Is the libertarian altright pipeline real or is it more mainstream garbage?

I wasn't really a lolberg (although I described myself back when I was bluepilled as "socially liberal, fiscally conservative"), but it's obvious how some libertarians would see the necessity of crushing degenerate leftist forces--and a small, toothless government can't do that.

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Lolbertarianism only works in white societies.

The lie is that you can have niggers and spics running around in a lolbertarian society and have freedom.

Niggers and spics don’t follow the law and subvert lolbertarianism for government gibs.

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"Alt-Right" doesn't exist.

Libertarians just want to be left alone from the power hungry fucks that think they have all the answers on how the world should be. The more the left pushes, the more libertarians are forced to pick a side. Tend to your own garden and don't force me to defend mine or I will crush yours and make you garden somewhere else.

>well, uh, you know
What kind of pathetic faggot actually writes like that? Does he not know how to express himself clearly, or is he pandering to the spineless cowards who read his column?

Adopt a Third position

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I'm a libertarian, but have been pushed further and further towards authoritarianism. I like the forceful removal of detrimental elements in society.

Divide and conquer shill be gone. Libertarians support any effort to unfuck the country. After all, libertarianism doesn't mean no laws/governance, only barebones. And what is being done now is necessary.

It's called physical removal and it is in NO way authoritarian because they violated the NAP with threats of taking your money and property by means of violence

This is True...

>american colonialist traditionalism

if only it stayed there, and didn't turn into a cringy, puritcanical, pointlessly nostalgic sort of culture.

if you want to be an american traditionalist, ya gotta give up gossiping about celebrities, ya gotta give up Jow Forums; the schizoid-internet-cult is so goddamn far from our original ideals.

the founding fathers would think we were all a bunch of faggots. ben franklin could drink and fuck us all under the table

read it again brainlet

Why do I know this feel so well. At my core, I disagree with the fascists, and other similar movements, such as nazism, but they are the best way to deal with the problems at hand.

I am hoping out of all this nonsense today we end up with 4 established parties. Far left, center left, center right and far right. The far right and left gain more power when the center parties can't figure shit out and force the center to get along and calm everyone the fuck back down. Kinda what is going on today, but with no strong 3rd or 4th parties as a legitimate possibility we end up with the current cluster fuck we have today. We have other parties, but they are a joke.

THEY HAVE VIOLATED THE NAP, AND NOW MUST PERISH

Liberty is bad goyim; now run along to socialism class

not true. it's the simplest way.

>culture is dirty?
>one tough guy will clean it all up

reductionist, binary thinking---hasn't ever worked sustainably. there's a more complicated answer than, hey stuff is pretty bad, better call the mob bosses in to protect us!

Was never a lolbert, went straight from bernie-bro liberal to fascist in a couple years or so.

>bernie-bro liberal to fascist in a couple years or so.
sounds like it hurt. was it weird to grow a penis?

If the holohoax is true then Hitler accomplished the removal of 6 gorillion jews and other assorted fucks. Additionally their economy went up. The problem was in part that he expanded to quickly. Had he taken a few territories, amassed more power, then continued, the outcome of the war would most likely have been different

hur durr freedom is bad goyim don't bee a raciss

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>cancerous elements will destroy your country and culture permanently
>strong authoritarian government will remove said elements
Makes a lot of sense, really. I agree it's a stop-gap though.

CNN once had a commentator ask live "who is Jow Forums? does anyone know who this Jow Forums is?"

yeah, MSM is right

You mean the almost decade long arguing on this board is just transitional?

It's real but most of the time people willing to easily change their ideology are retards and probably leftists at heart

The people who switched from Obama to trump and wear it like a badge should be shot

Simple. A lot of libertarians realize that niggers only vote for more gibs.

So, you're for YOUR freedoms, and no one else's. Yeah, you're totally a libertarian in transition, and decided that your rights are more important than everyone else's noses.

You're lying to yourself.

The only post from that flag that has been any good

>holohoax
>gorillion
>Hitler dindu nuffin

tryhard detected.

It's definitely real.

post the gif I want it

>people willing to easily change their ideology are retards

I think it's probably the opposite.
Changing your worldview isn't a cognitively simple thing to do. On the other hand, there's a lot of people who just wear ideologies like fashionable clothing and don't really believe it or understand it. That's probably who you're unhappy with.

No, Hitler did do something. He brought his nation up to the might of a superpower, then brought it crashing back down, permanently destroying his country

For me alt-right libertarianism is propertarianism.

Curt Doolittle developed a better political philosophy that is even more systematic, internally consistent, and true than libertarianism.

