NEETS

This is not a Japanese exclusive problem as everyone seems to think. This is a worldwide phenomenon. How many of you here feel trapped and crushed? Who is to blame? What's the cure to crippling loneliness?

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lack of struggle plus too many temptations and distractions in life leads to poor sexual ambition.

hello to you too, wagie.
i see your getting all riled up once again because its already Sunday and your all too short weekend of relaxation between straight five-day sessions of slaving for Shekelstein.
i don't dislike you, that's definitely not it at all. i actually appreciate what you do, since i wouldn't be able to make my own living if you didn't pay your taxes.. thanks for that, wagie.
my advice for you is to leave the internet for the remainder of the day since you need to rest all you can before heading out to work early tomorrow morning.
it's what, 12 hours left until you clock in tomorrow morning, right? don't get all worked up now when you still have an evening of free time!
i, however, will read the newly published love live anthologies and doujins over at dynasty-scans now, and probably watch a few episodes of anime because i don't have to worry about what time i wake up tomorrow.
don't hate us, wagie, we're just a necessary entity because of the high taxes, who else would spend all that tax money i wonder...
ganbatte ne

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>Who is to blame?
>feel trapped and crushed?
It happened awhile ago, i was working, had friends, all that. Then everything just seemed off. I kept repeating in my head ''I want to go home''
But I don't know what home is(im not talking about Europe or Race)

it's nearly impossible to explain. Pure utter hopelessness. Everything seems off, like I'm in a dream.

The solution MIGHT be jobs.

I personally believe it has more to do with depression.
Though there are neets who enjoy it, I imagine they are a minority. Having no purpose is not fun.

No, the problem is a lack of motivation for the future. Why work when your tax dollars go to niggers being paid to replace you.

Real American NEET here

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neet:ism is a direct effect of capitalism and automation removing most of the no-effort jobs from the local vicinity i think
it's not a bad thing really, and it's preferable to the alternatives
it's just that some people aren't strong enough to create their own purpose in life and that's why you see the "hiki epidemic" as you may call it
wait until normie-tier jobs get automated and you will see this shit escalate to new hights
a normie has never known the kind of loneliness and hopelessness that most of us neets have lived with
it's necessary to actually keep you from from being reduced to what is basically a state of infancy where those people just waste away
normals will into drugs and other types of lifeless activities that offer a temporary escape once they are unemployable, why do you think marijuana is being legalized left and right right now? its a preparation, to keep most of the future involuntary neet population from going straight to the heavy stuff
the neet dream that exists right now is not going to last. wait until normals are dying around the civilized globe and you will see mandatory employment programs and other shit that will again imprison the people under those that created it

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NEET of about 7 years here.
I never had big ambitions. I did well enough in school (not straight As but mostly As) but I didn't apply myself. The only dream job I ever had was "inventor" like Gyro Gearloose when I was very young . But then I got older and realized that's not really a profession, it's something people do on the side. So that was that.
Then I graduated and didn't know what to do, so naturally I did nothing. Told my mother I needed time to figure stuff out. The months passed and turned into years and eventually she made me get a part time job. Well and that experience just really drove home that I fucking hate work. I hate getting up in the morning. I hate commitment. I hate responsiblity. I don't think I'm lazy, my boss at the time loved me because I did what I was told without slacking or complaining, I just hated doing it and simply worked hard to get it over with.
So given the fact that like I said I have no ambition and am very easily pleased, why wouldn't I want to be a NEET? Welfare gives me a roof over my head, food, electricity and internet and that's all I really need.

So what is to blame? For me, just myself. I personally don't blame anyone or anything, it's just the way I am. I always knew the working world sucks, I remember when graduation was coming up and everyone was exicted to "get their life started" I was just bummed out because the comfy days of like 4 hour "work" aka dozing through class and vacations for half the year were coming to an end.

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duh, fucking annoying ''leftists''

Don't you have some protest to go to where you spew liberal democratic talking points while ironically wearing a hammer and sickle shirt? Fuck off, none of you are even leftists. Useless idiots

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I was NEET for 15 years
Been working for 2 years and it's absolute shit.

All I do is wake up, go to work, get home, shitpost, masturbate, go to sleep. No GF, no friends. I have no joy.

