking mad.
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>implying that those decisions were made by the EU
They were made by your toxic cunt of a leader.
For the whole of Europe.
You stupid white-guilt-riddled cunts have ruined this place for the THIRD TIME in less than 100 years.
EU would never be paradise. People in general are very efficient in finding ways to make their own lives harder. Nothing is ever ideal, nothing is ever static, paradise is unachievable.
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Of course if we're going to get fully philosophical, but you know exactly what i mean.
This place would have been a bastion of the best of human capabilities.
We could have had a science-race with the USA for fun.
But no, instead we got sub-85 IQ rapists.
Great fucking deal we made there.
Yup.
Merkel is just a ZOG puppet, but the non-white immigration isn't new, it's been happening since the 60s (mostly because of US pressure). In the UK it started in the late 40s iirc.
Not really, but the Refugee Crisis just accelerated the problems that were building up.
With those weak politicians EU would fuck up one way or another. But since Merkel fucked it up HARD this time, we can at least get some based rightwing EU that is going to actually act as a superpower and not as some sellout shit with corrupt politicians who sack money and refuse to do the work.
It's not even about non whites, it's about importing cunts whose ideology and culture is completely antithetical to our own.
The people that came to the UK in the 40's were from former colonies; their cultures had been consumed and hammered by the British empire in the same way all of ours were by the Roman empire.
Though were are indeed different, we're brothers in that history all the same.
The people coming in right now are literally invaders.
HAHAHAHA you can have a thousand reasons to be butthurt, but this isn't one of them. If you look at it with a wider scope you instantly see that this has happened in every white majority country. The elected leaders don't give a single justification for it. It's clear that they all follow order
So you had no problems with immigrants of Pakistani origin beforehand?
Your guy Enoch Powell recognized what would happen in 1968 already.
The Pakistani migrants have become a problem, and guess why...
We all know why.
Their Islamic culture.
Did you read/listen to the rivers of blood speech by Powell? This has been going on for ages and is driven globally.
>idiotic leftist politics
the whole migrant crisis was started by a supposed "conservative" female politician
We dont even need to go philosophical. That's just how it is in real life. It sounds like you are imagining some kind of utopia.
Conservative does not mean the same thing here in Europe as it does in the USA and Canada.
Fuck the EU if there wouldn't be shitskin immigrants there would be Polish Immigrants shitting down everyones wages EU should have stayed as a trading union fuck this "superstate" and "one Country" garbage literally made for beaurocrats to syphon more Money out of the European Population
Any kind of EU is no matter if its right wing it's going to be
Globalist/internationalist
Anti-Nationalist
Multi-Cultural
Multi-Ethnic
One-Currency
No-Borders
One-Military
If you want that whats listed above move to the fucking US
A good prosperous place is not a dream, and what i'm describing is basically just what europe was on its way to anyway, before this shit.
bureaucrats*
So conservative means leftist in Europe? I'm not trying to defend the left but lets at least try to be accurate about these things.
Genetics are a thing. Culture is downstream from race.
If anything this is an opportunity to crash and rebuild the whole thing. Those streams of Africans are too much to drown out all the multiculti programming in the world.
Hey man, i voted for Brexit for this exact shit.
If it weren't for the migrant crisis, i might have thought "nah fuck it, let's stay in" - but this crisis redpilled me hard and fast.
Conservative means sellout everywhere in the wider US empire (NATO, SEATO, etc).
Genetics generate culture, but it is important to understand the eugenic effect culture has on the individuals within it.
Complex societies demand complex individuals, to a level that even the least educated population of Europe are significantly smarter than the average third-worlder.
In the context of Europe alone, the 'lower classes' seem idiotic, but crushed into a bare minimum level of intelligence by the Darwinian environment of the culture itself, they outpace others.
This system, it must be noted however, fails when enough low-IQ people are artificially injected into the culture, so as to bring its vector away from that eugenic IQ-pressure.
