Who has the rightful claim on Bosnian clay?
Who has the rightful claim on Bosnian clay?
Finns
Bosnia
The Ottoman Empire.
republika srpska, muzzies, or ustase?
the glass desert.
hungary
Sarer
The “Muslim” sections are ethnically Croatian. They were forced to convert to Islam over multiple periods of Islamic occupation over the course of 1000 years
Split it between Serbia and Croatia. Bosniaks are just turkicized croats and serbs.
Me
Clearly Serbs do, based on that map.
>1000 years
More like 400.
Serb and Croat population is shrinking by 1% and 1.5% annually while Bosniak population is growing by about 0.5% each year. Already Bosniaks make up 52% of the population compared to 45% in 1991. Estimates show that in 20 years Bosniaks will make up 60% of total population and 80% in 50 years.
but pls explain, wasn't there a medieval bosnian kingdom that's last king died a pathetic death in front of the ottoman court without fighting any real battles like the serbians? what tribe were those people? I thought they were a bosnian tribe that was christian before the turks converted them in exchange for special treatment
Albania
this is why you don't let muzzies into your countries. they will out-breed you.
haven't the muzzies been there since the fifteenth century though? why would this outbreeding phenomena only be making such a significant impact now?
Hungary
/thread
England.
sorry forgot pic
>being a statist
Bosnia belongs to whoever lives there. Each community should be allowed to conduct its affairs freely.
it has nothing to do with number of births, it's just that Croats and Serbs are leaving the country because they don't feel any sort of overarching loyalty. Not that Bosniaks don't go abroad to work, but majority of them return back home after a while, while Bosnian Serbs or Croats move to Serbia or Croatia. It's why RS is losing over 10.000 a year and Catholic Church records show Catholic (Croat) population is also shrinking at a rapid rate.
It's mostly due to Serbs and Croats leaving to serbia / Croatia and western counties
The USA
who were the baddies in the wars of the yugoslav successors?
What a mess
If you look at the fuckin map, you can see the Muslim area is sandwiched between Serb and Croat. The reason they took Muslim religion is because they were always pushed to catholic or orthodox and said fuck it we're going with Islam, the religion of the empire we are part of
It's all Croatia's
Everything on that map
Croatia and Serbia
why did the croat catholics consistently ally with the muslims against their eastern christian neighbors?
Srbja, removers of Kebab.
>forced
nobody can force you to believe anything
I doubt there’s any clay there
Im tired of these balkan niggers always bickering. Let's drop a few nukes there and be done with them.
Yeah, they were ethnically descended from the same tribe as modern day Croatians, and Hungarians. They’re all very closely related
They were forced to convert to islam. It’s not logical to force someone to believe something I’m aware, but this was a long time ago
Because Serbs are supported by and push Russian interests in the Balkans.
seems like the croats had more hatred for the serbs than this explanation could warrant
serb expansionism at the detriment of croatia
this. there's a saying in central bosnia "za kulina bana i dobrijeha dana" meaning the good days in bosnia were those during hungarian vassal-ship.
when bosnia changed hands from the ottoman empire to the austro-hungarian one, a large part of muslims immigrated back to turkey which somewhat reset the expansion. the share of the muslim population has nevertheless always been on the rise since then, even with ww2 and the genocide in the 90s.
how long has the srpska presence been this large? was there a migration in recent history from the serbian nation state?
Croatia, All the way till the right part of Srpska Republic (basically the border shared part with Serbia. Left is Croat clay.
yes all the turks can find refuge in the turkish homeland of germany or the french caliphate
>french caliphate
t. Kareem Abdul Jabbar
Bosnians had a heretical gnostic church, they converted to Islam because it was easy since they had bad relations to both Rome and Constantinople.
Is Bosnia and Herzegovina a meme country?
Keep projecting Younis Al-Maghrebi
not so much a country as a battleground of three tribes with different religions, cultures, and patron states that have a habit of routinely beheading, disemboweling, and otherwise massacring each other periodically each century
it's the other way around. serbs from bosnia migrated to serbia and montenegro in the 19th century because those two became independent from the ottoman empire.
there's little consensus on the whole thing. the serbs claim bosnia was serbian land since its inception. the croats claim serbs became dominant in the region only in the 16th century and the bosnian nobility was actually croat. the whole thing gets more complicated due to the existence of the church of bosnia, a church considered by both vatican and the byzantines as a heretical church. the issue of religion is the crucial one since that's really the only thing separating bosniaks, croats and serbs.
Well, if you want to go that far back, the Roman Empire.
so doing a deep dive into balkan history was fascinating but I have one lingering question - what the FUCK is montenegro? I assumed the nigger mountaineers were serbs but are they their own tribe?
