Why was the captain in Lone Survivor such a huge pussy?

> capture Taliban scouts
> dont kill them
> no, instead, let them go
> give up their position
> let everyone under his command die except one

wtf happened to the US military?

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why they made a movie about a bunch of losers getting what they deserved is beyond me

I would have broken the scouts leg's or hobbled them somehow.

>Mark (((Walberg)))
Stop appropriating White culture.

Their names should be remembered bit only to spit on if the movie is accurate

I never fully trust a story in which there was a "lone survivor"

>military journalist Ed Darack cites a military intelligence report stating the strength of the Taliban force to be 8–10, compared to the more than 200 claimed by Patrick Robinson in Lone Survivor.

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>be american
>obviously not the sharpest tool
>do american shit
>like being dumb as fuck
>here comes hollywood
>not many people will notice how much we fucked up because were mark wahlberg now
>$$$
gonna be honest, they were just being what their le 56% dna permitted

>MUH PROPAGANDA
>MUH HEROES DIE RATHER THAN HURT MUH POOR AFGHANI FARMER BOY

GOOD THING JEEZUS CHRYSE WILL SAVE THEM ALL IN HEAVEN *SIPS WHISKEY*

I would have shot them in each brain hemisphere like a FRIKKEN ASSASSIN

Jew led his team into an Ambush and turned on them now fat paid from hollywood.
Many such Cases.

of course you would have, deshawnqua

Because they're not GRU.

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Of course they're gonna say it was 200 code for 20 or so, remember these guys fought spetznas for shits and giggles, these guys run up and down mountains as a part of life and are born with an ak, lmao

I didn't get it either. The entire thing looks like a complete and major fuckup. I'm not even sure what the message is supposed to be.

>awww he's just a poor muslim kid! Let him go!
>muslim kid rats them out immedately
>rest of the movie is them getting fucked up as they try to survive from their own stupid mistakes

No shit it was a fuck up. Wow we got a rocket scientist over here.

The real story is not at all like the movie you dumb fucks

I saw this in the cinema on opening weekend while on holiday in America. It was fucking bizarre how everyone in the theatre stood up clapping until the credits finished. The filthy looks I was given for attempting to get up and leave.

I'd hate to break this to you, but Luttrell was a lying sack of shit. Every SFag I've talked to on Jow Forums and in real life has said that SEALs are psychos with effectively zero compunction with murdering civilians. And given the documented brutal conduct of SEALs in the past as well as Special Operations Command's history of covering said incidents up, I'm inclined to believe them.

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they didnt kill them because they didnt want to risk liberal media backlash.

>keyboard warriors ITT

lol this. but he admitted he was one of the the faggots of the story

>Obama-era ROE
>imagine my surprise

>It was fucking bizarre how everyone in the theatre stood up clapping until the credits finished
Do they shout things of encouragement and whatever to the characters?

I have worked with SOCOM before and SEALs are generally the least respected SOCOM force in the US military. Cowboys with guns as my Ranger friend put it. No tactics and very little discipline.

The controversies are out there. Green Berets were my favorite to work with to be honest. Most are smart as hell.

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>What is the Geneva convention
>What are war crimes
You aren't supposed to kill or hurt war prisoners you mongrel. Letting them go was stupid sure, but you aren't supposed to hurt them.

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forgot pic of a REAL hero

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this is a lame pussy excuse no one from cnn is going to track down some fucking kids killed on a rando mountain half way accross the planet and if they did how would they trace their deaths back to them? also they didnt have to kill them. they could have just left them there to die.

Because the movie doesn't show the scene where he is meeting in secret with the Taliban.
Thats also why they don't kill him and the guy in real life is suing victims of terrorism.

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Geneva convention only applies to uniformed soldiers.
Ragheads all die.

>Letting them go was stupid sure
they treat them like some brave and model soldiers. the dumb asses (except the based two who wanted to kill the muslim fuckers) who are a disgrace to the country

>Cowboys with guns as my Ranger friend put it. No tactics and very little discipline.
Do they have casualty rates which reflect this? What have they been like inter-personally for you?

you did the right thing. these soldiers are a disgrace if story is true.

gooood

And then the Taliban finds their bodies and calls US media and Obama gives them all 30 years in Leavenworth for hurting muh poor little Mohammad. The media does that kind of shit all the time and it wouldn't be hard for military to find out who did it since they were on a mission in the area.