When the Romans found us Brits, we were a bunch of mud hut dwelling retards banging sticks together - it took time, but eventually we were crushed into the mold of high culture in spite of our genetics.
The same can happen, in time, to migrants, but not if they fundamentally change the culture before it can change them.
This is my greatest concern.
EU conservative means “do absolutely nothing until on the edge of disaster, then panic and react in the worst possible way”
You could be right but even if you integrate a bunch of Indians or Africans, all you've done is create an environment where their descendants compete with yours for the same ressources.
The problem is that the migrants never integrate. Look at the Turks in Germany. Even the 3rd generation immigrants are roaches
hey bong wanna talk about the creation of the state of Israel? No? so shut the fuck up and go wank your paki lovers
What i'm talking about is scaled on millennia, not a couple generations, and without the allowance of ghettos and fifth-column enclaves.
If pockets of alternative culture are allowed to clump and maintain themselves within the host culture like a parasite or tumor then of course they can maintain their shit almost indefinitely.
It is the duty of the dominant culture to break those clumps up and massage them into the wider population where they can be properly assimilated.
I understand your concern but since your country is one of the niggest, aren't you part of the problem?
This. Germany is dead.
They will never ever undo this Islamic invasion they invited in with open arms, the only possible thing to undo it would be a huge mid-to-far right wing movement.
Thousands of years of history, thousands of years of war and bloodshed and fighting for your people, all to be destroyed in less than 10 years by the hysterical over-indulged empathy of a few politicians.
I know Germany and Britain have had their spats, but it's so sad to see them go. And they really are going this time...
oui. You got a license for that permit for that pass to have your utopia bruv?
12yos in the UK are getting ED from Cialis abuse from orgies. 40% of the youth identifies as not heterosexual.
You're fucking retarded if you think Europe would be a paradise without the shitskin invasion.
Europe is moving into the right direction, if Italy moves ahead with the plan to deport half a million Africans then the rest will follow. The left is already collapsing in Germany and the AFD (which includes figures that have been calling for 'remigration' aka deportations for a while) is absoring their share. I'm a lot more white pilled about the future developments here than I was before the 2015 invasion. Demographics have been a talking point here for a while but politics and media have been able to ignore it. Thilo Sarrazin for example wrote a book about it that sold very well but he got immidiately blacklisted.
I'd rather they not integrate because that means large scale miscegenation. I want them gone.
>anything other than a soul crushing, censorship-ridden shithole where your people are replaced is an unreachable, dreamscape utopia
The Turks have been coming to Germany since the 1960s due to US pressure. This isn't a short term thing and things are starting to shift here. There's a combination of lefty media, impotent police and foreigners trying to assert themselves that's creating a tense environment and there's actually people around who can take advantage of it.
Britain is a strange one, it's always been the odd one out of Europe.
The honest truth is that Britian has always been more Meme than Gene. Sure, we have the outlying Scotland, Wales and Ireland orbiting England, maintaining its roots, but at the center is a gravity well of culture memetics sloshing about in a chaotic soup.
It's not comparable to somewhere like Germany, or Sweden or Italy, whose strong people and their proud history are its backbone.
Britain is europe's own naturally forming hyper-dynamic experiment. To be left alone and watched by the rest of the continent, not emulated.
there are basically no small government right wing parties in europe
I see what you are saying now. But Europe had too much too quickly, so that probably won't happen without mass expulsions
Thoughts on this thread I did a few months ago?
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Precisely, you understand.
It is... indigestion.
> just what europe was on its way to anyway
Yes, but without EU and every country by it's own speed.
And if you are on the way to that, you need to keep going and not trying to force the same course and speed to others by throwing money on them, it will fuck you over and the other country as well.
Czech Republic was getting better without the EU, slowly, but surely. People were learning to stand on their own legs, to be responsible for themselves, not to fucking steal, because when there was socialism, there was this popular proverb "if you don't steal you are robbing your own family" lot's of things were unavailable, it was fucking socialism.
