Someday you will all mature and grow out of conservatism

but i just matured and grown out of the left

People generally become more conservative as they grow older, because leftism is for retarded nigger children.

Capitalism is for those willing to work. If you wanted to breeze by with a history or sociology degree, you can die poor for all we care.

If one trade becomes less in demand, people learn a new trade. Those that are unable to adapt should not have any money, they should not be breeding.

I am sick and tired of dysgenics in modern society.

We need to start killing all these sociology majors complainign about lack of work, while real men are plumbers, truckers, coal miners, oil rig workers, eletricians, engineers... fuck off with "Capitalism sucks", you FUCKING SucK!

We're not so white anymore, about 9 percent of our total population is immigrants.

We're rich because of our policies and socialism, which led us to an amazingly educated society, not in spite of it. We haven't always been.

fpbp

also this is an obvious slide/bait thread and OP isn't going to bother responding to anyone

What do you honestly think would happen to your country's system if you were to suddenly have the demographics of a country like the United States?

>not so white anymore
>9% immigrant

> Got a worthless degree and job
> accumulated massive debt

Sure sounds like he gained some maturity

Globally and nationally, in the US, it's just not the working class that profit, but the richest 1%: Do you think a CEO who inherited a business from his father works harder than the average blue collar worker? your middle class is disappearing, and the gap between poor and rich is growing. Not because the poor work less, but because the system is inefficient. That amount of inequality and poverty in a 'first world nation' is honestly staggering.

Yep. You have 14.3% in the US. Not too much of a difference from the 9%, is it?

14.3% what?

You forgot the "growing up" part.

He literally states every reason I'm right wing fiscally. Poor financial choices shouldn't be anyone's problem but your own.

I wish people would mature and grow out of modernism

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socialised healthcare =/= socialist country

>Implying you're a conservative by supporting Capitalism.

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According to a list of of sovereign states and dependent territories by immigrant population, you have 14,3% of the total population. Denmark has 9%. The difference isn't that big - it's a sad excuse. You could easily implement a fair system where you have to have citizenship to qualify for healthcare, education etc.

Wages are a function of bargaining power. When your government imports low skilled workers wholesale, the bargaining power of all low skilled workers will weaken along with their wages.

I pay 26,000$ a year in just INCOME TAX. Not including all the other bullshit. Yes please fuck me harder govt give me more socialisms!

Do you ever feel guilty that other people are paying more for you and you're not paying more for them?

>I went to school to become a communist, and im trying really hard to be a good communist, but it didnt work.
but its okay because you wernt really communist, so you should try again.

Well, universel healthcare and education - a generally comprehensive welfare state - and collective bargaining at the national level with a high percentage of the workforce unionized is as socialist as it gets. You can call it social democracy if you'd like. There's a reason why we're considered one of the happiest nations on earth.

Socialicized health care and education is not the same as socialism, but even so, could you imagine giving away free healthcare and college to every spic and nigger in the united states? The economic burden would bankrupt this country before one fiscal year had been completed. We don't all have the luxury of living in a homogenous society with large oil reserves, and not having the EU/UN/NATO/42 million niggers leeching off the taxpayer.

And your oil reserves, and the united states subsidizing your defense budget and protecting your trade routes. Don't forget about that shit, because we haven't.

Not at all - I pay more than loads of people now. When I was younger, I was grateful, but I always knew I was going to pay it back. We're not ashamed of walking on our collectively financed roads or going to the hospital either. But why would I pay for a healthy person's medicine?

You do realize though that only nordic countries have been able to have functioning socialism in the world right? Your policies wouldn't work as policies for the entire EU. Just like here in the US. We have too many Italians, greeks, mexican squtamolens, niggers, and all the rest of the filth we let immigrate here. If the US was only anglos, germans, and nords, we could possibly use your system.
All your niggers are part of that 9% though. We have 11% niggers on top of our 14.3% immigration rate. Then you add the 20% for the hispanics, 2% for native americans, and all the random groups of south east asians, and were pushing 50%
50% is a bit bigger of a percentage than 9%.

What abut the people who just moved there whose families haven't paid into the system for generations?

>Failing at life is the reason people like socialism,
Not necessarily, some of the smartest and most successful people are leftists.

The reason why boomers had it so easy was largely because of socialist measures.

Problem with modern leftists is they are not socialists, and if they are then it's socialism + shitskin invasion which equals death. Take out the latter and they'd win all the time but they are too retarded and their elite are corrupt as fuck and owned by the jew.

I think you're confusing us with Norway. We have no large oil reserves, we have a tiny bit that's slipping up - we have literally no natural resources. We only have our brain power, which is why our level of education is so high. Your nation is nearly as 'homogenous' as ours.

Your investment would pay off. Having milliions living in poverty, contributing nothing, your terrible crime rates etc. is ruining the country. Education and healthcare is your way out of that. It gives you solidarity and people feel like they owe society to work - in a good way.