>military journalist Ed Darack cites a military intelligence report stating the strength of the Taliban force to be 8–10, compared to the more than 200 claimed by Patrick Robinson in Lone Survivor.
You mean the guy that had a hard on for Marines and hated everyone who wasn't a marine amd even admitted his book was to talk shit on everyone who isnt a marine?

Bunch of literal retards ITT

was that in america? which would be quite mental, but i know americans love their army guys. or was that in ireland, which would be proper fucking insane

>Geneva convention only applies to uniformed soldiers.
Not according to US military code, dipwad.

>>What is the Geneva convention
literally just a piece of paper, that no terror org abides by. in fact, only civilized western countries take any notice. in war, anything should go. . not because im sick, but i wouldnt trust any enemy to abide by "rules".

Also SEALs pulled dumb shit like trying to land a chopper on top of a mountain crawling with Al Qaeda.

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The point is that they lost more lives because leadership didn't have the balls to do what needed to be done. It shows the animalistic aspects of the enemy in the middle east that even the local populace when faced with the human kindness of foreign soldiers will still turn on you in an instant and then claim "muh taliban is oppressing me!!"

that and ROE is complete and utter bullshit. No reason they should have ever been left alive. I watched the movie and read the book and the book makes it painfully clear that they should have never left those two people alive, they were better off strangling them in the woods.

>I knew this guy who knew this guy who was a seal

Dude stfu

should've hog tied them until extraction time then tied their one of their feet together and their arms together behind their backs and let them hobble the fuck off.
personally I would've killed them

>I have worked with SOCOM before and SEALs are generally the least respected SOCOM force in the US military. Cowboys with guns as my Ranger friend put it. No tactics and very little discipline.


I had a friend who got out of the Navy a few years back who went out with SEALs because he was an EOD Technician and he said they were basically the Prima Donnas of the Navy. They were always demanding the latest and greatest weapons and equipment even if it wasn't necessary for the mission and were rife with drug abuse, most notable steroids.

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i bet you were a fan of bush

They just shouted USA USA USA repeatedly and one guy screamed "Thats for 9/11" in final firefight scene.

It was in America, Vermont to be precise. It was proper bizarre. Kind of like when people on chartered package holidays to Spain etc clap when the plane lands but even more surreal because it was just a film.

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>179145665
Walhberg isnt a kike you dipshit

He wasn't a SEAL, he worked with SEALs because he was a qualified EOD tech. So his job was to diffuse any bombs they came across.

>Irish has no understanding of patriotism or national pride
Considering your history, makes sense, desu

nathan why would you type your name, in the name box? what kind of handicap is your brain sporting?

He didn't want to end up on CNN due to cucked military practices

he was an awful president

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Today, the digits were wrong.
Sieg heil mein fuhrer

>be Afghan goatfucker
>your 12 year old son goes into the mountains and doesn't come back for dinner
>hes anal prolapse goat meat stew is getting cold
>go search the mountains
>find your son hogtied by a bunch of americans
>they tie you up too
>village realizes somethings up
>calls out the militia
>get caught in a crossfire while hogtied with your son

to be fair, im not surprised in america. i almost admire their admiration for their forces. if the army actually did worthwhile shit i would love it. sadly, previous leaders have made the most retarded decisions, and the american citizens just lap it
>WOOHOO FREEDOM YEAHHHHHHHHH AMERICAAAAAAAAAAAA

Come on now, you have Antifa roaming the streets of your capital, communists are openly threatening your president with violence and you are being replaced in a calculated fashion at an astronomical rate. You have the 2nd amendment which cover you to take action in this situation like a true a patriot, yet you prefer to sit in a cinema clapping at over exaggerated kike made film about a needless war where thousands of your countrymen died or were maimed.

You don't need to defend clapping at movies. You don't need to support the commercialisation of patriotism™.

Nice digits but not entirely true. I voted Trump to get us out of countries we have no business being in. I want out of the middle east. I do love our military but there arent that many americans who will just suck military dick for the sake of. We want to know were fighting for a reason... Which we havent done since .. Well... Pre-ww1.