Will there be another war balkanbros?
most of them claim they speak serbian and not montenegrin, are a part of serb orthodox church (not montenegrin) but still 45% of them identify as montenegrins as opposed to the 30% who identify as serb. in all actuality, they are serbs in everything but name. they beat serbia proper to independence by a couple of decades in the 19th century so they were their own thing for a while, but later on were together with serbs in every conflict, the serbo-turkish wars, the balkan wars, world wars and the yugoslav wars. the split only happened in 2004 with their independence on a referendum that barely passed.
*2006
Serb mountain clans that the turks never managed to completely conquer.
Nowadays pretend to have different identity from serbs just like muslims and croats do.
were any of the balkans historically friends to italy?
fuck off Jamal
Nope. Even the most retards here don't want it actually
'Croats' are a made up term by the west for Catholic serbs. There are parts of Croatia that never were inside of a croat state before the West drew up their borders in the late 18th century.
coastal parts of croatia were ruled by the venetians for the longest time. istria is also italian clay.
that's not being friends
Bosnia is fucked Croats and turkroaches living side by side.
do you consider serbs roaches?
Does it even matter? Catholics and muslims don't go well together.
Albania, but friendship ended with communism
Serbs are orthodox but there is a shitton of muslims in Bosnia who hate catholics.
croats and muslims seem to hate each other more than they hate serbs from my experience
which is really funny because they were both allies and nazi collabolators in ww2
Cyganie.
>implying there will be no future kebab removing
If you ask me Bosnia shouldn't exist. Its like a powder keg waiting to explode.
Austria-Hungary
IMO give serbs their part and give croats the rest.
muslims can get fucked for all i care
at least serbs and croats actually work when they come here, muslims just seem to want gibsmedats.
Croats can take these muslims, I don't want another "mai papi die serbia kill usa best friend help" and get bombarded by NATO
The slav-slave word pun also aplies to Italiang
Schiavoni-sclavoni.
That happens because the Venetians used to buy
people from the Ottomans, so probably. SOME of them may be butthurted by that.
BUT if we hadnt bought them, they would be sold in Istambul, Alexandria, or even Tripoli.
tfw there's an indigenous jihadi army on the other side of the adriatic from rome ... europe why didn't you remove kebab earlier?
Clintons and Bushes didnt let kebab removers remove dem kebaben
It is even sad when these arabs come to bosnia and marry their daughters and sisters.Imagine all these blond eyed girls getting kebabed.
Croatian clay. Revert to 1942 borders.
=U=
in the last Balkan thread I learned that the croats took on a Serbian language too
Imokwiththat.jpg
The White Ethnostate
unironically the vatican, the last queen of bosnia actually left it to the papacy in a will
ahem
It was that on top of the fact that Serbs are the mongoloid T*rk shitkickers of Europe that like to destroy the entire Balkan Peninsula every century
>Kosovo = Greater Serbia
>Montenegro = Greater Serbia
>Republic Sprska? = Greater Serbia
>Croatia, Solovenia, Hungary, Romania, France? = Greater Serbia
Fpbp
I wonder what butthurt diasposhit is behind this post
so Jow Forums who are /ourguys/ in the balkans - I'm thinking croats because latin heritage is white whereas slav orthodoxy and islam are not
any ustaseboos out there
I learnt from The End of Yugoslavia some Jew """Holocaust""" survivor compared the "migration movements of Bosniak people" with Holocaust and Clintons were assisting that Holocaust remembrance session. In next minute, they posted a TV report comparing it with Nazi Germany. Everything has literally to do with the Jews. Also US ambassador to Bosnia & Herzegovina was a Jew.
>On 18 March 1992, all three sides signed the agreement; Alija Izetbegović for the Bosniaks, Radovan Karadžić for the Bosnian Serbs and Mate Boban for the Bosnian Croats.
>On 28 March 1992, after a meeting with US ambassador to Yugoslavia Warren Zimmermann in Sarajevo, Izetbegović withdrew his signature and declared his opposition to any division of Bosnia.
>What was said and by whom remains unclear. Warren Zimmermann denied that he told Izetbegović that if he withdrew his signature, the United States would grant recognition to Bosnia as an independent state. What is indisputable is that on the same day Izetbegović withdrew his signature and renounced the agreement.
en.wikipedia.org
That cringe is only for those under 85 IQ
Glad to see that the Turkish diaspora could make it :^)
Turks of course WHO else? Bosnians can hold onto it as long as they kill SerVs for us though.
The 8000 people did die, only the reason why they were killed was hidden
The Muslims attacked civilians in that region
a lot(even killed 45 on Christmas eve)
The UN and Izetbegovic knew a retribution would come but they opted to do nothing and let it happen, since that would give NATO an excuse to start bombing even harder
you dont like kids and you dont like marriage. thats the only reason you get left behind. good riddance.
whose fault was srebenica
>USA
>1% Muslim
>France
>9% Muslim
Izetbegovics troops who abandoned them
UN forces who said they will protected them but didn't
Serbs who killed just the fighting age males and spared the rest
Take your pick