At least when I was NEET I had joy, no stress, read books, play vidya, learn a new language, learn an instrument, fuck I was so happy.

Goddamn shit life this is now

Absolute drudgery. If I had any courage I would rope myself.

there's a story behind each person that ends up like this, but overall it's definitely symptomatic of an illness, i mean, of a society.
its hard to know where to begin when i think about explaining my situation to others too. to convey the real truth of it, maybe even impossible.
maybe there's something about certain sensibilities of certain people, there's something that just doesn't mesh with today, so they retract fully.

sad
wasted potential often

in a different time, these types would've thrived, but its pointless to wish or dream, adapt or die, just the way it is.

>he cant into reading comprehension
consider ending it, reddit

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Damn, reading this post is like looking into a mirror.

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>census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2014/cb14-130.html
>The U.S. Census Bureau reported today that 74 percent of those who have a bachelor's degree in science, technology, engineering and math — commonly referred to as STEM — are not employed in STEM occupations.

Bring back real jobs. We've gone from a high school degree guaranteeing a career that could support a family to a four year STEM degree having a 3/4 chance of being useless.

It’s because the West has no purpose. They are replacing us. It’s why I almost think a rebellion led by us wouldn’t be so bad - what’s to lose? Why not go out in glory like our forefathers in WW2 (on both sides). We need something to fight for. Men always do.

Been living alone since I turned 18. I'll be 24 next month. None to really blame but myself but I don't mind the loneliness. It is unethical though and I have plans.

Honestly the only thing that makes me feel somewhat trapped is all the support for being a useless NEET. It's like a perfectly acceptable lifestyle when it certainly should not be.

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>I never had big ambitions

stop watching so much porn

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the problem is conformity, nobody bats an eye when these people are called "monks" instead of "NEETs". japs landed in the future and had no pla for it

the problem is conformity, nobody bats an eye when these people are called "monks" instead of "NEETs". japs landed in the future and had no plan for it

Based and redpilled.

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Mate I didn't have ambition before I even knew what porn is.

>what is the cure to crippling loneliness

work with kids, get some sun, get your health in order

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I made this quickly in photoshop years ago to shitpost, what the fuck.

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life is about knowing the most shortcuts I'm just waiting for mine
thinking of just knocking up some rich girl and becoming a stay at home dad

why not go exploring, dig through shit people are throwing away, make things out of it, sell it then use your money to research things you can invent?

think of them like fetch and crafting quests!

>mfw my only ambitions is to wake up wait till afternoon and jack off once or twice

lyvin da lyfe

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Because I don't know anything about anything. Also no inspiration.

I reclused for 8 years after a long-term relationship from age 16-24 ended. AMA...

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I'm 30, NEET and never had a real job in my life. I'm gonna leech off my parents who don't give a fuck until they die and they live a meager frugal permavirgin NEET existence.

Honestly I'm mostly holding out for UBI and UHC though, hopefully that will come sooner rather than later.

Seriously though, imagine the dumb wagies having to get up at 7am and commute to work for Mr. Shekelstein every single day without even getting benefits, or working multiple part time jobs, kek!

I literally do whatever I want whenever I want every single day. I wake up at 10-10:30, no alarm needed. I exercise nearly every day for as long as I want, sometimes not at all. I can play vidya whenever I want or engage in my other hobby of scale modelling all day and have no obligations whatsoever. I clean up after myself, I'm organized not messy.

Can't even imagine what it's like to be a wagecuck, I've only ever known the NEET life. The only job I ever had was teaching snowboarding when I was a teenager for a few months for 2 years. That's literally it. Even then I only took that job because I wanted a free pass to snowboard at the mountain whenever I wanted which they give their employees.

If you've gotten A's without much effort, felt little motivation and stuck in patterns or loops that felt "normal" to others around you (like working hard to get it over with), you might enjoy a book called "Outliers" by Malcolm Gladwell. It kind of got me out of my stagnant rut; maybe it will for you as well.

I'm too lazy to even go into the effort needed to get a job. It's too much work, especially when you're a NEET and have zero job experience, nothing to write on a resume. No one would ever hire me anyways, for any job.

