Lets get a paganism thread going
Discuss the Hellenic Pantheon, the Norseboys, and similar ancient pre-Christianity polytheist faiths here. Hinduism and other such non-European faiths are fine as well.
Starting this thread with a bust of BEST god
Lets get a paganism thread going
Discuss the Hellenic Pantheon, the Norseboys, and similar ancient pre-Christianity polytheist faiths here. Hinduism and other such non-European faiths are fine as well.
Starting this thread with a bust of BEST god
Apollo?
Yes sir
Do you think the pagan Gods were men who played their part well enough to be elevated into lesser gods, or were they created from the beginning by the Arche as essentially a secondary level of creation? Or are they varied hypostases of the same original prime mover, in the way that the jewish god has 3 persons/hypostases under one consciousness?
I've noticed from practically all of at least the European Pantheons having a single "Father" god, with the lesser ones being, like humans, free-roaming agencies with free will.
I like to think that Hercules was a real person, on the talk of mortals becoming gods
Most pagans were homosexuals. Thats one of the reasons I consider myself pagan. Thanks for the thread boys!
go away neo-jude
Altough I like the Nordic gods and their stories, I believe they are inferior to monotheistic religions and, especially, Christendom. One of the many reasons is that there is no need for the functions the old gods had back in the day. Things like war, which have been essential in Germanic times, are today more than rare to find today. So giving your God-King or God-Father, for example Odin, the function of waging war is virtually useless.
Ah, no wonder we pagans miss the good old days before Christianity. Pic related.
Who will worship the Christian God when we pagans have our own pagan gods? Pic related.
This thread has been hijacked by the proto- indo- europeans
No wonder nearly all modern pagans are homosexuals, when our pagan girls for the most part look like this. Pic related.
and this...
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Ugh,this would also explain the rampant use of drugs among pagans... Only then will the pagan girls look semi attractive. Pic related.
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This is not political
No wonder pagans retort to farm animals and hate Christianity.
lol
this current peace is what, 70 years old
there have been periods longer than this with no major wars, we will go right on back within the next 100. Everything is built on such fragility
as for superior/inferior, Truth overrides personal preference and even a rich tradition can be built on messed up metaphysical assumptions
Bro you descend from these same men that you believe were by default homos
but ok
Modern paganism was started by psychedelic boomers in a vile rage against authorities, daily shower, employment and Christianity. Pic related. Pretty much like pagans today.
My forefathers were real pagans and not psycho larpers like Varg. They ditched hyper-violent, dysfunctional and evil paganism one thousand years ago and embraced Christianity.
>My forefathers were real pagans
you just said they were disgusting homosexual animals
ergo you as the inheritor of their genes are also a filthy homosexual by your very nature
funny how the neo-jew mind fails to see this
>you just said they were disgusting homosexual animals
No I did not. Time for you to put down your crack pipe, modern pagan.
i believe you are referring to your personal gene pool here:
Great church in the background of the painting. Here is another one.
Calm down Norway, Finland has a good point. You come from pagans, but your real religion has not really changed.
Its a joke. Vast majority of modern pagans are hard left and gay. Most of them are traitors to Western Civilization. We crashed thanks to them and the atheist apes. Time to pick up the Bible and be strong Christians again. Neo-paganism is Mickey Mouse and will fail. Nothing is authentic and all rules and worship is made up. Total fake. Complete Disneyland.
Unironically there’s nothing wrong with homosexuality as practiced by pagans. They still had wives and contributed to society, it wasn’t that big of a deal
what a shame that you desire this to be destroyed ASAP during the return of the mighty king jew
how much better would it be for this to be used to serve the actual gods and NOT be destroyed at all ?
whats the point in making beautiful things in a terrible world doomed to failure? Since judaism strips beauty of any ontological status, all the things Europeans like are vanity, waste of time, total uselessness.
>but your real religion has not really changed.
Nonsense. Show me where in Norway we have human sacrifice, sex slaves, slavery, vendetta morality, murder is OK, torture is OK, rape is OK, stealing is OK, lying is OK etc.