Now with all those fucking grants, sign on every corner, this shit was financed by EU, that shit was financed by EU, solar panels on every field that's not full of that yellow plant used to make biofuel, politicians are stealing like never before. Just don't give czechs oportunities to steal, it seems to me like we as a nation didn't learn how to not steal, it's rooted so deep.
tl dr. Just don't give us money for nothing please, it's too early for us. We are still learning how to live in a normal society free of socialism.
>salvini gets elected
>immediately start solving migrant problem in italy
>durr hurr we dindu nuffin we wuz victims n sheeit
oh no no no no
>can be properly assimilated.
no thanks.
are you on the wrong board?
We are 56% white with 1/3 the population and we are importing over 1 million shitskins per year. Not only that but we have 300,000 cross our southern border illegally every year. We also have more niggers than south africa. It’s not too late for you to turn it around, don’t get blackpilled.
NATO existed before this clusterfuck before pushing that meme the Russian annexation.
>they'll just get their own dose of cultural marxism and niggers with a little delay.
They are getting pushed by cultural marxism by the fucking European Union, get it. It even funds LGBT rights census and forces recognition of EU same-sex marriages in Romania.
>Glorious nippon with a BLM flag
Well damn.
I agree with your sentiment, and i think it mirrors my own. This should have been an organized and cleaning effort to right ourselves and mindfully avoid the sorts of classical middle-age bickering that lead to WW1 and 2.
The EU should have been Europe growing up, but instead we've inherited our parent's mansion only to invite a hoard of Africans and Muslims to come live in every room.
And the sickest part, is a strong united and well-aimed Europe would not have been a tyranny on the global stage like an overpowered China might be, it would have been an exporter of prosperity to the developing world.
We have become the fisherman who did not teach his neighbor to fish, but rather the fisherman who gave away his boat and rod to his neighbor who does not know how to use either.
The BlackPill is not a death-sentence, it's a test.
Redpills awaken, Bluepills sedate, but Backpills... they refine. Overcome or die.
Survive a Blackpill and you earn a halo.
>Starts solving
The uncuckening is still at the beginning, most people want Australia style border policy.
Please do. Italy is the grandfather of Europe, and Greece is our great grandfather.
We still need you. Now is not the time to let Alzheimer's take you.
Read it again boomer, it's not mutually exclusive.
Italy, Hungary, Poland, Austria and the likes are explicitly turning nationalistic by their own accord, shutting down the outside pozz-influence i spoke of.
Here's a small diagram
>Decisions of pozzing white majority countries are made
>EU is used as a distribution point for imminent pozzing
>Pozzing is implemented by compliant leaders
>Non-compliant leaders don't get pozzed countries but are threatened on all economic levels by the pozzers
I enjoy the good language and metaphors in your posts. For that I will award you my cutest helper
True that!!!
Find your way back to the light black pill anons
Muhh spoons
You do know this whole "ever closer union" stuff was in the Treaty of Rome already, right? It was always a political project, never just a trade union.
The Slavic countries have a certain reservoir of potential that the further-western European nations have already tapped, and you will prosper from what gym-goers call (and i do not mean this as an insult;) "newbie gains".
You suffered under the boot of communism, and now capitalism is seeping into your veins as is natural, you are going to grow astoundingly rapidly and possibly outpace the rest of Europe which has already peaked in that regard, and has now muddled itself in a stupor of political assetry and hyper-liberal hysteria.
If the eastern Europeans use capitalism as a tool, but hold fast to their roots, they will hold like a mountain of iron in this storm.
Oh my, I might shed a tear of hope, i hope that's true. But the problem is. People are angry at all the politicians that EU enabled to steal more and decieve more, they know very well that that's what's happening. And guess how they want to solve it..... oh well, they just want socialism back.
I hope it will all pass some day.
>Italy is the grandfather of Europe
The Roman Empire isn't Italy. The kingdom of Italy was created in 1871 with the last remaining kingdoms joining the Italian unification as late as 1918. The republic of Italy was created in 1946. Some grandfather of Europe you got there.
