>Be Fascist
>For the people and nation
>Lets kill 85 people and wound 200
>That will get the people on our side
>Cooooool
>Victory?
Why did fascists bomb Bologna train station?
It was the commies masquerading as fascists masquerading as commies
Gladio
Friendly reminder:
- terrorist groups only get everyone's hate
- thus, terrorist attacks cannot expect any reasonable outcome
- terrorism is mostly "inside job"
Do you think any non-fascist Italian, after the uselessly stupid Bologna Massacre, would throw him/herself into Fascism?
TL,DR: Italian communists always blame "hurr durr Fascists herp derp", no matter what
I'd never heard of P2, a masonic lodge that supposedly was " a state within a state" according to a judge, who believed they were responsible for numerous terror attacks.
Some really wierd shit seems to be connected in Italy, from the Banda della Magliana, to the Masonic p2 deep state, to the NAR fascist group.
What the fuck are supposed fascists doing connected to gangsters and masonic lodges?
Operation Gladio, keep pushing cunt you will bring back the years of lead.
Ive heard the alternative hypothesis, but many of the neo fascists involved in NAR, were genuine fascists who wanted to overthrow the state, some went on to inspire groups like the BNP and other nationalist parties.
Its hard for me to fullly buy any conspiracy, i think it is murky than all being fake inside jobs.
But what does that accompllish, the supposed conspiracy is that the p2 and government plotters bombed the station, posing as fascists, to make people think it was a fascist responsre to communism and get angry at the communists.
How is that in any way what any fascists would conceivably think to do, why would the conspiring government make that their story?
I think it was either a somewhat muddy conspiracy, or that the 2 PLO members who were picked up in Bologna that day did it but didn't claim it out of fear of backlash after seeing the outcry.
So you don't think P2, the masonic deep state(berlusconi was a member before he got into politics), Banda della Magliana, the Roman mob and NAR, the fascist paramilitary had anything at all to do with it?
Who cares so long as it puts your faggot face in the ground.
I am a nationalist, what are you saying, be clear.
Do you think you are the first to bring Gladio to our attention?
Facists wanted to kill Commies
Intelligence agencies helped them kill commies.
Everyone else sat on the sideline tutt tutting and did nothing.
Their paramilitary operations provided a huge inspiration to other groups under the iron curtain.
Leftists lost their shit and started shooting policemen.
Leftists were dismantled.
Operation is a success.
So killing 85 people, all white, over 30 white children, was a win against the left? What the fuck are you on about? Since when was killing innocent whites a strategy for fascists?
Italy was basically taken over by masons but they discovered it in the last second. also Fascists were promoted by CIA in italy to counteract commies.
Take a look at your parliament and tell me how many of your fellow whites advocate for your total ethnic annihilation.
So bombing a 3 year old white child called Adreana was OK and the right thing to do for the cause of Fascism?
Bombing commies is okay.
Christian Democrat Prime Minister Giulio Andreotti publicly recognized the existence of Gladio on 24 October 1990. Andreotti spoke of a "structure of information, response and safeguard", with arms caches and reserve officers. He gave to the Commissione Stragi, the parliamentary commission led by senator Giovanni Pellegrino in charge of investigations on bombings committed during the Years Of Lead in Italy, a list of 622 civilians who according to him were part of Gladio. Andreotti also stated that 127 weapons caches had been dismantled, and said that Gladio had not been involved in any of the bombings committed from the 1960s to the 1980s.
Andreotti declared that the Italian military services (predecessors of the SISMI) had joined in 1964 the Allied Clandestine Committee created in 1957 by the US, France, Belgium and Greece, and which was in charge of directing Gladio's operations.[16] However, Gladio was actually set up under Minister of Defence (from 1953 to 1958) Paolo Taviani's supervision.[14] Beside, the list of Gladio members given by Andreotti was incomplete. It didn't include, for example, Antonio Arconte, who described an organization very different from the one brushed by Giulio Andreotti: an organization closely tied to the SID secret service and the Atlanticist strategy.[17][18] According to Andreotti, the stay-behind organisations set up in all of Europe did not come "under broad NATO supervision until 1959."[19]
you are a non white got it. LOL no white would advocate such evil, go die of oven schlomo
Almost all Italian neo-fascists were puppets of special services. It was state terrorism. Read Pierluigi Concutelli.
