>"Americans should know that peace with Iran is the mother of all peace," Rouhani told a group of diplomats in the Iranian capital, Tehran. "Likewise a war would be the mother of all wars."
>The Iranian president, considered a moderate, has previously threatened to close the strait in response to US President Donald Trump's threat to stop Iranian oil exports through the waterway. The strait is one of the world's most important maritime trade routes and connects the oil-rich Persian Gulf to the Indian Ocean.
Why are we trying to ruin Iranian oil exports again? Is selling out to Israel really that important?
Apparently the American military has a 'readiness issue' (their military got pozzed by SJWs)
Jordan Rivera
No shit I was going to buy a bunch of leveraged oil futures the other day. Fuck my dumb life
Evan Turner
The first one was the successful one lol America just can't win guerilla wars You win wars just fine when the objective is to bomb this shit out of everything then leave the country in chaos
Jackson Morales
Fuck Iran, Israel is based and the true Fourth Reich
Charles Gonzalez
Homos only join the army for the benefits and perv out on other men. Any real war will scare these pansies away.
Jack Young
Kek
Sebastian Thomas
I don’t see Iraq firing scud missles anymore
Dominic Smith
>a flat desert nation that was led by an incompetent dictator and had a shit army >vs a mountainous nation led by an actual competent one
Holy kek you are retarded if you think invading Iran is gonna be a walk in the park
Andrew Brooks
To be fair, thanks to the UN and human rights bullshit, nobody wins guerilla wars because that would require genocide. That said, Iran has an actual army with actual factories and hard targets, assuming shit gets hot they would get stomped in a week just like Iraq and then we would once again find ourselves in a quagmire so Lockheed can sell a few more jets.
Landon Bell
>Iran >competent I see know why people hate American posters
Hunter James
That's exactly what they said in 1990/91. Exactly. And yet it was the biggest walk in the park in US military history.
The key is to have a clear objective, go it and accomplish it, and don't try to stay to occupy. That's where 2003 went sideways.
Ian Allen
Get the fuck out of here with this basic bitch jew shilling. Trump and israel flying isis into the US, canada, and other places. The terrorists are israel and US ZOG for fuck sake.
Breaking: Trump Orders Israel to “Evacuate” ISIS Leaders, “White Helmets,” to America, Canada
VT was right, Trump bringing ISIS and al Qaeda's worst to America with Israel's help...but why?
>If you're opposed to the Iranian government it MUST be because you're an Israel shill.
Fuck off. Islamism is a hostile ideology. It should be regarded as no different than Marxism, other than in how much immediate danger it poses to the USA.
Connor Jenkins
>Iran is a flat desert nation that was led by an incompetent dictator and had a shit army Good to know you're a retard
>they're incompetent >that's why they're in Syria and Iraq, have a bigger organized system than Saddam in '91, and can sustain a protracted irregular war, and are supplied by Russia and China Same here, starting with your dumb ass
Brody Wood
Based af, death to Iran
Isaac Anderson
Islamists run our 2nd greatest ally, Saudi Arabia whose 2nd biggest export is extremist Wahhabist Islamism
Iranians aren't even Sunni they aren't the guys that did 9/11 the Saudis did 9/11 yet they are to repeat, our 2nd "greatest ally". Face it there is no war against Islamism when the US is allied with Saudi Arabia, the greatest exporter of Wahhabist extremism.
>versus a country that demands regime change, wants to turn it back into another zog puppet, and having literal Neo Cons using the fucking Bible as an argument to nuke Iran
Cameron Smith
lol, not a retard, just old enough to know that the propaganda Iran is spreading is identical to that before the 1991 war where we kicked the living shit out of Iraq.
Iran could be the same, but ONLY if we do this: >You win wars just fine when the objective is to bomb this shit out of everything then leave the country in chaos
Defeating Iran militarily and taking over initially would be simple. Trying to occupy and change governments afterwards would be insanity.
It's purely an alliance of convenience. The moment any alternative energy really gets going , Saudi Arabia's usefulness drops to 0. Until then, the price of oil depends on them, whether we like it or not.
Michael Young
Well the CIA did overthrow their secular government in the 1950s, it's not hard to figure out why they hate the US especially with the US constantly demanding regime.
>racing to build nukes
Pakistan has nukes and so does India. Israel also has nukes. Why shouldn't Iran build it's own nukes exactly? Especially since Trump tore up the nuclear treaty and is sanctioning them.
Ethan Harris
>Iraq was hated by literally everyone around them >Saddam was already fucked after an eight year war with Iran >literally kicked the shit out of him because his army was underskilled and tried to fight in virtual flat terrain
Invading Iran would be the equivalent of Operation Downfall. If you do not understand the geography, military, and backers they have then you're incapable of understanding shit
Bentley Howard
FUCK OFF SHILL SHEKELSTEIN
Angel Murphy
The US's alliance with Iraq was also one of convenience. We gave Saddam weapons and money so he would invade Iran for us. Look at how that turned out.
Maybe we just shouldn't be getting involved with monarchies and dictatorships on the other side of the world. Anyway if we were really fighting Islamism we would have invaded Saudi Arabia on 9/12
Instead we invaded Afghanistan so we could secure the heroin trade.
expect massive drone strikes, with boots on the ground to sweep up the body parts
you stupid faggots cant into modern warfare
James Jackson
It's necessary, unfortunately. The price of gas here is affected by the global oil market. We need Saudi Arabia to not fuck with gas prices, and that requires being friendly with them.
Landon Cox
If we didn’t try to democracy build in 2003 then it would’ve just been another gulf war. Iraq was a complete mistake
Luke Baker
The only times oil prices have exploded in price was due to the US backing Israel's war in the 1970s.