You really believe that. I've had major invasive surgery with years of recovery, treatment and meds. It doesn't cost very much if you have halfway decent insurance. You socialized healthcare fags seem to think that if the government doesn't pay for it then you pay out of pocket for all of it. Insurance is easy to get and relatively cheap. If you have a career the company will pay for most if not all of the premium.

The ridiculous income tax in most socialized HC societies offsets the difference in privatized HC.

Only worthless scumbags dont have health insurance in the US.

You're retarded
We are 50% white and the rest of the population does not pull their own weight in the economy.

>The US is almost as homogenous as Denmark
Your brain power is fucking low if you think that. Whites are barely 50% of the population now.

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I don't know how hard it is go get citizenship, but as I said, you could have that as a necessity to qualify.

Well it's not like your country wasn't build on immigration. Black people are still Americans. Come on. You can't uncount anyone from your statistics, if they've lived here for centuries, because of the color of their skin.

Nigger ur country is rich because of oil, not socialism. Also not even a socialist economy, ur economy is capitalism with robust social systems big difference.
Basically everyone in this thread is a fucking dumb nerd

This. 100%

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Education is wasted on niggers.

fuck capitalism and conservatism. Fascism wouldn't allow shit like this.

>Black people are still Americans. Come on.

And the majority of them are already on welfare. How would paying for even more of their expenses help us as a country?

Well I'm not speaking skin color, I'm speaking immigration. Your black or hispanic population has been there for A LONG TIME, especially the blacks. They're not immigrants, they're a part of your society, if you like it or not. Skin color doesn't change jack shit, poverty does - it's a class thing. Black people here aren't criminal.

>Do you think a CEO who inherited a business from his father works harder than the average blue collar worker?
Yes. I bet you wouldn't last one day in the shoes of Jeff Bezo's, Bill gates, or any other high profile CEO while at work. The pressure would crush you, on top of the massive risk that they have to carry for the company to function. Nobody here is defending billionaires because we think one day we'll become one. We're defending the system that allows billionaires to be created, because that same system is what allows people to rise from poverty, increase the quality of their lives over time, and create, innovate, and produce not just for themselves, but for others. Billionaires are just a byproduct of that system, but thank god, because they're responsible for so much of that innovation, and employing the people who can do the producing, and assuming the risk that's involved. If amazon started hemorrhaging money, I doubt all 560,000 employees are going to have to split up the debt and pay their own money to fill the gap, unlike in a socialist system. Granted, in a capitalist system, you still have to make intelligent decisions, take smart risks, and work hard to succeed, unlike our friend in OP. Of course some people will slip through the cracks, receive large sums of money they don't deserve, or fall on hard times that don't seem fair, but there is no fiscal system greater for a country than capitalism. The freer the market, the better.

>race is just a skin color
Now I know you are fucking retarded.
White men are literally the only group of people in the US that gives more in tax money than they take in benefits.
Go get some more brain power Johan.

You can be successful and socialist at the same time with a symbiotic mindset. For example, I'm in Real Estate in an affluent area east coast USA. I pay a shitload in taxes. State taxes provide good roads, good public schools, house values stay consistent despite nationwide downfalls. 3/5 of my federal taxes go toward "defense spending." If some of this tax money, federal or state, were allocated toward a nationwide healthcare plan, I'd be on board. Hell, I'd pay more. A healthy populous are likely living in houses, which I'll sell. Win/Win.

Is this what growing up looks like? Retarded rat liberal

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Rich because of oil? Our GDP has nothing to do with oil, our oil revenue is TINY and it's slipping up as well. You're confusing us with Norway - do your homework.

You can call it social democracy if you want. It's capitalistic in the way that the market is semi-open, but still highly regulated. Our society is based on socialist ideology, and it's the closest you get, but of course a pure socialist country is an utopia.

Those guys didn't inherit shit, they are self made. But I do agree being a high level CEO is extremely hard with high stress and long hours. Like JP says, only a certain type of person is suitable for that type of work.

Top kek, you know the same was for venezeuela you dumb fuck? The problem with socialism isn't that it can't work for a set ammount of time, the problem is that socialism begins to fail when you run out of other people's money.
You're a worthless parasite, that is all.

and all of that works because you're primarily white

we have to deal with niggers, jews and goblins at every turn

>#4 largest oil producer in Europe, after Russia, Norway, and the UK
>not rich because of oil
bitch gtfo

>about 9 percent of our total population is immigrants.

Immigrants from where?

>been there for A LONG TIME, especially the blacks
Yeah and they still can't even speak american english. How about you come to the US and hangout with some poor whites, then hangout with some blacks of ANY class. You will enjoy the poor whites much more. I promise you that.

