Is it bullshit?
Even racist?
An invention by (((them)))?
I mean you guys boast all the time how whites have higher IQs than blacks, but you seem to ignore the fact that culture plays a huge role in it too.
Of course an oppressed black person with fragile family background won't have the same IQ as a sheltered spoiled middle class brat. So the concept of IQ is really flawed if you ask me.
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IQ is purely genetics you dumb motherfucker
>culture plays a huge role in [IQ]
a) lurk more
b) leave
One note about IQ is that its a way to gauge your capabilities in Modern, industrial society, not your overall smartness or capability to survive anywhere intelligently. A beduin tribesman can outwit and outpreform even a 200IQ white person in desert, just as he can be outcompeted in an industrial environment.
Ok what am I missing with this environment>genes>culture
Bullshit. I know a very smart couple (both academics) and their son suffers from ADHD, mild autism and fails school on a regular basis. His grades are very bad, he can into simple mathematics.
Different races have different brainmass. More brainmass = more neurons.
Saged
just fuck off mate.
WOW your proof is overwhelming. a whole sentence?!?!?!?!?!
It is bullshit because the people writing them do not have scientific integrity and fudge it every year until women give the impression to be as smart as men.
Same as the sabotage that is Common Core. Common Core is retarded and makes children of both sexes stupider.
However, it has been found that it harms boys more (as they use logic and reason) than girls (as they only memorize instructions), so they pushed that shit so that girls do not look as bad in comparison.
>anecdotal evidence
kill yourself
IQ is genetic and the reason for shitskins having a lower IQ is simple, dowry.
If you want the money/cows to stay within the family, you make them marry a cousin. Inbreeding is the reason. kill yourself you faggot cuck.
>More brainmass = more neurons.
Then why aren't whales a space-faring civilization?
And why are crows smarter than 3-4 years old kids?
how come culture has anything to do with solving intuitive puzzles, homosex ?
Wow, you Jow Forumsacks sure are mad. You can't even argue rationally without spouting racials slurs and hostility.
Who hurt you?
>that IQ map
Southern Hemisphere are shitholes, what a surprise
>So the concept of IQ is really flawed if you ask me.
I really feel like its missing the forest for the trees, if you think the only way to gauge adaptability to modern society is through IQ tests.
Lets say that instead of being concerned about IQ, we are concerned about peoples weight. Both over and under-weighted people have noticeably different outcomes in their lives, regardless if you count that difference in kilogramms, pounds, stones or ox-carts. No matter what system you yourself criticize, or say that one system or another is superior for judging this or that ability, the basic matter that an overweight person will still be a fatass regardless of weather you weigh him in pounds or kgˇs remains the same.
Same with IQ. You can replace, disprove or avoid that specific measurement system entirely, and it would not invalidate in any way the facts that a low-intelligence population will be more troublesome in a modern society. If you dont like IQ differences, lets compare income differences, or rates of violent crimes and rapes, or SDT transmission rates, or even money spent VS money saved.
Disproving IQ does not make a nigger into wakandans.
I get your point, but the association of IQ with certain races is just wrong and has been disproven many times. There are as many black geniuses as there are black retards. Same goes for every other race. But it seems like Jow Forums loves cherrypicking to push their agenda of separation. It's always "US VS THEM!" on here.
Also: if you apply the western standard test for measuring IQ, of course you will have lower IQ points in non-western countries such as Africa.
>There are as many black geniuses as there are black retards.
yes, but since the black IQ curve is a standard deviation behind whites, "Black genius" at the edge of their IQ curve is nowhere near an equivalent to an asian or white person at their IQ curve edge.
Neither are "Black retards" at the left wing edge of their curve anywhere near white "retards". A proof of that is that what was considered functionally retarded IQ among whites was silently lowered to 70 since people discovered that a majority of black people fell into the category of "functionally retarded" by white standards.
Yes, but the point of IQ is to measure a persons adaptability into a modern, western society. The proof itself that they are worse off in that system is another point to not letting them into western society.
>The proof itself that they are worse off in that system is another point to not letting them into western society.
Education, my dood.
IQ gap persists through generations of even enhanced "education", my dood.
American blacks, Australian aboriginals and even canadian natives have been on the recieving end of massive "education" initiatives, and some of the most well-funded schools in america are all-black schools, but no ammount of education can overcome in-build deficiency.
1/3 of china lives on a dolar or day. China is poor asf.
But.. Still they have the highest IQ. Genetics boy
You're retarded and you just proved his point. A completely healthy couple can birth a down syndrome abomination.