No idea what you are talking about. Do you believe all churches will be destroyed during judgement? That is Islam's eschatology. Where and how did you learn your Christianity? If at all?
>Unironically there’s nothing wrong with homosexuality as practiced by pagans.
Old men having sex with young boys is not a good thing. Most often you will see that in the very end of the life of a civilization. Like we see today. It is destructive for society.
All paganism is sun worship.
It's like the lowest tier of worshipping. To put that into perspective, you're a shit ton of carbs, not enough fats, your cholesterol all of a sudden increases, then you get put on Statin drugs and die from heart attacks.
It's better to worship yourself and the image of yourself, which Christ teaches you. Not idolatry or in your case Planets and Stars.
Think about it. You are in constant motion every waking day of your life. When you sleep, you enter the realm of dreams and lay dormant. Worshipping yourself, and the human race is like an invitation to health, prosperity, and longevity.
To put that into perspective, you're a Keto adapted individual that feasts on healthy fats, minerals and phytonutrients while fasting for long periods of time to get the health benefits of autophagy.
Pagan worship is the worst kind of worship because you're worshipping things that are inferior to you. YOU are the creator. Not the planets or the stars. They only fuel your creation.
Qigong teaches you this, as you learn to adapt your body to the ever floating vibrations and energy through motion of the cosmos.
Food for thought.
>Its a joke.
backpedalling HAAAAAAAAARD
>Most of them are traitors to Western Civilization.
i only want to reform
>We crashed thanks to them and the atheist apes.
we crashed due to the spiritually european layer being eroded and only the thoroughly christian metaphysical notions remaining, which naturally manifested as universality, anti-race, anti-wealth, anti -objective beauty, anti temporal glory
and obviously, humanism and atheism as the bastard children of christianity took over when science demosntrated tha ahistoricity of the old testament
>Time to pick up the Bible and be strong Christians again.
I've picked up the bible too much already, I've put it down
also strong christian is an oxymoron, whatever strength christians demonstrated under a cross banner was in spite of it, not due to it
>Neo-paganism is Mickey Mouse and will fail.
Nah it's the only alternative
>Nothing is authentic and all rules and worship is made up.
I've only had religious experiences post-christianity, so this is false
>Total fake. Complete Disneyland.
this is how i feel sitting in a church, not at all what I feel when building an altar in a forest
The Talmudic Jews you see today are the Jews that did not convert. The majority of them did. Even secular historian admits that. The modern Talmudic Jews openly state that they are descendants of the Pharisees mentioned in the Bible. They absolutely hate Christians and love atheists and pagans. Pic and video:
Furious Jews threaten to stone us for preaching Jesus Christ in Jerusalem
youtube.com
book of revelation?
Jesus comes back physically and the entire earth comes to an end?
Where are you getting your christian eschatology?
open john's apocalypse bro it's the last one in there
>I've picked up the bible too much already, I've put it down
Rubbish comment. What is the spiritual significance of water baptism. Don't user Google, use our own words. My guess is that you have no idea, as your comment so clearly state.
Pagans are hard left psychos. Pic.
>The Talmudic Jews you see today are the Jews that did not convert.
Yes? And the jews that were the progenitors of neo-judaism/christianity are the ones who did convert, what of it? I'm concerned with truth, not ethnic origins
Ultimately both christians and jews come from ~3000 years of jewish ethnocentrism which is irreconcilable with other traditions, you need to wholesale reject or accept the idea that there is only one god who is an eternal jewish man, and that all forces contrary or competing with humans are scapegoated onto a nebulous "fall" as a kind of post-hoc rationalization
Just read any number of greek philosophers man, they will give you a view of God that will resonate much better, without need for rationalization
Nobody knows what will happen to art and artifacts in the End time. Protected, recreated in the 1000 years of peace after judgement? You are using your own vile speculations as documented facts. Very dishonest.
Jesus Christ has been here since the beginning of time. Long time before any Jew. To claim that his is solely a "Jewish" God and not a God for mankind is absurd.
Anyway, it is late. Time to go to bed. Best wishes and good night. God Bless Finland. Pic is from Iceland.
