Thread for discussion of Italian Fascism, and other forms of fascism, Mosley, Codreanu, Falange, etc. Also for sharing fascist literature and information.
A Fascist general for Fascists and those interested
Be respectful and please try to keep conversations relatively "intellectual"
Good fascists/similar or influential people to get an introduction Oswald Mosely Jose Antonio Primo de Rivera Benito Mussolini Adolf Hitler Corneliu Zelea Codreanu Salazar Ramiro Ledesma Ramos Ettore Ovazza Gaetano Mosca Friedrich Nietzsche Charles Maurras Enrico Corradini Filippo Tommaso Marinetti Johann Plenge Alceste De Ambris Gabriele d'Annunzio George Lincoln Rockwell Juan Perón Giovanni Gentile Julius Evola
Types of Fascism Italian Falangism National-Syndicalism British Union National-Socialism Strasserism Meme futurism Clerical Fascism Brazilian Integralism Peronism
the discussion of baathism national Bolshevism Third International Theory and the 4th political theory is also allowed
“Fascism means first of all defending your nation against the dangers that threaten it. It means the destruction of these dangers and the opening of a free way to life and glory for your nation.” -Corneliu Codreanu
Opinions on Mosley and his high amount of support among early feminists? I think it was because ambitious women saw it as a way to gain power in government.
As Hitler said, women should not belong to politics, they should be protected from the horrors that happen in parliament, the corruption that strangles the people working there and all the madness that one can witness.
It's tempting, mate. It really is. I didn't exactly choose to leave in the first place, which i'm guessing you know if you found me here. I might be able to change that in a couple of weeks, though. I'm getting out of the country to visit family.
Brayden Cook
Rockwellian National Socialism is only really for Germanic Americans, but Rockwell’s ideas ok balkinizing the USA so blacks and whites could have separate ethno state homelands was brilliant.
"The thought is sad; only the action is joyful. The child is joyful because it is in action to grow; the adult is sad because it is due to thinking. " - Plínio Salgado
The US would be in a much better situation with him in charge. I believe he was in favor of helping them to immigrate back to Africa.
Henry Miller
He also agreed with Malcom X about an ethno state within the states for the negro separate from the white man’s own ethno state.
Ethan Diaz
Hey bong! Long time no see, how's everything going? Leaving the /sweg/ movement for a while? Mind give away ownership of the server while you're gone so we can continue managing the struggle? You're welcome back any day.
Hi, joe. I take it somebody found the thread yesterday? At this point, it's mainly just paanoia keeping me back. I'm not even in the same city it happened at the moment, but I don't know how close of an eye they keep on 'radicals'. In 2 weeks, though, I'll be out of the country. In the meantime, looking over the most active users, consider the server yours.
Thanks, mate. If I can, then you'll see me on August 4th.
Liam Thompson
>At this point, it's mainly just paanoia keeping me back. I feel this is unnecessary since the UK is totally in shit and checking a shitposter is the last thing the would do
Yea based pajeet found one of your threads, we have been missing you. We're trying to get some routines for posting threads here like you did but we've been quite busy lately. Hopefully you'll see the threads poping up soon. Everyone from the server says hi. Hope you manage to handle everything in your private life and we'll see you soon!
Great post. The fact is Libertarianism is an ideology for honest western men, but it can only flourish is a nation that is free from the influence of the parasite.
I am somewhat ignorant in regards of fascism. I know it is derived from the latin word fascis -probably spelt it wrong- meaning a bundle of sticks. The symbolism meaning that weak individual sticks are stronger together. So my question is how does this type of collectivism distinguish itself from Marxist socialism and national socialism and how is it superior to individualism.
Hello everybody, Christian Fascist here. I dont mind discussing ideas I, more or less, believe in Theocracy of the fascist variety
Dylan Perez
retard larper degenerates, this movement is dead
Chase Wood
GLR is my hero
Brody Moore
You're a fucking idiot
Matthew Baker
National socialism is a branch of Fascism, the German third position. They both differ from Marxist Socialists in that Marxist Socialists prize social equality, where Fascists recognise that human beings have a natural hierachy based on ability. Marxist socialists are also internationalists, beleiving Nationalism to be a social construct and a hurdle to mankind's "progression". Whereas Fascists recognise the importance of community, and the innate preferrence for the folk in all races of mankind. To put it simply, Marxism is an ideological means of reorganising mankind to fulfill philosophial principls. Fascism is the practical applicaion of the natural order. It's superior to individualism for the same reasons the symbolism of the fasces would imply- we are easily broken individually, but far stronger together. The concept of the tribe was not invented; it's how mankind evolved, to rely on & provide for the community.
Jacob Ortiz
Hardly, right-wing populism is on the rise, governments continue to centralize and people are radicalizing, and we've already got fascist friends in China and the Philippines.
China might be heading that way, but it's being dragged there slowly, kicking and screaming, against the will of it's marxism-indoctrinated hardliners (I.E it's military). The old Communist government will have to collapse before we get a system that we could comfortably call Fascist in China.
So fascism and nat socialism is kind of a comprimise between individualism and marxism because it values the collective but it also values individual merit? My main problem with Marxist socialism that they dont believe in merit and they reward the competent and incompetent equally which destroys incentive. Fascism avoids this by rewarding merit?