I've been a NEET for two years and it was the worst period of my life. Humans are not meant to be inactive and apathetic. If you are intelligent and skilled you are wasting your potential. People like you have no future, nothing to build, nothing to pass to the next generation, not even your genes. The negro and the jew will inherit the earth because the aryan gave up at the struggle called "life". And that's a huge problem.

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>putting effort and time into a world thats trying to destroy my people and all forms of decency
>putting effort and time into a world where any woman i pick up has already had 5+ partners so i can't even seclude myself with a decent family and enjoy life
eat shit, if you want to feed into the jews fucking genocide scheme thats on you but i refuse.

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I've been NEET for like 8 years. I can't stand it.

I dunno what happened really. I had real bad social anxiety though, but I had friends, as I got into my 20s it became harder and harder to make friends. I felt I had 2 heads or something the way people reacted to me when meeting me.
Now I NEET it up, lift weights, bike a couple hours a day.
I actually have interests I could turn into a profession but there is some invisible force that seems to prevent me from doing it, and gigantic alterations in energy and mood.

Doctors and therapists are all completely worthless and I think they are all frauds.

>Gave up
being subverted and literally destroyed from the inside isn't giving up its being subverted and destroyed from the inside you dumb muslim fuck.

So you are implying you, and neets in general, are dumb and weak, therefore can't find a job?

How can anyone not see this as fraud being perpetrated on helpless people?

Wouldn't anyone with half a brain see all these drugs pumped into these people, which do absolutely nothing for them, as something that is fraudulent?

It's like this for every NEET. NEETs are used as a paycheck by doctors/mental health professionals. Thats it. There is no intent to help them.

Doctors should be gassed.

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My year and a half of being a NEET was the best time of my life. I don't know what the fuck idiots like are talking about. I actually got to ENJOY life during that time, go on bike trips, learn cooking and play vidya/watch anime/browse Jow Forums all day. Did some creative gamedev-ish work, too. It was fun! I'd gladly live my entire like like that.

I think people understand, on a fundamental level, that wageslavery is unjust and is basically throwing your life away for nothing. You have to keep constructing these increasingly convoluted rhetorical spins to keep justifying it and your hatred of NEETs who, objectively speaking, live more fulfilling lives.

It's a major reason why I'm economically left-wing. Because fuck "virtue" and "grit" and all the petit bourgeois bullshit - I want free shit and I want less wage work. If you are working class and oppose this you are nothing short of an economicuck. No matter how hard you push it to the back of your mind, the basic acknowledgement that you are literally killing yourself for some kike's profits will remain within you.

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>invisible force
this is exactly what i feel too.
I had so many plans to change things to the better, I had goals I wanted to achieve. But no matter how much effort I put into or want to put in - something always prevents me from doing so.

>A jew writing about "work"

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Quiet, scum. Get back to work. Mr. Shekelstein's fifth yacht won't fund itself, you know!

I think there must be something wrong with me. I used to be a NEET and got depressed because of it - but when i started working my depression went away over the space of about two months and i liked working even though the job itself is shitty. Maybe it's the wage, i only work part time while studying at university but i'm making £15 an hour ($18 and hour) so maybe higher wages are the cure to NEET's - but with higher wages means companies will fire people to compensate for profit loss :(

I don't know how the hardcore Capitalists on here can defend everything that's happening with our economies:

>Rising house prices
>Wages stagnating
>Rich getting richer
>Shit job market

kind of hard to have a future when it was stolen from you and your country men before birth. if everybody plans to go out and die to dismantle the system then alright cool, I think many folks would join them on a global and epic scale, but other than that there isn't much else to do and many people would rather check out while forcing their system to rupture by cashing in on the invisible fairy tale money they print.

Only way to cause an uprising is to force the feds to print so much invisible paper that their entire welfare system collapses showing the country ran out of resources a long time ago. The veil will finally lift and the people will act.

>dumb and weak
yes and no i guess, i see a mix between ambition, ability, and availability
i dont want to work but i guess i wouldnt mind if it was something i would enjoy doing
i cant apply to half of all jobs because i dont have the education
i dont want to work jobs where i interact with loads of people because i cant be bothered
and the remaining jobs that i could see myself enjoying are either saturated, taken, or (being) automated to various degrees

>I don't know how the hardcore Capitalists on here can defend everything that's happening with our economies
Simple: It does not affect them.