Parts of Finland were the last parts in Western Europe to be Christianized. In my home town, there is a lone tree called "Elf pine". I think people used to sacrifice there still even during modern times. Finnish paganism had much similarities with Japanese Shintoism. We thought that every elements had their own spirit etc.
I've caught in a position where jewish scripture says something that's completely contrary to your immediate emotional desire, which is preservation of all the amazing relics and works of men's hands
This is what I mean, our spirituality is contrary to those of pessimistic schizo desert jews - they hate objective beauty, they hate righteous temporal order and glory, they hate the white race, they hate mighty architecture, they hate nature, they hate groves, they hate pleasure. They want the world to END, and END soon
I don't want the world to end, I want to pave the way for a nobler race that will make the entire universe into a giant garden. This is the fundamental contrast between the western man and the jew, we were up to a point able to suspend our nature due to brainwashing into jewish lore, but now we have an opportunity to let go of it, so let's just do it
i dont understand how rational 1st world people can propose worshipping ancient dieties
why on earth would god(s) take the form of mortal men
thesevpagan religions are all about the aspects of different dieties but it just doeant make sense at all
>i dont understand how rational 1st world people can propose worshipping ancient dieties
easily
>why on earth would god(s) take the form of mortal men
This is your sticking point?
It's completely obvious - imagine yourself as the creator of a giant sandbox video game. You create characters with free wills. Would you not want to, since you could, interact with them in some form?
I assume you're a christian? If so, even the jewish god was thought to take human form. We simply believe this was much more wide spread in older days
>thesevpagan religions are all about the aspects of different dieties but it just doeant make sense at all
how so ?
to be fair, religion is still way more political than the shit that gets thrown around this board
The following should be required reading, have fun user.
counter-currents.com
>One should consider, then, that “paganism” is a fundamentally tendentious and artificial concept that scarcely corresponds to the historical reality of what the pre-Christian world always was in its normal manifestations, apart from a few decadent elements and aspects that derived from the degenerate remains of older cultures.
it's no big secret that the traditions were intentionally severed all accross the board - but whatever your religion may be, it's true that mass error and deception has happened before, from a christian point of view before christianity, and from a neo-pagan point of view after constantine.
Ultimately the neo-pagan religion will have to be in the spirit of revival, which is by it's very definition new, but my framework is that we should follow truth, not what is convenient.
What BS.
>my framework is that we should follow truth,
I think that is something everyone should agree with. Well I would hope so but I fear many people prefer what is convenient or cool. Regardless as a person one should try their hardest to orient themselves to the truth, what is above, and everything else will fall into place.
my Goddess came to me. literally the ONLY god that showed itself to me. i feel honored, but still need more guidance in life.
apollo is best god it seems. what's the best way to gain his favor?
my mothers side: germanic irish
my fathers: germanic ashkenazic
am i a catholic kike?
im southern baptist with a sailors tongue
am i my own fallacy?
am i a degenerate piece of shit?
fuck man. there was a song by some emo bitch in the 90's, What's This Life For - Creed.mp4
do i just end it? So many factions, variants, and variables. I claim Christian but not a Saint, I have hurt and been hurt. I have loved been loved, hated and been rebuked. What is this shit?!? I need answers, I long to learn. I must be someone, else I am shit. People = Shit
this is a pretty scathing article, but ultimately written from a hitler-type view of religion where it's like a game, you pick which attributes are beneficial like "hmm i think this and this doctrine would contribute positively to my atheistic direction, but let's leave that one out that doesn't work"
But ultimately this has nothing to do with truth - is all divinity really found in the jewish chronicles? If not, our metaphysics are fucked and need to be reformed. Whether this steps on the toes of catholic dogma is irrelevant.
You don't choose religion based on what is convenient! You don't get to choose whether the daunting task of having to figure out a thousand sets of mythologies and the nature of hidden gods falls on you or some other generation.
based finn
when will you fuck off? dumb norwegian christcuck posts the same fucking infograph that only proves it is WHITES that vote conservative, not christians entirely. Would you rather live in a world of brown christians or white pagans?