>LOL no white would advocate such evil
No true Scotsman fallacy.
because they were CIA controlled fascists
Yes it is very obviously an inside job.
P2/Italian connection also involved in the murder of that Swedish prime minister in the late 80s it seems.
Italian Freemasons always used to leverage gangsters groups, even before Italian Unification.
If you want to overthrow the state, you don't need to kill innocent people. Terrorist attacks always let governments enforce anti-freedom laws (example: Patriot Act).
They were at most instrumental to some foreign agenda. Also, Italy had the most successful Communist Party in the West (Partito Comunista got 34.9% votes in 1976).
>be Fascist
>lost Duce
>lost war
>suddenly become Anti-Fascist because Hurr Durr I don't want consequences
>Italy was 99% Fascist until 1943, became 99% AntiFa in 1945
>Communists almost won 1948 elections
>20 years later Terrorism Era begins (and Sexual Revolution as well), with random terrorist attacks
>someone invented Brigate Rosse, someone invented "Fascist" terror, in the meantime (1974) Divorce Act passes
>8 years later Communists all time high 34.9%
>two years later Abortion Act passes (1978), thanks to two "Democratic Christians" (Andreotti and Leone) signing it
>referendum against Abortion Act barely managed to save the Abortion (1981)
>a few years later Brigate Rosse and Terrorists literally disappeared from the scene
>mini economic boom from 1980's to early 1990's
>1992: Italian Magistrati (judicial officers) wage their war against any non-leftist politician; same year: on the HMY Britannia the biggest Italian assets are sold to foreign investors
>1994: Berlusconi era begins
Yet the Official Story is about Herp Derp Communists Terrorists, Hurr Durr Fascist Terrorist, Herp Derp Muh Terrorism Reeee.
Italy has always basically taken over my masons.
Most Commies are retarded faggots. There's no actual gain bombing stupid people.
Unofficial version says that it was CIA paying some neo-fascist group, or at least some rogue members of it, to do the bombing and then blame communist militias, in an attempt to stop the government deal between the Christan Democracy and the Communist Party.
But NAR were a real fascist group, they had brilliant fascist writers and philosophers. How did they just go along with a state conspiracy to defame fascism? Do you have any proof it was an inside job?
It seems pretty obvious Banda della Magliana, NAR and some p2 individuals were involved, but not nescissarily for the state,
P2 were a ultraright masonic group who were essentially to the right of fascism in the way Evola was. Infact they were not even masonic hence why they were expelled, they simply hijacked masonry to coopt the state.
it was an honeypot,their heads have always been involved with CIA and the italian secret services,they didn't care about the ideology
It was GLADIO and the deep state retard. Theres proof of this
Interesting, any evidence?
>Terrorist attacks always let governments enforce anti-freedom laws (example: Patriot Act).
You understand and so did the fascists carrying out these attacks imo. OP can call them evil but they allowed for mass repression against Italian communists.
They weren't fascist in the first place.
Even going with the most large definition of "fascism", if you want to overthrow government you need to hit the government (example: think about how many US presidents got murdered by "hurr durr solo killer herp derp reeee").
Also, here in Italy the two most derogatory terms are "Fascist" and "Nazist".
It was Jews to have Olof Palme murdered, but that's a topic for another thread.
A repression of both the ones labeled as "communists" and the ones labeled as "fascists" was way more convenient, don't you think?
Especially if you're the one putting labels on them...
That just means states can use terror attacks to crack down, not that terror attacks are all conspiracies. Were IRA bombings conspiracies? Were PLO ones? My uncle was i the IRA, he was a bloody assistant butcher, not a conspiracy agent.
This is my problem with the movement, everything is a conspiracy, not just gladio or a bit here or there, everything from 9/11 to7/7 is a bloody plot, it sounds like paranoid schizophrenia
LOL polls show italians view mussolini favouribly and fascism is far more popular than communism. I went to a lazio game and the fans and the vendors were all pro fascist and selling fascist gear. I lived in Rome for 4 months with my girlfriend and most political talk was populist right.Italy is the most based nation in Europe.