>debt accumulates
>degree is worthless
>jobs don't pay enough

Yeah, that all sounds like it's his fault and nobody elses. He probably took out massive student loans when he couldn't afford to go to college, got a worthless degree like gender studies, and now can't find any work because his degree is worthless, and he won't do physical labor. Just your average socialist lmao!

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>Failing at life is the reason people like socialism

I see people saying some are worthless if they lose their job to an immigrant.
Being a Communist or Socialist is basically admitting you failed and need a babysitter for life

>skin color doesn't mean anything, race is made up
Imagine being this retarded. The wealthiest black children barely do better academically than the poorest whites. I'll grant that niggers have been here a long time but spics, not so much. this country was 85%+ white until the 1965 immigration bill was passed.

>degree is worthless
thank you for paying $200k for a gender studies degree, come back soon

Mate, we are trying to say that even though your socialist policies have benefited you because you can invest in education and a lot of other stuff. In america it is not just 14% of migrants we have to take care but 50% of the country which makes it impossible to have such policies.

Also you clearly have never been to america we are hardly one society. Please go to detroit and then drive 100 miles away and you see two different cultures and societies.

I have bad news for you, Denmark. The future is not good. Take a look at your population aging. Once the large baby boomer populations in Europe are retired (within 10 years) you're going to see a severe constriction of your available resources. USA will be fine, but Europe will be back to the poor backwater it was in the 1950's. It's ok, I think you liked it that way tbqh.

You're telling me that if your country was 13 percent black, and 17 percent Hispanic, both of the American variety, and you had political party who gave as much free shit as possible to both of these groups of people to buy their votes, that you're socialized systems would still work? Is that what you're saying to my face right now?

> We're defending the system that allows billionaires to be created, because that same system is what allows people to rise from poverty, increase the quality of their lives over time, and create, innovate, and produce not just for themselves, but for others.

How many billionares do you think are self-made in the US? Imagine if Bill Gates parents hadn't been wealthy, and the same for 99% of your billionares. Your system doesn't allow everyone to have a shot or to rise from poverty, quite the contrary.

Only if we end up such miserable failures that we fail to find our way in life, and need the state to take it over for us. In which case, the state will know exactly fuck all about what to do with useless people, so we'll just fail harder, which is pretty much how socialism works.

>Having milliions living in poverty, contributing nothing, your terrible crime rates etc
They're called niggers and wetbacks, and no amount of "education and healthcare" will change the behavior of these subhuman apes.

>Failing at life is the reason people like socialism,
>Not necessarily, some of the smartest and most successful people are leftists.

Not all Leftists are socialists.
I believe the US is spending the most on public programs at any point in its history, yet so many are said to have fallen behind.

You simply cannot consider black people, who've lived in your country for centuries, to be immigrants. Come on. You bought them over yourselves. That's manipulating the numbers.

Anyway, I still don't believe race inherently has to do jack shit with anything. It's poverty and history.

Look up the term champagne socialists.

A lot of it is an act to say "Look at me, I care about you and am just like you on the inside", while doing everything they can to minimise their taxes and doing little but pay lip service to leftism.

You're dead on about leftists today though, which is the important part.

You can do perfectly fine with either of those degrees. That's the biggest joke of it all - these faggots don't realize that they can't study Feminism and then get a job as a Professional Feminist. That's what they want - to avoid work, and just spend all day rubbing one out and being told how clever and important they are. They could easily have gotten a job managing a restaurant or whatever if they can get a 4 year degree.

THERE IS ZERO REASON TO SYMPATHIZE WITH ANY AMERICAN WITH A BACHELOR'S DEGREE WHO CAN'T PAY THEIR RENT.

Now what would happen if you throw 10 million non working niggers to that formula.

the entire immigrants angle is a waste of energy. you have much more basic, fundamental economic problems that will wreck your tidy existence much sooner. the immigrants won't help, but I suspect you'll all dispatch them as soon as possible once the reality has set in.

75 replies to this weak ass slide bait?
Fucking kys newfags

>get a worthless vanity degree
>capitalism doesn't work!

This. I don't understand where this idea of insurance being so expensive that I have to choose between feeding myself or paying for it. If you don't have a literal nigger tier job fit for 16 year olds, and don't make poor financial decisions everyday of your life, you'll be fine, barring some very extreme cases. Even then, the united states pays 1.08 trillion dollars every year on medicare and Medicaid, more than any other nation. That's ony for the poor, disabled, elderly, and those who got fucked hard by life. Imagine trying to cover everyone in the country, with a system that they're allowed to use as much as they want, when only half of the adults in this nation pay income tax. Not going to happen.

We're the 32nd oil-producing countries by oil export, behind a shitload of countries who have a shit economy. We're also 39 on the list of oil producing countries, so where do you have your info from?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_oil_production

Do I care if someone won the national lottery? No, I don't care if someone is wealthy because of inheritance. We should only focus on what we as individuals can do, envy of other's success is a sin.