Getting rid of niggers isn't enough, the Euro caused massive economic damage and imbalances. The only ones that profited from it are the (((finance sector))) and germany.
Also get rid of the agricoltural quotas and free trade deals with shitholes like cambodia and north africa.
Other than that, yeah the EU would be great if it stopped actively trying to destroy Europe.
I don't think there's anyone here that thinks Schengen is bad, for instance. I remember the olden days of endless queues at the borders and it was a pain in the ass.
Whence cometh the Romans?
From what landmass?
Friendly reminder that lega is now polling >30% according to SWG
>32% of italians wants ALL IMMIGRANTS deported regardless of legal or illegal
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>7 out of 10 italians supports Salvini's line on immigration
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Gun license numbers are skyrocketing as well.
We're becoming more extremist by the minute.
Romulus and Remus were the sons of Mars.
They are Martians.
Shit times we live in.
the EU was always shit. i remember years ago whenever i'd say how bad the EU is, eurocunts would endlessly defend it. the migrant crisis is the only catalyst for political awakening in europe, and even then it's not enough. i guess for a continent of people used to being subjects you can't expect much though.
Forgot the pic.
Lega+M5S is at 60%.
Di Mayo went on television yesterday saying that the self defense reform (basically implementing castle doctrine, for our burger readers) is also an M5S priority now, a complete 180 from what M5S were saying just a few months ago.
Salvini got tired of flashing his high beams at them and overtook them from the right. Now they're scrambling to squeeze what little power is left in their engine by going full nationalist themselves.
Your lega party is a God send spaghet bro.
Looks like Italy is doomed.
How open are you to getting bleached?
by that i mean, how do italians in general view european migrants
>32% of italians wants ALL IMMIGRANTS deported regardless of legal or illegal
Can't wait for the self defense law to pass so that everyone starts buying guns and the prices go down.
I want an AR-15 for shits and giggles. I hope they make it legal to shoot on your own property, although I think that's pretty far out given how crowded Italy is. Too much risk of a stray bullet killing someone.
Salveeneh is the driver, but I have to say that M5S positively surprised me. They've proven themselves surprisingly based so far. Toninelli is pretty much as based as Salvini himself, and Conte doesn't waste any opportunity to stick it to the EU. The only difference from Salvini is that he does it with soft words and a smug smile.
Looks like commie traitors like you are getting the rope.
Reminder that PD is still dead in the water at 18% and the entire radical left combined doesn't even have 5%.
If you integrate you're welcome, but obnoxiously foreign people aren't super welcome even if they're european
>pic related
Merkel is a socially left wing extremist
But, just like America, it was previously people with similar ideas whose ancestors may have fought but were part of the larger umbrella of the evolution of western civilization. The opening of the floodgates to outsiders is the root of the problems we are all having. We are both proof that our common values of hard work, logic, personal liberties and responsibility can blend together to create a successful, safe society. Likewise, the last 60 years with the increasing immigration populations threatening those values in favor of government dependence is proof that the continuance of these practices will only destroy thousands of years of human progress.
Increased violence and crime coming directly from the groups we never used to have in any large number combined with the subsidizing of the lower classes that they comprise the bulk of, due to their inability to succeed in our established systems, is causing their numbers to swell. They're having more kids than us, despite being a net negative economically on the whole. Yet, not understanding their lack of real success is their fault for not changing the cultural ideals that have caused their countries to stagnate for thousands of years, they instead blame us for their troubles. It's simply labeled as racism and us as oppressors, as if we wouldn't welcome with open arms anyone who actually improved our societies.
Somehow, despite the creation of EO laws and affirmative action intended to give them a leg up at our own expense, in societies whose very existence predicates on the fact that your personal merits largely determine your lot in life, their failures are only due to whatever feeble rationalizations they came come up that somehow all end up with us being the bad guy.
Toss out anyone who came to our countries in the last 75 years that didn't come from North America, Europe, Australia, or white South Africa. Close the gates and never open them again.
Please expound on this post, seems you have some great insights