>When, at any point in Mexico's history, was your country stable? The Porfiriato was pretty cool and stable, we were one of the top economies of the entire world. >Those progressive, liberal cities are riddled with crime and are generally shit places to live, what are you talking about? And they are, compared to little towns, how much money can you make in a random town of Mississippi and how many Ivy League colleges are there? >you're saying that the things that make such places objectively shit are just part and parcel and should be ignored. Well, how exactly can you prevent crime in a place where 5-10 million people live? It's not an easy thing to do, also, for example, crime in NYC is at all time low and compared to the crime we have here in Mexico, your cities are pretty much heaven on earth. >The goal here is the promotion of the traditional household as a good thing. And in what does society benefit by having traditional households? If your 'traditional household still rejects the idea of women working instead of staying in the home with the children, that shit excludes like half the population from the being on work-force, your country (and 1st world countries, in particular) are being fucked with low birth rates and aging populations and you want to exclude half the population from the work force? That would kill the economy like nothing else, that's what a traditional household means for today's economy. >Well, this gets into the realm of terminating another life And what is life to you? I could say that those fetuses are not exactly alive because their brain hasn't developed yet, they're not able to think, they don't care if you kill them or not because they don't know what they are, how can that be life?
anything ever come of that billion dollars he found or whatever, and then the secret politician slush fund for giving hush money to their sexual assault victims?
if children don't grow up with their mother around to smack them over the head, they're more likely to become criminals. A stable home enviroment lowers crime.
Elijah Hernandez
> WTF I LOVE BEING SJW NOW! No, anything but that! I prefer to lose with grace than to steep to the level of my adversaries! No victory is worthy holding your adversaries to their own rule book!
> phew, at least I didnt get called a SJW
Lucas Evans
If children weren't born because their mother had an abortion, they're less likely to become criminals. Abortion lowers crime.
Justin Rivera
agreed, but only for black and latino households
Angel Ward
Or it could be that the kind of genetics that produce a single mother and a deadbeat dad are the same genetics that make shitty kids I would like to see a study of outcomes of the children of widows
By 'you people' I meant Trump supporters and conservatives. This is a Trump supporter thread, isn't it?
Angel Stewart
>if telling a racist joke makes you a racist then telling a pedo jokes makes you a pedo Yeah, and I'm consistent in the fact that I don't believe either makes you either. I don't scream "IT'S JUST A PRANK, BRO" when someone on the right gets fired (Roseanne, Cumia, Imus, whatever), and then turn around and act morally outraged when the left makes unsavory jokes. Free speech is free speech, and everyone should quit being such whint faggots and learn to take a joke. I swear, the kikery of you god damn invalids is unreal. You're becoming the censorious faggots that pushed away so many from the left. You might as well dye your hair a danger color and start referring to harmon's jokes as "problematic" at this point.
Carson Harris
Did he just say "you people"? Oh hell no he didn't.
Angel Lee
>thinking Jow Forums is a monolithic entity kys spic
Look, the reason the KKK unironically support the democrats is because they are pro-abortion and abortion keeps down the black population.
This thread has a pro-trump sentiment for various, very different reasons. different for every person who frequents here.
Kevin Baker
le sleepy surgeon negro.
Lucas Bailey
>I see you people have really good arguments, huh. Why argue a false equivalency? You made a blanket statement about a group of anonymous people like they believe the same thing. It's just lazy and stupid.
Josiah Hughes
While that may be part of it, a major portion of susceptibility to crime is actually if the kid feels wanted or not. Going through life with a mom or father whose thought in the back of their head is "should've aborted this little shit" isn't going to go well for the child because they're always going to be treated with disdain.
Josiah Ward
>>Well, this gets into the realm of terminating another life >And what is life to you? I could say that those fetuses are not exactly alive because their brain hasn't developed yet, they're not able to think, they don't care if you kill them or not because they don't know what they are, how can that be life?
Your argument had a flawed premise and people are pointing out said flawed premise. Namely, that you assumed, incorrectly, that every Trump supporter is against abortion.
BOSTON (Reuters) - A federal judge in Boston on Monday rejected a bid by the Trump administration to dismiss a lawsuit alleging that its decisions to end temporary protections for immigrants in the United States from Honduras, Haiti and El Salvador were racially motivated.
> U.S. District Judge Denise Casper in Boston ruled that a group of immigrants and two organizations could move forward with a lawsuit challenging the administration’s termination of the protective status enjoyed by thousands of people from those three countries.
