Is is better to be feared or loved, Jow Forums?
Is is better to be feared or loved, Jow Forums?
Gavin Gomez
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Sebastian Williams
Machiavellianism falls apart when you acknowledge it.
Grayson Bennett
Fear is a prerequisite to love
Cameron Price
Didn't Machiavelli answer your question yet?
Cameron Allen
it depends. the Assyrian empire went with the FEAR. When the Persians beat their asses & took over they went with the LOVE
Chase Baker
And that puts an end to discussion? Machievelli was a satirist and far from infallible.
Cooper Walker
Why not be both, you don't want to be feared so much that you are hated. But at the same time feared enough to not be crossed.
Evan Scott
Certainly, both is best. But if you can secure only one, which is preferable?
Carson Taylor
>Machievelli was a satirist
he lived in very dangerous times. He wanted a job inside the Medici government. He dedicate it to Duke Lorenzo
Mason Sullivan
It doesn't put an end to discussion as long as you disagree with Machiavelli, who believed that it is certainly better to be feared than loved.
As for The Prince being a satirical text, that is completely out of touch with reality.
Nicholas Long
The man may have wrote it as satire, but it was done to show his uperiors jow much he understood the political climate as it is. It was his most pragmatic work, and freeing himself from what type of system he desired to write it was the best thing he could have done.
Justin Mitchell
It's better to be loved.
John Hernandez
Why is it always a golden retriever? Borzois are far more aesthetic.
Jayden Young
but didn't he write it for the sole purpose of getting a job with Lorenzo? which is funny because he tortured him very badly.
Wyatt Bell
If one can not have bolth then it is better to be feared .
James Nelson
Politically no one loves you enough to sacrifice themselves for you. But they will for fear.
Anthony Mitchell
Yes, but he had to show how accurately he knew how politics worked, and that meant taking in, dissecting, and analyzing pragmatic approaches to political problems of the time.
Xavier Murphy
Both
I want people to fear how much they love me.
Chase Martinez
and he still didn't get the job
Ian Johnson
Wtf is going on here? There's an epidemic of thumbnails. Have the summerfags taken over?
Xavier Mitchell
Is it too much to ask for both?
Angel Reyes
If you read the book that's literally what he says, but if you have to choose only one, it's best to be feared. People rarely understand the greater sociopolitical context around this work, the way Italy was governed by city-states, not truly federated, but recognizing their greater ethnic identity. The Holy See using it's gargantuan power to levy and regulate. The nearly extinct idea of individualism as an ideology outside of the aristocracy. The prince is an attempt at advocating benevolent autocracy to a governing body that had devolved into feudalism, where the peasants revolt and slaughtered half your family every 20 years and that was just how life went, if you didn't get a knife in your back from one of your siblings you pushed out of the way. It was the radical notion that the most Machiavellian way to govern was not by the sword and the boot, but by just law. This gets passed over because no one actually reads the book, just spark notes it, and because nobody alive today can read sarcasm and biting satire in text.
Jeremiah Wood
pic related
Chase Anderson
Neither, YOU are responsible for the use and context of those emotions. Loved is not better, it can lead to dependency. Feared is not better; commerce and socialization is difficult. Therefore; timing.
Benjamin Rodriguez
user, please don’t post cannabilistic gore in my thread.
Alexander Kelly
To be loved out of fear
Colton Brown
Gore? This image serves as an example of timing. Some people like it, some people freak out. The importance of 'when' being equal to 'how'.
Grayson King
Charisma > Glamour
Charles Stewart
That quote is often misunderstood or taken out of context.
Thomas Powell
You mispelled swiss sheperd
Liam Perry
If you are not loved you will never be feared.
Carson Harris
Not possible. If no one loved Caesar nobody would have feared him.
Logan Torres
Aiden Cox
Is it better to be jewed or outjew, pol?