Jayden Ortiz
You’ve got the right idea. Also, a nation that’s more socially traditional. Nice pic btw
Chase Thompson
Rule of Law.
How to make sure this core western principle does not give away to despotism under fascism? A strong, clear legal code even if strongly authoritarian that is easily understood and leaves not much room for arbitrary decisions or by the executive, or hidden rules that impact commoners but are only known by people in the higher hierachies seems so very important in order not to degenerate into 08/15 dictatorship. Talking about laws is boring, but it needs to be kept in mind by the proponents of a totalitarian state.
Eli Hernandez
Legitimate question guys, how does one dress and groom fash?
“Communism is a dream. Socialism is a program. Fascism is aesthetics”—-Leon Blum
Fascism is the aesthetization of politics and the politization of aesthetics. A fascist should dress in a manner that embodies fascist virtues: masculinity, discipline, hierarchy, tradition, and self sacrifice. The look must be austere but also eye-catching, since your politics are your fashion and vice-versa. You can’t go wrong with black, but will want to stay away from Goth. Goth is a fashion statement that conveys alienation and despair. You want a black look that symbolizes your identification with totalitarianism, including in dress. Even if you don’t belong to a fascist group, make people think you do. Fascism is organized violence, as music is organized noise.
God, I butchered your language right there, sorry.
For me the political and economical system are secondary, the genetic foundation of the nations have a huge impact in determine its success. Also to keep traditional values and be explicit exclusionary of other groups.
I guess this makes sense, Stalin was the one that was antigun, but he also didnt get rid of the state.
My main gripe with marxist socialism and communism is it destroys incentive by rewarding the competent and incompetent equally. Im an engineer, and id like to think a fairly competent one, but I wouldnt work half as hard if i got paid the same as some of these retards in my field. How does communism adress this problem?
People like to think that Libertarianism is the system for honest good natured men because Libertarianism is a romanticized idealistic fantasy. We'd all love to believe that simply being a good neighbor is enough to have a prosperous and peaceful society. Mind your own business, no one has to tell anyone what to do, everyone obeys laws in public, etc. Unfortunately this is at odds with human nature.
Fascism isn't sitting between Marxian Socialism and Individualism. The element of Socialism comes from a willingness to support your own people. Marx is in favor of radical egalitarianism, in effect believed that race didn't matter, and social class was the only thing stifling progress towards his strange utopia. This notion that Individual and Collectivism are diametrically opposed is an entirely modern narrative. You see Jordan Peterson pushing this idea, the CivNats on reddit push this idea, Libertarians on the modern era are proponents as well. Reality is that there is no such division, these two aspects have to coexist in harmony. Fascism exists here, in a place outside of any political dogma, because it deals with concepts at their root.
A collective can only exist and thrive when individuals have a strong sense of individual identity, and have a degree of individual identity. When they willingly contribute to the system. The individual can only exist when supported by a collective. When society affords him the opportunity and security to pursue venues of self improvement, the ability to engage in a market and earn profit, to climb the social ladder. Its a duality where both are needed, and not in competition. Fascism is called a philosophy and complete worldview because it comes before any specific political ideals.
Fascism exist to enforce what is nature, it is only neede when the unaturel become the norm, and it only happend under the influence of forces that are alien to the traditional western way of life. Men of good nature do not need the force of the state to produce good families, lives prosperous lifes and be of help to their community. Libertarian do believe in hierarchy, someone will tell other what to do, and destructive members of society get the boot.
> The individual can only exist when supported by a collective. This is where I disagree. The difference Im trying to point out between individualism and collectivism is that in collectivism the individual relies on the community, whereas im individualism the community relies on the individuals. But I see what you are saying, its more of a symbiotic relationship which is what I was trying to outline in my comprimise comment from earlier. But I fundamentally disagree with the notion that the individual needs a community to survive.
Camden Cook
> I forgot to press enter Im retarded only the first sentence was suppose to be a quote
You may have communities that relie on their individuals and not the other way around. But these tend to get blown the fuck out by those who act the other way, look at the study, libertarianism is a very american idea as only your land (any maybe latin america) can work from a position of a monoculture that is sheltered by geography and was erected on a blank slate. You sadly spoil this by importing more and more tribals from eurasia. I believe Canada will be the first to break down into oldworld ethnic camps such as indic, somali and east asian peoples to the point it will destroy the american ways of its governance.
Kayden Hall
I am a libertarian Im just here to learn. Pre 1913 united states is my ideal society.
Sebastian Clark
An individual in the rawest sense, the most individualistic individual, is an antisocial hermit. Without other people, without a society, an individual person is nothing. Show me a society where there is no sense of a shared duty, where there is no common bond between the people, and I'll show you a hell hole of squalor and vice. If the individual has no duties beyond himself then he has nothing in life aside from hedonism and egoism. Human beings are social creatures, we have a social element to our existence that can't be ignored, and that means we share responsibility for each other in some capacity, and it extends beyond simple familial ties.
Nathaniel Richardson
It is frustrating that all these people migrate from primarily latin american countries that have these huge currupt socialist dictatorships and then try to turn the US into the same state they fled.
Carter Scott
except it is a jewish plot to subvert all nations and control the world. in the end you are worse off than you were before. show your flag kike.