> > She said the lawsuit’s allegations about “statements of animus” by officials including President Donald Trump coupled with claims about a shift in policy “allege plausibly that a discriminatory purpose was a motivating factor in a decision.”
> > >The lawsuit cited statements it said showed Trump’s “dislike and disregard for Latino and black immigrants,” including reported remarks in January by Trump saying immigrants from Africa and Haiti come from “shithole countries.”
> > > >“Plaintiffs have successfully made out their prima facie case,” Casper wrote.
The U.S. Justice Department, which represented the administration in court, had no immediate comment. It had argued that the courts lack jurisdiction to review the decisions at issue.
>Gov. Andrew Cuomo pardoned several illegal immigrants Monday in order to help them avoid deportation.
>The New York Democrat, who is up for re-election this year, pardoned seven people who had minor criminal convictions, ranging from petty larceny to drug possession, his office said.
>It marks the third time Cuomo has used his power to grant clemency to immigrants facing ouster from the US — including last December, when he pardoned 18 individuals.
>179912452 >And you Trump supporters aren't against abortion Did you just assume my position on abortion?
Luke Taylor
>Gov. Andrew Cuomo pardoned several illegal immigrants Monday in order to help them avoid deportation. This faggot hasn't been keeping up with Trumps deportations then. Hedoessn't give a fuck if you pardon them they're still illegals and will get shipped out like all those the left has cried about so far.
Andrew Gray
>alleging that its decisions to end temporary protections for immigrants in the United States from Honduras, Haiti and El Salvador were racially motivated.
lol. so what?
Jacob Hall
Shut the fuck up and build the wall. You're building a false premise and making arguments based upon that false premise. Your argument is faulty and you are wrong. Now fuck off.
I'm not against abortion. Trump has been pretty agnostic on the issue. You seem to have preconceived notions that we're all the boogeyman you believe us to be rather than many different people with one thread tying us together.
Lincoln Robinson
>If you support Trump, you automatically are against abortion. Fucking retarded level of debating. Why do literal retarded leftist and An-Caps do this?
Noah Morris
many Trump supporters aren't programmed by their MSM and celebrities, so there is many varying positions of thought on that subject here
if you would decide that its not murder because the people who agree with you noticed most of the people who disagree with you are atheists it wasnt a principled stand in the first place user
>And you Trump supporters aren't against abortion, You're assuming, again. I, myself, am against abortion.
>If you support Trump, you automatically are against abortion. It is possible to support someone and still disagree with them on some points that they may have.
Jason Gonzalez
>If you support Trump, you automatically are against abortion. Are you actually retarded? The world is more nuanced than that, kid. I disagree with Trump's stance on abortion, but I'm very much in favor of him keeping dumb spics like yourself out, and that's the more important issue to me.
Charles Wright
> all Trump supporters are one person, one hive mind This may surprise you but Trump is not Mike pence or Ted Cruz. He won with the conservative Christian vote but not because of it and, if I were to guess, he won despite of it.
I don't believe making a pedo joke makes someone a pedo but I believe that someone who would call for someone's head for a joke should be fired for a joke. Don't you?
> how much money can you make in a random town of Mississippi and how many Ivy League colleges are there? That's actually a very weak argument to prove big cities are better than small ones. First: there are no Ivy League colleges outside the northeast of the United States. Second: Cornell University, one of the eight colleges known as Ivy Leage, is located in a city with under forty thousand population (Ithaca).
Your whole argument is based on economic factors: that abortion is necessary otherwise women would be forced to have children, forced to stay at home and that traditional household would force women out of the jobs market. That's a strawman, it is perfectly possible for a society not to have legal abortion and, yet, none of those consequences to happen.
Yes, I did. >build the wall I ain't building shit, no one will, that wall will never be built and you know it. >Not all Trump supporters are against abortion. So, you all voted for someone who repeatedly said he was pro-life? But y'all are still against abortion? That's actually some retarded shit.
yeah but they prioritize and also is setting them up for a "controversy" >these illegals aren't criminals and trump is still trying to deport them IMPEACH NOW won't convince anyone since trump's base wants the illegals gone no matter what, but it's just another thing that they'll screech about when they do end up getting deported
Carson Scott
after you stop invading the middle east and get your shitty troops out of EU
oh wait you can't America ruined the entire world post 9/11