Its a strange feeling. Its not laziness, or doubt, or fear. It feels kind of like it has to do with those things but its not. There is some weird mental blockage that occurs.
And the weird thing is you know its there, and sometimes you just get on with it and do what you are wanting to do, and you feel good doing it and it is actually quite easy, and all that invisible force was by far the worst part of it.

But then you don't remember anything about the sense of accomplishment you have after you have done it. You did have that sense, but there is no retention of it or any recollection of it that can help you do it again in the future.


FUCK CAPTCHAS
FUCK GOOGLE

Forgot to change your flag Goldberg

I'm starting to think this. Ever since getting the job i have become for economically left from my experience. I used to think the people working in these jobs were 'lazy' - but from working with them they are really smart and hard working people while the business owner i have to report to just sits there most of the time.

>I don't know how the hardcore Capitalists on here can defend everything that's happening with our economies
Also, it is worth remembering that some 80% of lolbritarians/ancaps around Jow Forums are highschool-age.
Ironically, for all their posturing, it is THEY who "don't know how the real world works". They drink in the Ayn Randian kool-aid and swallow reductive and two-dimensional econ 101 models that demonstrate how "effective" the free market is. They don't actually know how fucking awful it is to hold a job, how soulcrushing and alienating life can get, how much you get fucked by big corporations every single day and just how hard it is to really "get ahead" if you haven't been set on a good course by your middle class parents.

Been a 'neet' for a few months at a time, in between jobs when there was none avaible. First three weeks are great, I enjoy spending time on the computer. Programming and playing video games mostly. But after the honeymoon period you start thinking about your life and what you want to accomplish and what should have accomplished. You get depressed and start arguing with friends/relatives about silly minor things.

Last stretch of a few months I had i got in to an argument with my parents about me being awake all night. (I was in between two jobs so to me if I wanted to spend the nights playing videogames while I waited for my next job to start was perfectly reasonable) Anyways, they told me to move out. Found a fulltime job (finally, but its not in my country) and went ahead with the interview and everything went good.

Moving there by the end of this year, never felt more happier about anything in my life. Finally I can start living my own life even though its not in the country I hoped for.

Going to start saving up to buy an appartment, and a trip to the US. Feels good man.

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The reason is simple, fellow anons. Men, and the part of their brains responsible for risk-benefit assessment are surveying today's socioeconomical climate and are deducing, en masse and on a nearly global scale (in particularly developed nations anyway), that the benefits are not worth the risk and/or effort.

Reason for that? That's the million dorrah question now, isn't it?

>middle class
That still exists?

Yeah, this is also my own experience and my little circle of """friends""".
We all used to be pretty libertarian-ish in highschool, but as soon as we got out of the army reality just hits you like a sack of bricks to the face. Those who stayed around in college had this realization later than others.

I used to look down upon people who stay and serve in the army as their career, but honestly civilian employment is even worse than army life. It's just shit, and unlike the army you can't think ahead to "oh just X more months and I'm out". You're not out until you're 65 years old (and the bastards want to increase the retirement age now, too. Slave away to the grave, plebs!).

i was a neet until a week ago. started a job and i am going to save like a kike and invest it all. once enough is saved to where i generate enough to live with around 2k/month income from investment i will quit job/work like shit until im fired and neet out for the rest of my life unless something makes life worth working for.

:(

I kind of have hope for the future though as Capitalism wont last forever due to automation and the rise of Socialist ideals in the west. I'm not a full blown Socialist i just think Capitalism golden yeas are over.

You NEETs are useful idiots. Lay around like passive pussies and consuming media and products like a good boy. It's hilarious to see the mental gymnastics here. You'll shitpost all day about 3rd world migration, pajeets getting visas, and declining white population and families. No shit sherlock guess what you're doing: not getting jobs so the ((corporations)) can justify hiring immigrants and not having the financial ability to support and raise a family. Fucking morons you then wonder why your white women are leaving your sorry asses. Wake the fuck up. Even with a job, this has been the comfiest life has ever been. Air conditioning, refrigeration, cars, etc. make life more comfy. Most of human existence was working 12 hours on farms, hunting animals where even a scratch or a cold could be your demise. Stop being such complacent bitches and get a move on with your life. Sure wagecucking can suck, but you'll never be able to have a wife, family, or money to afford things you're interested in if you just sulk around the house smoking weed, playing vidya, and shitposting in your nihilistic existence. This is why long-term welfare needs to be abolished. If you don't get off your ass, then you should be forced to volunteer or go into military service. Society is fucked enough to not have the "ubermensch" neets dragging it down further.

