“Ancient Greece is considered the birthplace of Western culture, with the world's first democratic system of government and major advances in philosophy, science and mathematics”
> The Greek people are not huwhite > Therefore the foundation of Western Civilization is from a non-white people > Therefore huwhite people have no culture
Don’t believe me? Let’s look at some facts…..
Y-chromosones
Passed down from father to son. This allows us to track ancient migrations and let gives us an insight into who your ancestors were.
>Implying whites had no culture before civilization
John Garcia
Greeks are a people descended from proto ind-Eruopeans aka Aryans that were definately white people.
Greek language religion philosophy and culture as well as genetics come from the ancient Aryans. The Arya are the progenitors of Western civilization and the hail from the areas north of the black sea.
pic is of a tocharian who were an aryan tribe that migrated all the way to western china in modern day wigerstan
Ryder Hall
You aren’t redpilled until you realize the chosen people are Europeans and that white privilege is a covenant with god.
Ian Lewis
pic of tocharian aryan of modern day western china
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lmao you gotta be kidding me greece isnt white? next you'll be telling me equatorial africa is white and iceland is black get real please no one believes your slide thread
Brody Clark
1) Modern Greeks are not the same people as ancient Greeks. Modern Greeks are Turks. 2) Ancient Greece was merely a contributor to European culture rather than the 'birthplace'. 3) You're a fucking retard go read a book.
Thomas Lee
You've gone to a lot of bother for the most unconvincing pile of old shite I've ever seen. You assume, you exclude, you act like a silly sausage
Easton Flores
Look at the data 58% of Greeks descend from non-european peoples. None of the 58% are indo-european.
People all over the world speak English doesn't mean they are ethnic Anglo-Saxons. Just because you speak an indo-european language means nothing about ethnic and cultural background.
Greeks aren't Muslim. They are mixed-Turk ethnicity and Christian religion. This isn't an uncommon idea and it is backed by genetic evidence therefore trying to say that I'm some specific poster is almost as retarded as OP is.
Brandon Richardson
europe above italy
Christopher Powell
No1. The 'huwhite ancient Greeks' argument might be true where's your data?
No2. Maybe your should learn history to understand the timeline of Civilization. Greek - Roman - Franks - Holy Roman Etc. Without Greeks huwhite people would still be sacrificing children to Odin.
1) We have DNA from ancient people. Just look it up and find that they don't resemble modern Greeks in any way. 2) Greek and Roman culture was adopted in part by the Germanics but the majority was torn out and thrown away because it was worth less than shit. Greeks adopted their culture from the Middle East and changed it to fit their needs. For a long time Arianism was practiced among the Germanic Kingdoms which was basically Germanic paganism combined with the bible. 3) It's not an argument. It's an objective fact. Not everything that is stated requires you to have an alternative opinion on it retard.
Isaac Jones
Ancient Greeks were Aryans, look at the statues they look Aryan.
Ancient Germanic culture was pagan, also it was more isolated so it didn't have time to develop, but most of the ancient empires of the world were White or White blooded, so yeah.
You're projecting. You're the Turk that is mad about Greeks being genetically related to you.
Jacob Young
>What is white?
"White" is a meme term for American
Europeans identify with their ethnic heritage
While Greeks are white now, ancient Greece would not have considered themselves or cared about being white
Brody Fisher
lies
Dominic Richardson
How?
Benjamin Roberts
>We have DNA from ancient people. Just look it up and find that they don't resemble modern Greeks in any way. but they do, Greeks have appreciable continuity with Mycenaeans, but at the same time are more "northern" i.e have less anatolia_neolithic ancestry and more steppe, likely from Slavs
Christian Robinson
whites stole greek and roman POC accomplishments. Nothing new. Whites are the real we wuzzers, not niggers
Elijah Foster
It's mixed not complete replacement. Turks are steppes people with some other ME admixtures.
Ayden Lopez
the E1b of the Greeks is 99% E-v13, which is essentially an south-east European mutation, happened likely in the late neolithic I mean, it was there likely before R1b-M269 similar thing for G2a
Tyler Cook
the steppe in Greeks can't be from Turks since Greeks pretty much completely lack Turkic paternal markers among them, their R1a is the most likely culprit, from medieval Slavs
Lincoln Edwards
Greeks sculpted statues of themselves, we know what they looked like. They were white. But white, as a term for any European, is a misnomer. The Greeks were Greeks. Athenians Athenians, and Spartans Spartans. Genetically they are/were European. Calling everyone from Europe white plays into the erasure of the multitudes of white culture.
And you have it backwards. Greeks today are far less "white" now than they were in the days of Plato and Aristotle.
Brayden Flores
modern Greeks are mongrels.