Damn dude, if only we could have pointed that out to Osama Bin Ladin before 9/11...

>he worked with SEALs
No. He SAID he worked with Seals.
I used to work with Jay Leno.
See how easy that is?

>They were always demanding the latest and greatest weapons and equipment even if it wasn't necessary for the mission
You act like that is a bad thing. It's not and most people in the military would do that if capable.

>were rife with drug abuse, most notable steroids.
Good thing I think. Steroids make you strong and angry. That's what I want to see in trained killers. But I also believe that is a lie since you are tested all the time at random when you actually have an important job. At least I was. So unless they are being drugged by the government or some conspiracy I don't believe it.

Of course the leaders make mistakes. First the Neocons honestly believed with conviction in their hearts that anybody, ANYBODY would be Western if we just got rid of the dictators holding them back. This was wrong, if anything all it did was give birth to new dictators and create more terrorists. Then of course the Neocons themselves realized the error of their way and tried to go full neo-colonial and take resources from the countries and make profit, ISIS shut that down.
Then we get Neoliberals trying to do the covert war thing and when we got close to a ground invasion of Syria, Neolibs decided to change tactics. Neolibs believed anybody would be Western if just let them into our countries and showed them how its done. All that did was create a resting spot for foreign fighters so they could go back and fight.
Then here are today.

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All the same things are happening to your country. I go to Dublin for work. Looks like shit fucking foreigners everywhere. Only difference between my country and yours with the homo leadership is the US has the most populous and vocal right wing political group of any western nation. So don't act like you are better. You aren't. You are objectively worse.

>go full neo-colonial and take resources from the countries and make profit
>Implying colonialism is a bad thing
I think if we are going to fight these wars we should keep and control the territory for economic gain. The war can be pointless morally but I'm fine with it if we get money and power. Which is why most wars have been historically fought.

That entire op was a cluster fuck from start to finish and the general or whatever was in charge got in deep shit for it if I remember correctly

Yes that is true, however Neocons are business people of the modern age. The people in the country are resources too and you better believe the Neocons thought they would exploit their labor for profit. You have to understand the flaws in Neocon thinking, and that Muslims do not care for capitalism, profit, or making money they all want Islam and Islam only. Neocons literally thought they would make employees out of the muslims in the middle east.

I don't want to get into a shitslinging contest over whose country is a bigger kip. Both have serious problems. Sure Dublin has a lot of foreigners because its a corporate tax haven for hundreds of foreign companies but Ireland as a whole is still 95% European and 89% native. We might not have a very vocal right wing but we don't have a very vocal left wing like America has either. Most people here don't give a shit about left or right wing politics. Antifa don't exist really, the last person that threatened our president was locked up in prison and we're the only Western nation that isn't being outbred by non-Europeans.

Don't get what your problem is really. I struggle to understand why its patriotic to clap at a film where millionaires play the parts of people who died in the name of your country in a war that should never have happened.

i just didnt think it had realistic gun fights and quite frankly you might as well call this movie behind enemy lines 88 or w/e number they are at now

That faggot doesn't represent us, he's most likely from Dublin i.e. a Crypto-Anglo i.e. not Irish.
Overt American patriotism seems corny to these commie fucks because they're so cynical and demoralised. Obviously, that tendency has been used against you to fight needless wars, but it's admirable in and of itself.

Already dealt with you here before I read that post.
You have absolutely no clue what you're talking about, it's laughable, just lurk for another 12-18 months before you post again. It's in your best interests.

What exactly have I "no clue" about what I am talking about?

Another brain dead muck savage that cries about the Brits still larps about the IRA while wearing English football team jerseys and still finds time to suck off an American in the hopes of being told what a good paddy he is, even though that same American said this about your countrymen and history Unironically KYS you abortion loving, faggot worshipper.

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You have to be 18 to post on this site. Your reading comprehension and analysis of the political climate in Ireland, particularly:
>we don't have a very vocal left wing like America has either. Most people here don't give a shit about left or right wing politics.
is laughable.

>not knowing who Nathan Bedford Forrest

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He was obviously a true war hero, but how much do you think his story was exaggerated? There is no way it actually went down exactly the way it's written, just impossible.