>ambition, ability, and availability
This seems to breake down to comfort.
Neet, and i am kind of a neet too, want to gain laurels without puting any effort into it. Everyone is seeking for the "perfect" job, which in reality doesn't exist. We have to leave our comfort zone and do things that may be not as pleasant as we would imagine it in our utopia.
Maybe we are too spoiled.

not to scare you bro but desu that kinda sounds like you've got a dissociative personality disorder

Have you actually looked over the details of your "plan"?
I had the same idea for a while, but the amount of capital you need to achieve this is, at least in Israel, ludicrous.
Like a good 2,000,000 shekels just to have the equivalent of monthly minimal wage in dividends. And that's assuming one of the riskier, stock-based plans.

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this has nothing to do with this thread
you had parents with enough sense to give you direction, you had a marketable skill, and you were only unemployed for a couple months

you are reddit tier

>Its not laziness, or doubt, or fear.
>There is some weird mental blockage that occurs.
Can totally relate. Even small things, which wouldn't take much time to accomplish, are becoming time consuming tasks because of this mental blockage. I tried to figure out what was causing it, but didn't succeed.

The only time i felt "free" was, when I did i small experiment with myself.
I concluded, that lack of social life and/or excess of information was causing this problem. Or to be more precisely: excess of internet (social media, porn, music, mobile phone) and other electronic gadgets.
So i started to abstain from all of it - I cut my internet, removed the battery from my phone, didnt watch porn etc.
Just after a few days I started to become very productive, after a week I felt great.

Unfortunately, I had to use the computer again and the whole crap began again, the mental blockage etc.
Don't know if it was just a placebo, when I had no access to the internet, but I would try it again. Maybe it is indeed one part of the problem.,

I wish I had your optimism. Life in Israel gets more and more shit and hard for working folk, and yet our politics, both rhetorically and in action, get only more economically right-wing-ish, laissez faire and brutish and neoliberal over the years.
I hope to god Comrade Corbyn wins in the UK and some socialist demagogue takes over the USA. This zeitgeist needs to stop.

greentext?
too relatable

> this has nothing to do with this thread

Yes it does? my whole point to the story is that you need a push from relatives/friends to get out of the hole.

> and you were only unemployed for a couple months

Unemployed in multiple periods of a couple months, in the duration of 2.5 years.

Is this a refined, high quality boomer post?

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Im 6 months away from paying off my 2 bedroom cuck shack. I'll be out of this wagie hell forever. Feels good man.

>Who is to blame?

The state and its distribution of free shit

high iq post

when not having gf becomes better than having gf, or when getting gf is more work than the reward is worth, than the gf meme slowly dies out and feminist society will call men incels for not being slave to gf meme

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get it Norbro

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Meh, I'm 10 years in the military
10 more years and I get 2k a month and paid healthcare.

Gonna go work on container ships doing 3 two month contracts a year.

3A/E makes about 120k a year but goyimses and faggots in general are too scared to leave home.

I was doing good. Finally made it outside, I had a job, I was exercising 5 days a week. Tried to OD, ended up in a psych ward. Experiences in the hospital have turned me back into a full blown agoraphobe.

I was lucky enough to have someone help me get out of my NEET-phase the first time. This time I realize I'm going to have to fix everything on my own. Reassuring to know it's all up to you though.

How's your social life? Do you have (or miss) friends, girlfriends, acquaintances, anything?

>Tried to OD

Tried to overdose, ie kill yourself explain please.

Anyways, that sucks. You've done it before, you can do it again. I belive in you bro.

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Ted Kaczynski got it right when he talked about the power process

My God, please elaborate on this, I'm on the same boat (ltr from 17-25 ended).