Ancient Greeks were closer to Gheg Albanians that are 100% European today
Albanians make other Southern “Europeans” look like bitch niggers >Albanian is now known to have been the first language of Europe, before Latin >known for big swords back in the Roman Empire, friendly and attractive people get the job done (30% of British people have Albanian DNA) >even christcucks have something for their liking - Skenderbeg knighted by Pope, awarded Christianias Ameritus or some shit for single handedly stopping Europe bell getting blacked & creating modern Albania >the fiercest fighters when it comes to pride >if you are friends with them they will kill for you >ask any woman in Europe which men have the most respect for women and they will all say Albanian >can blend in almost any White country due to ability to learn foreign European languages 2x faster than any other race because Albanian was the first language of Europe (also explains why there are so many Worldwide Albanian professional translators and linguists comparative to the tiny amount of population vs other countries) >anytime you are this strong all other males will hate >bigger balls than every other race combined (see Shkreli, honour killings and blood feuds) >Napoleon came from Albanian clan in Italy >Albanian enclave run the Ottoman Empire >Albanians were to enshrine independence in the Balkans >Kemal Ataturk was Albanian >Albanians were the main source of elite Prussian cavalry
check history before any newfags try to tell me Albanians didnt single handedly stop Europe from getting mixed from Ottomans
NONE of roaches shitposting ablut Albania will ever come out with a public statement against Albania IRL - they will simply be killed
Albanians took the hardest blow and we owe these people a debt of gratitude. “Greeks” on the other hand deserve death for marrying armenians, turks and gypsies under orthodox blessing
Mate look at it this way: >Turks invade. >Massive rapebaby boom. >Turks then tax the balls off the rapebabies because they are Christian but no longer rape as often. >Rapebaby population gradually gets raped by other groups leaving few with Turk Y DNA but still a majority of the total DNA. If you're a Christian dude in a poorly run Islamic caliphate are you going to have your daughter marry Hu Turk son of Turk or Astropopeles? By giving partial autonomy to the Greeks the rapebabies lost power and were reduced to a female lineage which combined with the fact that they are rape babies resulted in near zero Turkic XY lineage despite many other traits being extremely close to Turk.
It's like how Ireland has barely any Y lineage. The 'sexual freedom' of women for the last few millennia and the increase of powerful Norman/English/Scottish lords has left Ireland as one of the most cuckolded countries of all time.
Andrew James
nobody is interested in your fantasies and contorted explanations without any shred of evidence mate whatever Y-DNA similarity(or mtDNA as well) exists between the two populations, doesn't seem to have much to do with a medieval input from Turks
Anatolia and Greece share a genetic link since the stone age all the way to the Byzantine period, to think the similarity is all having to with Turks, an empire known for its rather lax policies in terms of administration of their subjects, is straight up insane
Whether the Turks actually originated from Central Asia is another matter entirely. I'm talking about the similarities between modern Turks and modern Greeks.
William Moore
Ahahahaha Greeks! >42% white
Daniel Powell
Oi! Bin that reasoning mate, right there’s grounds for 6 months in the slamma. Maybe them black blokes’ll do you some good when they fuck your arse.
Joshua Fisher
of course there are similarities, point is that you'd find essentially the same similarity before Turks even conquered Anatolia, because Anatolia and Greece share an extremely long past, way beyond Turkish history the fact that I have to point out such obvious shit says alot
Leo Rogers
>Greek people are not huwhite Austria’s greatest conductor, Herbert Von Karajan, was of Greek descent.
“White” people are what we say they are. Live with it.
>Austria’s greatest conductor, Herbert Von Karajan, was of Greek descent. We Wuz. By far another proof that southern nonwhiteoid roaches can’t survive for shit in their own shithole and need to crawl to White European area to leech
Brayden Myers
They were both similar in both cases yet you're ignoring the difference between modern greek/anatolians and ancient greek/anatolians. If they are genetically dissimilar compared to the ancient groups it doesn't matter if they have maintained a similar genetic difference between the two groups. For example England and Scotland had similar genetic profiles in Roman times. Nowadays you see the same thing. However modern British people are primarily Germanic while ancient British people were Celtic. Of course I'm talking about Lowland Scots with this example. Highland Scots remain similar to their ancient Celtic heritage.
Anthony Allen
>people all over the world speak our language and read or books >have no culture
go back to your shithole pedophile goat-fucker.
Daniel Wood
>They were both similar in both cases yet you're ignoring the difference between modern greek/anatolians and ancient greek/anatolians. I'm not ignoring anything, there's ancient DNA from the area, and Greeks differ from bronze age Greeks largely because of more steppe ancestry and dilution of anatolia neolithic ancestry, nothing about it suggests this difference has to do with Turks
in fact, iron age Greece and Anatolia were probably closer to each other than modern Greeks and Turks are
Cooper Perry
It's fine, we are not huwhite.
Now if you would be so kind as to stop using our lexicon and we can go our seperate ways.
I will not even prohibit you from making use of greek mathematics, physics, astronomy, philosophy and philology, as well as arts. Just stop using greek words and that can be our official breakup.
Best of luck in your future endeavors.