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The clearest sign that you are a summerfag trying out Jow Forums for the first time is that you are chimping out screeching about lurking more and being 18 to post on this site. Chance are at best you on only just turned 18 and your mammy has finally allowed you on the internet unsupervised. Also caring about grammar etc at 2.45am.
But that aside do continue with your criticism. We don't have a very vocal left wing. Everyone takes the piss out of the PBP, The Left Alliance, The Socialist Party and even Sinn Fein. None of them ever pull decent numbers in elections.

>most of the post is ad hominem
>doesn't understand overton window
underage Pale-dweller confirmed

>Cowboys with guns.

user, cowboys did have guns. That statement is nonsense. 13 series are the best to work with though. Seals are fags also.

>And then the Taliban finds their bodies and calls US media and Obama gives them all 30 years in Leavenworth for hurting muh poor little Mohammad.
prove it was them who killed them

They actually would have been fine if the O-4 hadn't been overconfident and a piss-poor planner and coordinator.

>Oh, I haven't heard from my team in a while even though its one of my most reliable JOs. Better go ahead and detach all my airlift assets to support other missions so any QRF will be delayed at least an hour.

>at 2.45am.
Are you dumb or something? It's almost 7pm, try looking out a window sometime you basement dwelling incel

Still waiting on your criticisms. I was simply responding to your attempts at character assassination and how your behaviour reveals your own immaturity and poor character.

You still haven't given a decent critique on anything you've said I am wrong about.

wasnt this the mission where they got inserted via rotor wings in a pretty isolated valley?

You dumbshit, everything he says is still true. If we both don’t fight humanity will die.

Politicians got involved in making decision on do and don't in war.

>tell me what I'm wrong about
Do you want me to explain Ireland's political trajectory in the last year, the last 15 years, or the last hundred years? Because clearly you are ignorant to it all if you think Ireland doesn't have a vocal and dominant left-wing.

The army has been shit for a long time. Theres only so much you can accomplish fighting against guerilla forces especially since most of the wars have no real purpose or goal. The military is joke even if we have the best one. If we didnt fuck around in places we shouldnt be none of this would happen.

>Dominant left wing

If you consider FF or FG to be left wing then you are a retard. Otherwise then explain how actually left wing parties are so dominant in our politics.

because he forgot the warrior ethos
>i will always place the mission first
and failed the mission and got his men killed. 1st class piece of shit all the way.

Why is that guy so fat?

why are they wearing skateboard helmets?

Stfu name queer

Good question lol

Pro-Tecs are frequently used in training and CQB scenarios where the biggest threat is hitting your head.

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The best part was that guy pulling the gun on the pilot. As if that would play out the same in real life lmao

He liked to dress up as some kinda ghost or sumtin.

This pic is probably from the mid 2000's before all the high speed ballistic helmets came onto the scene.

>Thinking Fatrel is being honest about his telling of the story

Only go in with 4 SEALS; should have beeN at least 8
Fail to take a machine gun; not even a short-barreled Para SAW
>> capture Taliban scouts/goat herders
>> dont kill them
OR tie them up
>> no, instead, let them go
>> give up their position
Don't E&E, instead stay in place and get surrounded
>> let everyone under his command die except one
And got 16 spec ops operators on a Chinook killed coming to rescue them

So... His bad decisions got 19 men killed, including himself

And for that... He got the Medal of Honor

Movie is not accurate at all. The SEALS barely fired a shot, killed NO Taliban at all, and we're up against about 20 Taliban, not a huge force like the movie makes you think.

When the guy who survived was found, ALL HIS AMMO MAGS were fully loaded. He didn't fire one shot.

Seals don't fly helicopters. There are no Seal pilots.

You might be referring to TF160.

This is the faggiest user on one of the gayest most aggravating threads I’ve read today. The Irish are all bitchy chicks like this?

navy seal eh, why did they not tie up the kid and let the old guy go back down. once he was out of sight they could have made a run for it and had more time. instead they let the leap froggin hadji.

military movies are cringy as fuck

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modern military movies, about individuals, are. Movies about the event proper, like A Bridge Too Far, Zulu, Gettysburg, etc. I think are much better.