I used to be fairly popular but once I graduated I slowly cut contact with all my friends because it became increasingly awkward to have such divergent life paths.
By now they pretty much all moved away anyways.

"Earn your keep"
Am i truely being kept and if so then by whom?
Am i really someone's responsibility? Why do they feel responsible for me? Is that state some cause or effect that i had made, or one that they did? Does my existence have to be justified? Am i really the one who has to do the justification?

Because I don't remember being asked to exist, and all this just seems like a parental figure shifting their own responsibility on to their child.

Economy shifts the responsibility of healing the bodies it crushes to the medical system paid for by its own victims.
Government shifts the responsibility of maintaining itself to its citizens by taxes.
Parents shift the responsibility of developing a child into an adult by shoving the child into a school system which is by all accounts an abject failure of a parent itself.

How can a person function as a person when they were never raised to be one in the first place? NEETs are just homeless people who happen to have a shelter provided for them.

> How do you build a shelter without tools?
You pile shit on top of yourself until you can no longer feel the rain fall on you; The same with living as a NEET.

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Ted Kaczynski was right only about one thing, and it is the general direction of human society.
Both his analysis of "the power process" and of anthropology/psychology as a whole is laughably false. The guy seemed to have used a bunch of Rousseauian caricatures as his image of "pre-industrial" people.

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What about now? Do you have any friends left? Or family relatives?

No I don't have friends left.
I live with my mother. I occassionally see my father to watch football or my sister when she's in town.
And more extended family for holidays and such.

>Rousseauian caricatures as his image of "pre-industrial" people
Not so. Admittedly it's been a while since I read the thing but he wasn't arguing that pre-industrial humanity was ideal or peaceful, just that decisions affecting one's life were down almost solely to the individual in question, meaning each individual was wholly responsible for their continued existence. Which is not the case in an environment where multiple countries around the world have ICBMs.

I can damn well guarantee there weren't any NEETs in the days where you either farmed or starved to death.

Jobs don't guarantee a sense of purpose either. Is your purpose to serve butter?

Friends are a meme. If you're not still close to anyone you grew up with, you're never going to have close friends unless you join the military or something. Marriage and children is the only chance that most people have at a loving and supporting network. But the tragic irony is that people have become so alienated that they cut themselves off from the one thing that would actually give their lives meaning. The current attitude get it completely backwards. People think they have to "find themselves" before they can commit to a permanent relationship, or be capable or raising children. The truth is you find yourself by doing all of the things people are putting off in order to chase the mirage looking for meaning in modernity.

The guy literally says that primitive people don't get bored and can just sit in place staring off into space because they are not "over stimulated" by modern society or whatever.

Except the very small minority of people who are born with something seriously wrong in their head, I think the vast majority of depression is caused by life being too easy. We have only to survive, or this and to breed. Though now you can literally just sit at home doing nothing nearly and still survive, no wonder people are depressed, there is nothing to create drive in those people.

Feminism > no wife > no motivation

It's not difficult to understand.

Do you miss social interaction? Is your routine - sorry for being redundant - repetitive to the point of being a burden?
I ask all these questions out of sympathy, in the sense that I find myself in a similar situation

Sometimes. But I'm still far from the point where it's a burden less preferable than working.

Static communities and meaningful work

If it's ok for a man to opt out of jobs why is it not ok for women to opt out of children?

Your purpose is to live. If you can do that serving butter, go for it. I'm guessing it wouldn't be a good life.

I would re-read it if were you. The point he was making is that "boredom" is a side effect of living in an environment that won't kill you for doing nothing.

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Man that sure does sound fucking horrible...

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I'm not really taking work into consideration here, I wonder if, even if you had work, do you think that your attitude towards everything and others would actually change? I think that what underlies my question is: were you always like this (and your "popular phase" was mostly a performance)? Did anything specifically led you towards this path or is this more of a "general feeling of anomie, so to speak?

Tragically true

Pic related was a great Lovecraftian meditation on the choice between the safety of certainty and the fear of the unknown. The main characters are two loser incel brothers, alienated from society, who are drawn to the promise of a refuge from their failed lives. I saw it for the first time a couple weeks ago, and I've been thinking about it a lot since.

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