The laws of nature dictate the fates of many, if you were born unable to adapt to the changing economic situation, then your genetics should be taken out of the gene pool.

If the future is going towards automation and technology-focused work, then humans will have to become more in tune with computer science related tasks, if some are unable to then they should die out.

Dysgenics is the main cause of the inequality we see in this world, because so many inferior genes are unable to actualize their inherent potential, because there's no need for someone capable of acquiring knowledge if they can not apply the knowledge to some task.

Inequality is not an inherently bad thing, it's the lack of economic opportunity that is bad. Luckily, Capitalism creates economic opportunity, it is Communism or Socialism that would stagnate compeittion and reduce the opportunities for the inherently gifted to actualize their potential, and that is a greater evil than inequality.

If we ignore that natural selection made humans capable of what we have today, we are doomed to eternal stagnation. It is quite humorous that our empathy has created the conundrum that will stagnate human progress.

Focus on thyself, because the future is going to get very ugly for inferior people.

Compare a private hospital to a public one in countries with some socialism.

Tell me which one is better.

>immigrants are the only shitskins
Also Dems are against any laws requiring a person to have citizenship before using public services because it would decimate their voter base and cause low skill labor prices to rise.

Find me one person in the united states who finished highschool, got a job, and didn't waste their money on dumb bullshit who was unable to rise out of, or stay out of poverty. One.

It's not jealousy. It's pity. What a society you could have been.

I'm not into the whole eugenics angle. If capitalism creates this economic opportunity, who do you have such a high rate of poverty and homelessness? Do you think people choose those life situations for themselves? And if everyone has this economic opportunity, why is 99% of billionares not self-made, but from wealthy and nepotistic backgrounds?

There also hasn't been any stagnation in our production or competition globally in Denmark.

>be capitalist ruling class in america
>livinlarge.jpg
>richest country ever, wealth accumulated at the top
>exploit lower class through wage slavery and lack of access to basic services
>pay politicians small dividend to vote in your economic favor, every time
>convince with propaganda for exploited class to hate each other
>white v black v latino v asian
>liberal v democrat
>alt right v antifa larp fighting
>divide & conquer

"Good, good."

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>get into debt on your own volition
>durr I hate capitalism

No difference so far I can tell. Our public service in the health sector is really good. The doctors are a lot more specialized, so I'd definitely prefer a doctor at a public hospital who specializes in my specific heart disease than a private one.

In your example aren't you already indebted forever to the government with your high taxes?

And Jow Forums is falling straight into it. No discussion of inequality, class, poverty, modern slavery and exploitation. It's just a race flame war.

It's not the black people who are exploiting the ordinary American worker, it's his boss. But the 1% sure has manipulated people.

socialism is the truest losers' ideology. It encourages you to expect others to fulfill your own shortcomings for you at their own expense.

I don't see it as debt at all. I would pay more in taxes if I could - I wouldn't have a dime without the system. People here can still have a very wealthy lifestyle. But if I felt that way, I could always move away. But nobody does.

I said European countries u tard

you retard - every one of our discussions about the reality of humans is about those issues. we realize that socialist fags have misdiagnosed the cause of human suffering and are not only working to identify the real cause but to apply solutions. You're a few short years away from the biggest reality check of your life - ask your grandparents if they're still alive, they might remember

you retard - every one of our discussions about the reality of humans is about those issues. we realize that socialist fags have misdiagnosed the cause of human suffering and are not only working to identify the real cause but to apply solutions. You're a few short years away from the biggest reality check of your life - ask your grandparents if they're still alive, they might remember how life was before the USA provided a shield for your entire system.

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Sorry, I saw you said Russian, and we don't really consider that European here. Anyhow, a 39. place in a global scale doesn't really explain anything. It's not a big part of our GDP and we have a far better economy than most of the countries who produce and export a whole lot more.

>If capitalism creates this economic opportunity, who do you have such a high rate of poverty and homelessness?
Stupid and mentally ill people make bad economic decisions. No amount of fish in the sea will make a fisherman rich if he never picks up a rod.
>Do you think people choose those life situations for themselves?
They choose it by refusing to put in the work to improve their financial situation
>And if everyone has this economic opportunity, why is 99% of billionares not self-made, but from wealthy and nepotistic backgrounds?
The vast majority of millionaires are self made. Supposedly 62% of billionaires are self made. Youre talking out of your ass.

>i'm so smart that I didn't get my post right the first time

There's no reason to spam your message.

Who do you think you have a higher amount of stupid and mentally ill people than the rest of the world? Could it be your bad health system that fails to help the mentally ill? Your bad educational system that causes all the stupid people you claim to have?

Yeah, I saw your country considers Kylie Jenner to be selfmade as well. Well done! USA USA!