>Of course an oppressed black person with fragile family background won't have the same IQ as a sheltered spoiled middle class brat. So the concept of IQ is really flawed if you ask me.
Ahaha. You are implying that a true and factual test is flawed because it points true and factual difference of intelligence between classes. That is "objective facts are racists" and "the truth is patriarchal" level of leftist retardation.
Objective facts can't be racist.
The truth can't be patriarchal.
An objective test doing its job can't be classicist, because reality can't be racist, by very definition.
What good is a high-IQ if nothing of value comes from the high-IQ individual?
Yeah, i proved the point that smart people don't automatically make smart children. So the genetic argument is bullshit.
It was proven many times that china distorts its national data. If you really believe that chinese are the most intelligent then you never met any chinese
lives on a dollar a day*
Yeah I did, and they where smart. Most of them had bussines and alot of there sons went to uni
But they have much higher chance of giving birth to above average IQ child you stupid fuck. I knew IQ in Germany dropped in the past few years but I didn't know you all became clinically retarded overnight.
>Redbull me
I think you meant: Blackbull me
You are talking about chinese immigrants in Europe I'm talking about chinese in china
That is true, and an especially good example of this is the children of high-preforming blacks do not show show any ability to retain their parents high-preformance, but most usually default to the black average of that subgroup. So even admitting the "cream of the crop" of africans will do nothing of worth, since their chidlren will be in most cases just average, and that means low-preforming blacks.
Most of chinese people actually live in rural areas without proper education. So, there we are again. The cat is biting its own tail.
Twin studies refute your claim, enough said, lurk moar faggot.
To be fair, you have to have a really high IQ to understand IQ.
seeAre you resistant to logic or just stupid?
>culture determines IQ
IN ALL FIELDS
For the retards that say "hurr durr it's easier for the civlised westerners than for the poor africans"
Look at japanese, chinks and especially koreans.
South koreans not too long ago were pretty poor and backwards in term of economy and education.
Now they have a better iq than whites.
I ignored this post on purpose because it's bullshit.
Smart people create smart cultur
Dumb people create dumb culture
I mean you see it all the time, a smart person is born in a dumb culture. And he distant himself from that culture
Culture comes from genes.
IQ is correlated with genetics, and can be explained by the environment in which a population evolved. The harsher the environment, the higher the IQ.
Another argument is that the most genetically similar populations have similar IQs. See pic related:
-it explains why Arabs and Iranians of similar income range has similar IQ scores to Europeans. It also shows how far the Niggers are related to us. It's a very interesting diagram and you should download it.
>environment before genes
Absolute retard tier
>this person with developmental problems disproves heritability
German autism is annoying
Genes are selected from a historic environment, witch creates a culture that reflects the selected genes, witch starts to transform the environment once more.
Of note, are two groups we identify as "highly intelligent"; ashkeNAZI's and the Han Chinese
-Problem: Both only have technology because traitors sold them advances made by the West. Other "advances" by them are made from stealing intellectual properties or back-engineering.
Can we name ONE thing either group has done for the planet? It's one thing to be "successful in business", a forte that does not require the ability to innovate, and those who are ingenious, innovative, creative and add real value to societies and the planet
Don't say I never helped you out OP
I say because IQ doesn't test everything. For example, I personally don't think chinese have a very good emotional intellligence.
As far as I understand, IQ just test the 'processors' of a person.
Chinese don't like to SIP.
Damn, is there ANYTHING they can do RIGHT?
I would have to disagree in a challenging environment theory where only the smartest and strongest should survive.
Africa is a literal carnivore kill field Africans get eaten daily. Yet Nog's never really developed more adequate defenses than pointy sticks and brush piles.
Their only apparent evolutionary response is to breed like a disposable herd animal.
Nog's are so stupid they can't even follow the directives of evolution.
Poor whites perform pretty close to rich whites
iq increases with education
some races have large bodies
It's not about predators, remember that in europe too there were a lot of predators before.
It's about the winter coming and having to plan for it, ie think about the future.
Culture is downstream of genetics.
If your group is more genetically wired in ways that result in broken families (promisquity, cheating, being untrustworthy, crime prone and landing in jail, higher time preference,...) then you will also create a culture of raising yiur kids poorly.
If you have the opposite and are by nature more likely to value loyalty, self sacrifice, low time preference, then you will be more likely as a group to promote strong families.
Its literally that easy. Cultures werent assigned randomly to each racial group. Its an extention of thousands of years of genetically similar people behaving in ways they tend to behave.