We already know your selection, though, dumb jew worshipper.
>my Goddess came to me. literally the ONLY god that showed itself to me. i feel honored, but still need more guidance in life.
to add to this. I...
>had my Totem/Power Animal (Native American/Amazon/Indigenous Paganism) visit me and reveal itself to me
>the only statue that ever "pulled me in" was Shiva
>I meditated for years every day, which lead me to have LDs/OBEs
>in my OBE adventures i met my grandmother (already passed), saw my parallel life, and my death in a previous life
Americans cant be pagan, its a european ethnic faith so if you aint a europoor then you cant be a pagan Im sorry.
Are you saying white Americans aren't the descendants of ethnic Europeans?
>its a european ethnic faith
no it isn't. Paganism isn't just for whites. Native Americans are Pagans, so are Aztecs/Mayans, so are Amazonians, so are some Mongolian tribes. I've seen a Korean female Pagan. Paganism isn't just an exclusive right to one group. it's been around throughout the world. it's just not very mainstream and is looked down upon by Christians, Jews, and Muslims.
Paganism is a term for the native european religions.
Its only for europeans Im sorry.
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>Paganism is a term for the native european religions.
this type of terminology is completely vain, look into perennialism, there's analogous beliefs all around the world that confirm their validity. It's not only in Europe that the interaction with gods happened
>thats right goy, ignore the present, focus on your "ancestors" (who were most likely christian)
>yes that's right goy, christ is at fault for everything, not us! ignore god and convert to a dead religion!
Im only talking about european ethnic religion.
Its a jew religion.
maybe so, but the practice remains the same. so in reality, Paganism is a world wide phenomenon of various races connecting with nature, and the unseen world.
Look man, when we say pagan we only mean the european faiths.
gtfo here with your Chriscuck religion faggot. no one wants you here.
>worshiping a race of people who call you cattle as the "chosen" of God
lel fag
>its a jew religion goy! trust me, im jewish! i know all about christianity and how much I h- I mean, we hate it!
does this include Ancient Egypt?
I'm pretty sure Jews hate Christianity, not really sure what you're trying to point out here, but Christianity isn't doing anything to protect the ethnic European populations. Jews also hate actual ethnic paganism more than they hate Christians because pagans are much more likely to act as an ethnic tribe, whereas Christians (in the eyes of an outside ethnic group, such as Jews) are much more prone to dealing out mercy and tolerance for possibly harmful societal advancements.
>posting Adolf Hitler quotes to prove your point
He destroyed europe and killed tens of thousands
War doesn't only refer to literal fighting. War is something intrinsic to nature, and many things in life are war-like in nature. There is also spiritual war. There is also much more to Odin, Tyr and Thor then war. Particularly Odin and Thor, but there is not much known about Tyr other then that he was a war god and worshipped as the supreme god by the continental germanic tribes during the iron age.
Modern paganism dates back to the renaissance and a resurgance in the 17 and 18 00's
I'm not ignoring them I'm correcting their errors
If i was born in their age i would make the same mistake because of lack of information
also nice job showing European relics and temporal handiwork as somehow a demonstration that christianity is the way to go, even though christianity preaches that temporal empires are all vanity, temporal wealth is vanity, temportla beauty is vanity
once again showing you goobers just look at pretty buildings and think "this is christianity!!" without even opening the bible
i guess i expect too much
this
no we don't, "pagan" is a term we probably shouldn't even use desu
>oy vey you worship jews! you worship u- I mean them! even though the bible talks about all of this stuff, we've never read it!
>all christian denominations are the same! which is good for u- I mean them! now be a good goy and convert to a dead religion that has no theological basis for anti-semitism, unlike Christianity
Those are clearly both adults.
>its a jew religion goy
en.wikipedia.org
If youre a pagan who believes in the gods then the most important thing is the gods. While the lost rituals are not unimportant, current forms of worship and practice are better then nothing
please stop invoking hitler, this is complete ignorance.