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I became a libertarian after realising that social issues follow economy, not the other way around
You cannot have the ethnostate if your economy is socialist-tier

Stick around newfag. The pipeline goes from lolbert to altright to traditionalist if you're here long enough. If you haven't reached traditionalist in a year, you're a retard and are only here to shit up the board with edgy memes and subjective nonsense.

You want to be a filthy fucking degenerate, be my guest. Don't expect me to put up with you. I will defend my children and my family from you.
Also, fuck niggers. I should have the right to discriminate based upon race, but the feds did away with that. A libertarian society without freedom of association (exclusivity)? Go fuck yourself.

Man, you really don't grasp history. Really. I mean, I get it. You feel tiny, and want to lash out, so you come here, join in the dogpile of being an asshole anonymously... but when you go back out into the world, you take the conflict between how fun you imagine it would be to say all this stupid shit out there and see people be hurt by it, and feel powerful, and knowing that you'd get the shit kicked out of you if you cross one or two wrong people, or your life would be ruined if the people on your life who can impose consequences saw your fucking bullshit, because you know it's wrong.

You'll deflect with some snarky insults. That's ok too, because you aren't alone. You can log off and move on.

Deep down they didnt fundamentally change their worldview, they've just adapted it to the new terms

It's rare you come across somebody who really isnt just a prisoner of his own circumstance

Yes yes yes. If people stop following you, you will change your views to win them back.

Sure. You just admitted that you expect to hold everyone to your singular standard, but claim you're a libertarian. You're a pathetic joke of a person.

I don't have it but it's in a clip in a good number of youtube vids

T r i p s

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wouldn't that mean white only citizenship?

pls get gassed

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>realize that true libertarianism is impossible in a multicultural society
>become a racial nationalist
it's pretty logical

Thanks for the amateur psych eval Dr. Nose, but I am firm in my beliefs

It just works

>Ben Franklin could drink and fuck us all under the table
>Unfettered abuse of freedom is okay as long as we maintain unlimited liberty
The problem with the philosphy of the United States is that it stems from a subjectivist, calcitrant, antitraditional Protestantism that can only ever develop the system that we have today. I love the American attitude because I am an American, but I also realize that it is inherently unsustainable. You can't just rebel against the Catholic tradition (God's Church) as a half-measure so that the ignorant masses can make up their own rules and consider themselves inarguably equal authorities on objective reality without devising a self-corroding system of unwarranted liberty. I'll enjoy it as much as I can, but it was never truly meant to last.

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I will one up. After traditionalist, I decided I support a stronger military that works hard to find a place for those that fail in real life. Make the military's focus on expansion of civilization. Those that fail in the traditional life can join easily and be turned into the men and women needed to start the new cities. Space force would get us on the moon for no reason other than to build there so there is a future economy to tax who will need immigrants to build. Same reason the strong Europe countries expanded to the New World.

I think many libertarians end up thinking they need a bit of authoritarian in order to remove the red menace.

I have my standard. If you don't meet it, I should have the ability to discriminate against you. Freedom of association is absolutely libertarian.

I'm not telling you that you can't be a faggot, but you better not be around my family. Wanna be a drug addict? Be my guest. I don't want to associate with you.

You understand? Freedom of choice means that people will choose wrong. Those that choose wrongly will have to deal with the conseqeunces.
And before you jump down my throat with:
>consequences means your an authoritarian
No, it is simply a matter of fact in anarchy or authoritarianism. Actions have consequences. The difference is whether or not the state or an individual has the power to act.

Libertarianism can only work in white societies even though lolberts don't want to admit that. The lolberts that finally get redpilled about race start inching towards fascism as the brown hordes get bolder and bolder about their kill whitey agenda

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Neither the left nor the right seem to grasp this simple anti-statist principal-

"Never endorse a government body that you don't want to have fall into the hands of the other party."

There are two pipelines to fascism. The first is from libertarians who realize that the right-wing's tolerance is self-destructive. The second is from socialists who realize that the communists have no appreciation for their culture or nation.