The SubSaharian region has no harsh winters (like prehistoric Europe and North Asia had) neither severe droughts in the summer (like the Middle East had). Hence they were not pressured to be able to think and plan on the long term, neither were forced to develop their agriculture to sustain themselves throughout the year because resources are available during the 12 months without exception.
On the other hand, Europeans, proto-Arabs, Persians and North Asians were forced to develop complex systems, and then societies, to insure that primordial resources be available during the droughts or winters.
This can be observed in other facets of the negroid behavior. They never developed any kind of developed civilization until the Asians and Europeans colonized them. In the 1800's they were still in a tribal state of developpement.
Also the fact that they cannot plan for the long term explains why their economy is in such a disastrous state.
And since tribal settings favor strong physical assets and aggressive behavior to gain the right to reproduce, this explains why Negroids are so overtly violent compared to other populations.
I hope I explained well enough.
Are you smarter than a dog? Is a dog smarter than a salamander? Is a salamander smarter than a slug? Then yes, IQ is real. It is also genetic as genetic programs build your body and wire your brain, as influenced and honed by environment.
Down syndrome crashes IQ into the floor due to genetic failure, and nothing in the environment can repair that. There are many other IQ destroying genetic diseases. So, given you can see wide IQ variation in the human population due to genetics, there is no surprise that minor variation and predilections exist.
An also extremely valid argument.
I have to agree I was pointing out that environmental pressures such as predation is not what sparks I.Q.
The winter theory is sound, planning required forethought, and anticipation of what if. With long periods of being snowed in.
Boredom sparks creativity, and the need to pass time, and cave paintings may well have been more than just simple art.
Illustrating to and teaching young tribe members how to stalk and kill animals during the plentiful seasons think football playbook.
Iq is real and it is the best test we have on inteligence ...muh its racist muh its’s biast....so is nature...do u have a better test to replace iq??
The way connections are formed are more important than total mass, though both plays a roll. A C. elegans worm only has a handful of neurons, and can never be intelligent no matter how they are ordered. Birds on the other hand have small dense brains, but their connectivity is so high that they are disproportionately intelligent. (a 3-4 year old human brain is still connecting and growing, and not comparable to a matured brain of even another species)
There are many connection related genetic diseases in humans, like Autism, that destroy the functionality of the brain without changing mass.
>Are you smarter than a dog? Is a dog smarter than a salamander? Is a salamander smarter than a slug?
That's such a bad comparison. We are all humans, no matter what race.
I think its a bit wrong to compare brain masses between wildly different species, since the novel brain structures that exist between them invalidates any generalization you could come up with. But within a species, or even compared to its closely related creatures you can derive some conclusions about a creatures or sub-species capabilities by comparing brain sizes in healthy adults.
Comparing the brainsizes of a rat and a chiuaua will probably tell you nothing about the creatures relative cleverness and behaviour, but between a chiuaua and a doberman, or between a brown and black rat, or between swedes and somalis is an insight into the capabilities of groups.
A chiuaua, a german hound and a wolf are all canines, that does not make their cognative capabilities the same.
There is technically no such thing as a race. Only species. There are no different human races because the term is ambiguous.
However there are certainly different human ethnicities. And those populations evolved up to 100 000 years in complete isolation from one another. This gap explains physical and mental differences between them. Hence Why Asians, Europeans, Persians, and Arabs, are smarter than Negroids.
It's not rocket science.
Exactly. Those are all dogs, but humans created different breeds for different needs, hence the gaps in intelligence and physical aptitude.
You sure showed him. Be sure not to break you arm while patting your self on the back.
>you seem to ignore the fact that culture plays a huge role in it too
Where do you think culture comes from?
What other creatures on Earth have a codified set of laws?
You need cog native ability to form a culture, and the quality and character of your culture will be determined by your intelligence and temperament.
the poorest white kids outperform the richest black kids in most scenarios. Yes, economics are a factor, but not as much as genetics.
race is a valid term still used today for animals (and even humans) in scientific studies.
I agree that it's subjective though in the sense that you choose where a race starts and ends.
Nigger if anyone has tried to convince you that IQ has a cultural basis of any kind then they were either dumb as a brick or intentionally misleading you. It's genetic. In fact, most everything from IQ to level of healthy aging, liklihood of staying fit, etc can be predicted reliably based on IQ at age 11. Smart kids are likely to make good choices and dumb ones stay dumb and die riddled with hypertension and dementia.