>A repression of both the ones labeled as "communists" and the ones labeled as "fascists" was way more convenient, don't you think?
>Especially if you're the one putting labels on them...
I've become rather torn towards old school Communists they may have been bastards but you didn't see them supporting western degeneracy and flooding their countries with Africans like the Conservatives and modern Left are doing these days.
stop striker posting
It was a very different world back then. We aren't talking modern times the threat of communists taking control of the state and pulling a Rhodesia on Italy was real. Turns out they need not have worried the status quo that stayed in power was just as bad.
>Were IRA bombings conspiracies?
IRA worked with Islamists under Gaddafi where is Gaddafi now?
>Were PLO ones?
PLO were involved is some dark shit playing both sides.
>My uncle was i the IRA, he was a bloody assistant butcher, not a conspiracy agent.
Never said he was.
Yes.
You can't pass a Patriot Act before 9/11. Yet you can after 9/11. Fun fact: it was temporary, and it still enforced.
Also, you can't wage some war in Middle East if you don't have some "terrorist attack" as an excuse.
It's not about conpiracy - it's about the principle of "cui prodest?" --> "who will eventually take advantage of Dem Terror Attaxxx??!?"
Mussolini did a number of Right Thingsā¢. It was a somewhat edulcorated dictatorship. Barely two dozen people murdered in 21 years because of political reasons. People fear the Fascists: "OMG, what if Fascists come here and give me Castor Oil to drink?!" (that was one of the most harsh punishments for anti-Fascists).
Basically Fascism was about honor and honesty. It invented State-backed retirement, State-backed welfare, and so on. Anti-Fascism brought back corruption, immorality and shit.
What do you mean by this? Striker posting? stop trying to score goals? just telling you what i think i have cognitive dissonance towards the old left for what it is worth.
Eastern Europe turned out to be more resilient towards modern liberal values so in alot of ways the fascists who took part in these terror attacks were wrong in the long run but won in the short term by keeping communists out of power which was the original intention of their handlers.
Google eric striker. He is a national socialist who sympathizrs with the old communists and says how they didn't take part in the degeneracy of the jleft. He is a full on command economy anti capitalist too, he is on strike and mike and heel turn.
Oh sure it was the Jews who wanted him dead for trying to calm down the Iran Iraq war. But it looks like P2 were mixed up in the dirty work. I believe the Italian president openly acknowledged the possibility asking for an inquiry 2 years after.
>be train station
>be waiting for people to arrive
>realize your made of bologna
>scream in terror at the realization that your fucking made of pig meat and wont last 2 days outside of the fridge
>freak every one out by screaming and proving your sentient
>thomas shows up at the wrong time
>all of humanity freaks the fuck out. train stations made of meat and talking trains when will the madness end
>be bombed
yea sounds about right
(((Gladio)))
fascism was ok until mussolini went mental and started the whole empire meme and later getting into ww2 because he though germany already won
They didn't. It wad part of NATO's operation Gladio.
>fascism was ok until mussolini went mental and started the whole empire meme and later getting into ww2 because he though germany already won
2 options.
Don't help Germany --> Bolshviks win and take over Europe
Help Germany --> Stop / Defeat Bolshwvism
Which would you choose?
I spoke to an ex italian cop who was a contractor in my building
When i asked him about P2 he shit himself and found a way to make his excuses and leave.
throw bolsheviks out of helicopters
same as all the other groups, seeking power.
Almost immediately after the bombing, the press agency Ansa received a telephone call from someone purporting to represent NAR claiming responsibility. The call later proved to be fake, and to have originated from the Florence office of SISMI, the Italian Military Secret Service. Federigo Manucci Benincasa, director of the Florence branch of SISMI, would later be charged with obstruction of justice.
NAR=neo-fascist terrorist organization Nuclei Armati Rivoluzionari (Armed Revolutionary Groups).
I agree, that is fact. But a member of The Magliana gang, connected to NAR was at the station. The explosives used were matched to a NAR cache.
They were definitely involved to some degree.