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Obviously

Well society effects the economy and the economy effects society, but you cannot have a well lubricated society with high taxes, of course this requires at least a moderate average IQ, of which genetics isnt the only factor but it plays a large role on average which is why on average free market works better in white societies, however the effectiveness of socialism is not inverse to the IQ of a society, nor does the effectiveness of socialism positively correlate with IQ, It always remains 0 in any and all cases, unless you are looking to solve some very short term problem then remove the socialism, however the socialism is extremely difficult to remove as can be seen in Germany, they even still have socialism, Russia I would say has been one of the best at removing socialism, in both of those cases socialism did not even solve the short term problem they thought they had, and in both they were stuck with diabolical socialism for more than half a century, and if you'd like to talk about long-term socialism in terms of around 100+ years, well, there exists no such thing for obvious reasons kek, fascism may be more practical, but still retains all the problems of statism, and it is prudent to mention national socialism was NOT traditional fascism, however it is hard to distinguish between statist systems because they all have the same inefficient specific economic characteristics as compared to the free market

At a local level, libertarianism would fail, founders knew this. That is why we have multiple levels of government. It is designed so a libertarian federal government rules, and the lower you go, the more local governments make laws. That way, if you don't like your local laws, you can move to a new city or state, easy for the average person. Hard for the common man to move to another country though.

Go get raped by a priest, altar boy.

That will only serve to usurp our hegemony, which isn't in our interest. I believe in tradition, but I don't believe in altruism. Perhaps I would if mankind were perfect or everyone in the world were devout Christians dealing in good faith, but unfortunately that is not the case.

>Be USA
>Be white society
>Bring in all the world's people
>Be no longer white society
>Die
Use your noggin, guy. I understand the idea that this form of governance was devised by whites for whites but that is merely an ideal and will waver over time.

Fascism's only worth is as a thought experiment. If your society reaches the point of collapse due to decadence, why elect an authoritarian to delay the inevitable? The people must understand fully the consequences of their carelessness in order to renew the republic.

>"Space force"
Pathetic trump-worshiping faggot.

>continually bloats the federal government
>implying that doesn't interfere with my daily life
go fuck yourself

>Kekistan flag
>60 IQ one-liner
I really ought not cast my pearls before swine and allow you baffoons to wallow in your profound ignorance.

I still consider myself libertarian and ignore people who use the term alt-right

this

>Taxes go down
>Bitch about the federal debt affecting your daily life
Wew lad

>printing money is free

Wew

>haha just leave me alone right? just let me live my fucking life in peace
>w-wow they really aren't gonna leave me alone are they? I wonder what it would take it make them..
the transition from libertarian to authoritarian is as simple as recognizing that freedom takes force

1776 will commence again.

indeed

this to be unironically honest

it's pretty obvious if any lolbergs moves to fash it starts from the having equal expectations for everyone then the reality slowly hits in about the people you expect to have equal expectations.

Its pretty simple really.

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pls respond snopes

It is when you're not a seclusionary retard but a global hegemon instead.

I'm a libertarian idealist that voted Barr in 2008, and Johnson in 2012 and 2016. The 2016 was more of a protest vote since Johnson himself, especially with his totally cucked VP, was turning me off, but Trump's protectionist rhetoric worried me more, and I wanted a candidate that was less gung-ho on NSA-type shit. Didn't really like Johnson but I figured it was a decent enough protest vote, especially since I live in a blue-purple state anyways. The combination of the total assault on freedom of speech by the Dems, along with the one-sided conniving ways in which they promote free markets for the elite but give no choice to us proles, means I'm voting straight Republican in 2018 and Trump in 2020. I still don't consider myself alt-right, but it's better than the alternative.

Excuse me leaf do you have a moment to talk about the NAP

Yes.

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One million percent real

No, it would provide 2 options for life instead of 1. The military is the closest thing to a communist life an american can have that wants it, but it is also dependant on the taxes and under check from the government by an elected commander in chief elected by the people. We could make a new branch of support role guys that accepts everyone it can. Why spend tax money on jails, welfare, education, etc...when we can use that money instead to create a communist-like place they can go to instead. Those that don't care to move up can serve food and mow the yards, those that have potential can have a way to become worth something and when they re-enter the workforce they will generate more money then what was spent on them.

>NSA
>protectionist
retard

I remember that!

Its less libertarians becoming natsocs and more libertarians being unable to reason with the left and having no real options left, while they hopelessly watch their countries slip farther into Marxism.

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Libertarian right encourages discrimination

I am sure there were plenty of critics like you when Columbus came back and the people found out about a land easy for the taking.

Read Hoppe

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For me it's more like I want to have libertarian ideals, I think it's the best way to operate a nation, but libertarian-ism is only possibly in a homogeneous society.

To achieve a homogeneous society we need fascism. Once fascism achieves the ideal demographic change, only then can libertarian ideals flourish.

If you're a libertarian you need a period of fascism. If you're a fascist the end goal should be a libertarian society.

>backwards swazi
>libertarian=ancap
pretty retarded tbhfam