No scientific study uses race in place of species.
*for animals
In my uni we never use the term race because the definition is so subjective. We use ethnicities as a term. I'm in 2nd year of medical studies and we need to learn about how different population react differently to medications due to different enzymes etc.
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There are a millions of studies out there with the word "race" on animals out there, just do a google scholar search.
sure for about 20 minutes
Yep, in science and medicine in particular it's impossible to not learn about these biological differences in races.
And OP there's plenty of studies on the relation between iq and races.
stop replying or sag3
>Of course an oppressed black person with fragile family background won't have the same IQ as a sheltered spoiled middle class brat
IQ does not test prior knowledge. If you are taking an IQ test, and there are questions pertaining to anything having to do with math, history, language, or even reading, that IQ test is garbage. A real IQ test will only have pattern recognition questions, and very minimal need to read. IQ is almost 100% genetic(barring an extreme lack of nutrition to the point of starvation effecting cognition), and has no correlation to level of education.
Yes lets set IQ totally aside and view outcomes or crime stats or any number of social indicators, Minorities are not blessed with much beyond survival specific skills and instinct. Advance thought requires more prefrontal cortex and the illumination neuronic connections underlying.
Euros had the most dangeorus predators to compete with, other men. Obviously the only way to evolve is to push yourself to be absolute limit and the only thing that can do that to people is other people.
As many black geniuses as black retards? you sir are a NIGGER
I think war also has something to do with it. Europe has been fighting large scale wars for almost all it’s recorded history, and what better way to advance than to be pushed to constant survival? Think about it
you are just stoopid
I personally think it’s just how the same being would perform in different scenarios thats all. For example people that we consider SJWs today would have been the catholic church in the 15th century because they both exhibit the same behavior, just different situations. So if I take a rich black kid and a poor one with the same intelligence, they would behave the same if I switched their positions, it’s mostly biological ingrained
there is no metric for a CQ(Creativity Quotient), but there should be. It would better answer why people with not greatly impressive IQ's, create tings of real value. Tesla is a good example of someone with both a high-IQ and a high-CQ
>Intelligence is also strongly influenced by the environment. Factors related to a child’s home environment and parenting, education and availability of learning resources, and nutrition, among others, all contribute to intelligence. A person’s environment and genes influence each other, and it can be challenging to tease apart the effects of the environment from those of genetics. For example, if a child’s IQ is similar to that of his or her parents, is that similarity due to genetic factors passed down from parent to child, to shared environmental factors, or (most likely) to a combination of both? It is clear that both environmental and genetic factors play a part in determining intelligence.
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Okay, i accept that it's partly genetic, but only PARTLY.
Not sure about that, if you look at long periods of time and warfare europe is more peaceful than africa.
Maybe peace made us how we are more than war.
I don't have the link to prove it but I'm sure I remember reading it somewhere. Might be wrong though.
>IQ is almost 100% genetic
Wrong. See here
wrong. intelligence can be measured even at a very young age and those on the high end of the spectrum always stay high and the ones on the low end always stay low.
You are mixing up intelligence and IQ
IQ tests on adopted children get the same result as of the biological parent, not the foster parent. It's specially evident with black children.
It’s the intensity thats got to do more with it. Wars in Europe was almost total war and everyone was in constant warfare with one another, including frequent peasant revolts, ottoman invasion, Mongol hordes etc up to the 2 world wars. In Africa they were between small tribes and they just went and screamed at each other before going home, they had no mobilized armies, no high intesity conflicts etc.
Take a look at how much we achieved during WW1 and WW2 simply out of necessity, we advanced 100 years in just 10 years.
>The heritability of g is substantial. It increases from a low value in early childhood of about 30%, to well over 50% in adulthood, which continues into old age
>well over 50%
abstract of a study in your link
> The heritability of intelligence increases from about 20% in infancy to perhaps 80% in later adulthood.
> Studies of the effects of genes and environment suggest that the heritability coefficient (ratio of genetic to phenotypic variation) is between .4 and .8,
>Studies of the effects of genes and environment suggest that the heritability coefficient (ratio of genetic to phenotypic variation) is between .4 and .8,
So basically what we're saying although they are being pretty conservative in these studies saying between 0.4 and - 0.8.
You'll see that overall it's an accepted fact for now that Iq is highly correlated to genetics much more so than environment.
Also one of the abstract talked about "nutrition" kek. Of course if you don't even have enough food to put in your mouth that will affect your intelligence, we're talking about normal development here mate.