Adam James
can't understand why these parasites can't stick to their own history and achievements and have this obsession with us
white = Germanics, there, solved it
Charles Davis
This fucking board is obsessed. Greece, being a tiny country with a plethora of problems, irrelevant in the world stage, yet these mouthbreathers need to make several threads about our "whiteness" daily.
I am tired of it.
Hudson Clark
>our >Iranian-Armenian-Ethiopian bastards claims anything after Alexander the Great as his own Begone
These barbarians are almost spiritually empty as the asians, their soul is closer to animals than humans. The only thing they are good for is slavery and war.
Nathaniel Cox
OBSESSED when will whitoids learn?
Noah Cooper
Germanics won. Everyone else got trashed. Deal with it.
Henry Turner
>Germanics won oh it shows, took you little to drive Europe to the ground
Really ? you know who really controls you white trash.
Carson Clark
Saying "the greeks" doesn't recognize that there was a higher class and a lower class in greek civilization.
Similarly in italy, if you take the whole thing as an average it's going to hide the fact that italy was made up of different peoples. (One of them more european,one of them less european).
Blake Allen
Austrians don’t accept Von Karajan?
You’ve never been to Vienna.
Bentley Garcia
Now this is the face of Iranian-Ethiopian-Armenoid subhumans that modern Greeks are
That's why hitler was dealthy embarrassed about germany's lack of culture and said so in many occassions.
We have an epidemic of children spraying 2000 year old ruins with graffiti. We have so many of 2 millennia monuments that we hardly register them. Meanwhile, white people safekeep trinkets from the 1800s, and consider them ancient.
There's an insurmountable chasm between our peoples.
Do string quartets ever become popular without the advancements of the Italians?
Tyler Martinez
I'm sure that has nothing to do with the fact that Greece hasn't produced anything in the last 2000 years.
Ayden Walker
>"The smallest palazzo in Florence ... is worth more than all Windsor Castle. If the English destroy anything in Florence or Rome, it will be a crime. In Moscow, it wouldn't do any great harm; nor in Berlin, unfortunately."
Juan Garcia
Greek Y-chromosomes changed with the expansion of Islam and the Ottoman Turks. Ancient Greeks were mostly I2, R1b, and R1a.
Carson Sanchez
kike
Daniel Ortiz
You seem to infer that byzantium wasn't a marriage of roman and greek culture. Unsightly.
Even my name is that of a Byzantine emperror.
Ryan Russell
>Ancient Greeks were mostly I2, R1b, and R1a. >nearly all minoans and mycenaeans samples found were J2
>Have face trodden on. >We are in it together! Sad.
Brody Scott
don't know m8, not my kind of music
Christopher Morgan
The whole of europe was hellenized during that time, the roman empire was no exception. After the death of alexander there was strife and civir wars between his 4 generals and their armies, most city-states embraced the romans as saviors. Our cultures were so similar and our relationships had been so good that it was an amicable relationship. We gave them our pantheon, our science, our festivals, our art.
There's a reason it's called the hellenistic period. Romans and Greeks have been compatriots for 2200 years.
Luis Lopez
Hu white are literally aryans the builders of the ancient world Yamna dna is aryan From india iran xingiang in china ...all the founders of the ancient world
"The ancient Mycenaeans and Minoans were most closely related to each other, and they both got three-quarters of their DNA from early farmers who lived in Greece and southwestern Anatolia, which is now part of Turkey, the team reports today in Nature. Both cultures additionally inherited DNA from people from the eastern Caucasus, near modern-day Iran, suggesting an early migration of people from the east after the early farmers settled there but before Mycenaeans split from Minoans.
The Mycenaeans did have an important difference: They had some DNA—4% to 16%—from northern ancestors who came from Eastern Europe or Siberia. This suggests that a second wave of people from the Eurasian steppe came to mainland Greece by way of Eastern Europe or Armenia, but didn’t reach Crete, says Iosif Lazaridis, a population geneticist at Harvard University who co-led the study."
Reread your article, Armenian monkey. It clearly states that modern Greeks are mutts.
Ain’t Gheg, ain’t Hellenic
Landon Turner
steppe people were pretty much the mongols of prehistory, a nomadic people who had a military edge, particularly close to the territories more favorable to them i.e the open steppes, that imposed themselves over the already civilized locals, but essentially also extensively mixing with them, especially where the locals were much more, and perhaps not so easily submitted which isn't even surprising, kinship for ancients was essentially based on patrilocality, not "autosome-locality", by mixing with local women they diluted their steppe ancestry since the beginning
there's an R1b Yamnaya male found in bronze age Bulgaria who was already quite mixed with balkan farmers, and may have been a remote ancestor of the first proto-Hellenes
Thomas Gray
He also chose to exterminate you roaches and Albanians helped Germans good in that pursuit
Actual Gheg Albanians have fine sharp cut facial feuatures you see on Hellenic and Illyrian statues, if we leave all the genetic data behind. All Greeks look like deformed Armenian shitskins and Iranian Arabs