In his private conversations hitler only ever shittalked christianity, but due to it being the prevailing faith he had to pay lip service in order to climb the ladder
This sounds like it was written by a bot
>h-here goy! one example! I can't use the hundreds if not thousands of examples of other theologists, authors of scripture and more because they dont support my argument!
>h-hitler was on my side! what he said off the record is more true than what he wrote in his own books!! or his speeches!!! believe me goyim!!!!
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With mai APO-LOH-NIAN energies, we make quite a pair, and so on, no? Here, taste it...
you watch too many Denise Wise videos who is a Christian nut. have you even heard of a Vril Cult in Nazi Germany?
>cant refute any arguments
>f-filtered!!! oy fucking vey this anti-semite is off the charts!
You kikes are too easy, fucking chumps is what you are. I'll make one more poignant post and that's as the decline of Christian faith increased, the more the quality of our society has started to decrease. If you think converting to some fucking fairy-tale nonsense (of which many beliefs and teachings have even been incorporated into branches of Xtianity) will save us, then you're just as much an ally to the Jews fomenting our downfall as the Jews themselves.
A theological basis for anti-semitism doesn't work, as Jews have easily invaded your previously Christian holdings. Christianity was the stepping stone for the death of the west by replacing ethnic and warrior spirituality with prayer and slave morality.
>religion that has no theological basis for anti-semitism, unlike Christianity
idk, fooling my entire continent into believing that God almighty, ultimate Arche of everything is a fucking jewish huckster makes me hate them quite a bit
also, christian "anti-semitism" is complete nonsense, you're literally gargling their balls in your mouth, fetishizing a romanticized fanfic of their national history where you and your kind are considered basically soulless dogs until paul gets a "magic revelation" where dirty animals are fine to eat and the gentile dogs are okay to associate with
Christianity as pushed by Europeans was the reason jews were elevated into the sole main characters of all existence and the supposed only god himself, so don't ever talk about "anti-semitism" (as if basis for anti-semitism was how we determined truth in the first place) thanks
>h-hitler was on my side!
hitler can suck a dick, I don't care
but literally it's total mental gymnastics to believe that a man who believed in extinguishing lesser races was somehow a christian, you cannot hold these 2 positions simultaneously.
>Christianity killed ethnic bonds in European man.
>Took 2000 years to accomplish this.
Hmmm doesn't check out.
Pantheism is retarded, if you want to be a pantheist why don't you just adopt full credulity of modern secular materialism? Therein you will find all the "well"-evidenced shibboleths and panaceas and Baals and Morgoths you could ever want
reminder evola was a basement dwelling neet
>how can christcucks be anti-semites??? those goyim love israel! they love us jews!
>oh wait, there's entire chapters in the bible dedicated to bashing us?? Revelation 3:9? The Book of Matthew? oy vey, this is off-script!
It's total mental gymnastics to think Hitler and the nazis wanted to exterminate anyone you dumb kike. God you are stupid, that's that 85 IQ for you.
>Every solider, general, and king in Christendom for the past 2000 years had slave morality
Try again, NIETCH!
>if you want to be a pantheist why don't you just adopt full credulity of modern secular materialism?
because these 2 positions are diametric opposites?
Wtf even is this question?
lmao.
do you deny that positive christianity tried to remove entirety of old testament due to being written by jews?
Anyone who casually uses the phrase slave morality to describe Christianity is almost certainly not a practitioner of "master morality," i.e. being an alpha asshole, and is most likely what you suspect him to be -- a virgin fedora atheistfag.
>Every soldier, general and king in christendom for the past 2000 years was acting according to the precepts laid out by rabbi yeshua in the new testament, rather than building temporal empires and going to war anyway
Try again, neo-jude!
A jew religion.
It wasn't the sole responsible factor, but when our ancestors sold out their religion for promises of "not going to hell", they became feminized, detached from their ancestors, and tricked by the Church multiple times into giving them their money to spend on whores and wine or into butchering their brothers over minute differences in theological perspective.
The average Christian will never take your side on antisemitism, and I find it ironic that you approve of the Nazis when even the Swastika is a holy pagan symbol dating back to Aryan tribes 12,000 years ago.