Before we meddled in the Middle East and helped Israel oil prices were relatively low
Which is on the other side of Iran. You're in Iraq on one side and Iran on the other. Coincidence? Iran is be the big thorn in Israel's side. It's the grand finale, although Syria was supposed to be toast by now.
Jayden Brooks
He's an honorary nigger.
Joseph Allen
The US is already energy independent.
Oliver Hill
>US overthrew their democratic government decades ago >Won't ever leave them alone >US rips up the nuclear deal they were following >US openly states they're currently funding efforts to overthrow the Iran regime "wtf goys why are they burning old glory"
Chase Powell
>Ayatollah is literal dictator with billions of dollar slush fund >Nobody in Iran likes him >USA applies a little heat now just watch senpai
He's a dictator but only because he has to act as a counterbalance to any potential foreign intervention that would result in the overthrow of their democratically elected president, which is exactly what the CIA did in the 1950s.
The people support him and he represents their interests.
Brayden Gonzalez
The US has so much fucking oil in Alaska and the gulf we could supply the entire fucking world.
Any 'relations' we maintain with oil mongers in the middle east is purely a marriage of convenience.
Daniel Murphy
Lol, yes, that’s why he took over the govt
Cameron Price
Shale
Cooper Johnson
>Why are we trying to ruin Iranian oil exports again? Cuts off their money supply The money that's funding their nuke research What, you just want to wait around until they develop nukes first? I got a feeling we've got a MOAB with this fucker's name on it
Aaron Thomas
Reminder that threatening war with america has consequences
Carson Morris
You literally said and did that for three fucking decades and have done the exact opposite
Jason King
Because the US is practically run by Saudi and Israeli lobbyists and Saudis are more than happy to let Israel do whatever it wants to Palestine.
The Iranian people overthrew the Shah because the Iranian people wanted a government that represented them and not one that was lobbied by outside interests. The Ayatollah is massively popular in Iran, and if you think killing him will make the people love you you're sorely mistaken.
Robert Morris
>wait around until they develop nukes first
Why shouldn't Iran have nukes to defend itself exactly? Pakistan has nukes.
Thomas Russell
Trump is a Zionist shill.
Wyatt King
This is what Trump does...
>YOU WILL DIE LIKE DOGS >I am open to peace >We had a nice talk
I'm sure CNN will be apoplectic anyway.
Jaxson Parker
>Why shouldn't Iran have nukes to defend itself exactly?
Because for every country that has nukes, the chance of thermonuclear war--- and the end of humanity--- increases.
That's bad for us.
Chase Torres
4D chess :^)
Anthony Gutierrez
No, it wouldnt.
Nothing about fighting Iran would be easy, even for the USA.
This is exactly why we fought them via proxy war with Iraq. We helped Iraq and Iran kill millions of each others. This is why they are terrified of each other today. Iran is huge, decentralized, with a relatively "up-to-date" military that has definitely proven itself capable of specialized operations to disrupt US interests in the region. The entire Iranian Revolutionary Guard proxy war with the USA in post-Hussein Iraq sound familiar?
Stratfor did a great breakdown years ago about why it would be so hard to fight Iran. I'll try to find it but some good google fu might beat me to it.
Funny because the whole western world was in Syria and Iraq and Iran took both of those countries right under your noses, with a small fraction of the cost you spent. I'd say they are very competent. They might not have the best equipment, but they have shown they can make the best out of what they have. Seems like you're in for a vietnam 2.0
Charles Torres
It would be more in our interest to just have decent relations with Iran so they wouldn't have to build nukes to defend themselves.
Sure. World peace would be great. Let's just tell everybody to put down their weapons.
Robert Ward
The only reason I have against war with Iran is its exactly what the Jews want. Jews never have anyone else in mind. When they get what they want, everyone around them loses. Screw it.
Nathaniel Taylor
Going to get gasoline now
Chase Torres
>only the dotard is allowed to sperg
Jaxson Gutierrez
Or we could just not invade foreign countries that couldn't possibly go to war with us.
All of our enmity with Iran stems from us overthrowing their government in the 1950s.
we don‘t see them trolley around their WMDs either
William Reed
Yep, they all forget about it. Whenever I bring it up, they go full retard >Hurr durr, not fair, they are using assymetrical warfare, in a conventional warfare, we would kick their asses Like if Iran would fight a conventional war with the US. They have been planning a US invasion for the past 40 years. They managed to build their own industries to prevent themselves from being cut from weapons like in the iran-iraq war. If the US goes to war with Iran, i'd predict a draft. MAGA by killing people 5000 miles away.
Camden Russell
lol, we'd bomb the shit out of them
Afghanistan was worse terrain-wise
James Sullivan
>black
Trump IS "Israels" loyal nigger
Chase Hill
Buy Raytheon as well and BAE if the UK enters the war (Theresa May's husband owns most of the stock lucky coincidence eh)
Jacob Miller
>Or we could just not invade foreign countries that couldn't possibly go to war with us. They couldn't ALONE, but that doesn't mean we can tolerate them calling for war. What you don't understand about this game is that we need to prevent countries int he future from bringing war against us.
It's not JUST iran that we're thinking about. It's the people who see what Iran is doing, and how we respond to them.
Zachary Peterson
Iran would beat us
Isaac Rodriguez
>>"Americans should know that peace with Iran is the mother of all peace," Rouhani told a group of diplomats in the Iranian capital, Tehran.
That was just when the US took over from the UK in terms of fucking Iran over lol
Hudson Barnes
Also just to add to this business about 'America can't invade Iran'. Even if they did want to actually take Iran with ground forces the Anglo Soviet invasion of Iran during WW2 was completed in about 1 single week's worth of fighting.. reckon the Americans can beat the record? youtube.com/watch?v=jAgHHk2Sfzc
