Why has fascism failed every single time it's ever been tried...

>RoC
>Spain
>Portugal
>Chile
not even fascist
sage

Taiwanese people kicked KMT.

I didn't notice. Damn that's good.

I would argue Portugal was Fascist during the Salazar era.

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main reason is fascism is a political tool used to fight communism. fascism is nothing more than rightwing collectivism. if you subscribe to R vs K political theory you’ll understand this is an unnatural state for the right to be in.

>Spain, Portugal, Chile
How are any of these failures? Seems like fascism does what it promises when its not crushed by military action.

Is anyone going to post the rolling one?

This is now a pro-fascist thread.

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Churchill started the war though.

he lost the empire

good things never last

>tfw germany

>Starting a war with half the world is fucking stupid though. And because of its authoritarian nature, there was nobody to actually tell the idiots ''uuhm, lets not make everybody so angry with us''
Generation Z education is really something.

>Hitler started the war

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Roll.

What the hell

>start a war on behalf of your Jewish backers to keep Germany from superpower status
>lose your own superpower status after the war because of 'human rights' or whatever
With Jews, you lose. Every single time.

Welp, I'm off for Ju Jutsu training. Also gonna try the new gymnastics those Germans implemented.

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Mussolini would have been successful if he stayed out of WW2.

>1 post by this id.
Every time.

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See Fascism is not right wing, fascism is not collectivist nor is it individualist.
It is an un-natural state for the right to be in because fascism is the natural state of the world, and the un-natural concept of the 'right-wing' is implicitly anti-the natural world

Iron Guard a best

rolling

>Implying that authoritarianism = warmongering

sheeit im going to have to move to china now rip

Also to note germany was national socialist not fascism

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Because they are pleb-tier post-enlightenment ideologies

because we got dragged in a war with uncle Adolf (who was a national-socialist btw)
kek

Fascism was more than a counter-attack against communism. It was an ideology that was a mix of intense nationalism, collectivism, and anti-semitism. Hitler, and other fascist leaders supported these because they saw it as the only applicable form of Socialism. Hitler was a national socialist, Mussolini was a socialist until he grew more right wing. Fascism is nothing but Nationalistic "Communism"

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plz homeland

>pan-europeanism

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our guy... :(

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Nice

Post-Enlightenment in the literal sense of moving past the Enlightenment and discarding its shitty autistic baggage. Communism and liberalism are Enlightenment ideologies, fascism recognizes the Enlightenment for the mistake it was.

What a stupid bait of a thread. OP is a faggot and also saged.

>nazi germany
>imperial japan
>fascist

>francoist spain
>failed

?

NAZI GERMANY PLEASE

Oh snap

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Rolling to be a Spanish boomer.

They're basically the same thing

It failed every time recently, any form of nationalization will, including those in the form of Libya, Iran, NK, etc. This is because a certain banking elite currently hold the highest throne and to go against their system is suicide.

In the past fascism was extremely successful, see Rome, and general nationalism was necessary for the survival of a nation.

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take me back to where I belong

I love how many leftist faggots don't know that Spain was a literal dictatorship under Franco - the man who was installed with the help of Hitler and the Wehrmacht - when they joined NATO...

"Muh Fascism"

Are you trying to say the Roman Empire was fascist?

Burger talking sense

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Every single word of this could not be more wrong.

>Fascism was more than a counter-attack against communism.
Fascism is the natural order of the world, not a manmade creation that opposes one thing.

>It was an ideology
Not an ideology, a worldview.

>Collectivism
Collectivism is a communist practice, fascism is neither collectivist nor individualist but a mixture of the two out of practicality.

>anti-semitism
This is a necessity but not one of the core aspects of the fascist worldview, we'd opposed any group or creed that acts like the jews do.

>Hitler and other leaders
They were fascists as they believed in natural law, not because they wanted socialism, socialism is a manmade concept, NS is called what it is to get support from the working class and as the best descriptor Hitler could think off.

>Mussolini
Mussolini opposed both capitalism and communism as all fascists do, and both the right and the left as all fascists do.

Fascism is not nationalist communism, this makes absolutely no sense, fascism opposes all manmade ideologies

much better

>Implying Pinochet's Chile was fascist
>Also implying it wasn't the single BEST era for the country

Assmad commie in need of helicopter ride detected.

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Nobody wants to fight for an asshole. That's why Jow Forums has no friends.

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Chile was not under fascism, at the period increase their economy instead of becoming Venezuela. That's fair from failure

>Fascism is the natural order of the world
Pretty much this

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Lucky man. Please advise hitler.

This.

Cause they don't know their limit

trips god

Are you retarded? How the fuck does fascism oppose all manmade ideologies?

It was made by men you fucking mong

Like holy fuck, I agree with a lot of what fascism says but its no different than any other political ideology

It was a dictatorship sure, but not all dictatorships are fascist states, that would make stalin and lenin fascists.

Caeser was a fascist, the empire itself wasn't

Mein neger

Caesar was apart of the reformer/leftist party of Rome?!

He advocated for workers/peasants rights and actively supported capitalists like Crassus

Brazil didn't lose, they fought for the Allies despite being fascists.

Gotta read more m9, you're clearly a bit new to this. Start with a book called ''A Squires Trial'' by Alexander Slavros, it explains the natural element of the fascist worldview quite simply.

Fascism was not made by men, it is simply men looking at the natural order and applying it to the human race, their countries and themselves.

Hitler knew Britain and France had made guarantees to Poland, Hitler invaded Poland anyway.

Asserted conclusion fails to account for geography and Jewry. Capitalist oligarch is more win though. If you don't win, you suck and so does your ideology. There are no excuses even with Jews and geography.

This thread again?

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I've read plenty of literature on fascism, and plenty of other ideologies.

Frankly, I think your faith in fascism is dogmatic at best, and worship of an ideal at worst.

I agree with fascisms opinions on the Jewish question, I agree with the uplifting of the worker class through a common national identity but to elevate fascism above anything other than an ideology is retarded

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Wew. I didn't think anyone was this ignorant.

Fascism is a broad term. It's essentially modern tribalism with a heavy sense of nationalism. You won't find a real definition of it on Google, nor will you find one for national socialism, because they're suppressed ideologies. They don't want people reading the definitions and seeing that those systems would actually make a lot of sense. Instead the definitions and examples you read will be ones that place a heavy emphasis on the strictness, the central authority being the highest law, the suppression of opposition, and that it's synonymous with NAZIIIISSS! When in truth those things don't have to be emphasized at all in a system and it could still be considered a fascist system.

But yes Rome was fascist, as was Nazi Germany. A lot of imperial and monarchial governments too were fascist.

A reformation from a republic to a militaristic dictatorship that was also not monarchistic?

>He advocated workers/peasants rights
Theres nothing leftist about that, workers shouldn't be exploited by capitalists, that doesn't make communism worthwhile.

>he supported crassus
Yes, the same Hitler used big businessmen to get funding and support, that didn't mean he agreed with their worldview either

You can't just shrug off the fact that Caesar was close friends with capitalists and business owners by saying he didn't agree with them.

Plus when he took power he didn't make a 'Roman' identity he declared himself a god and then got stabbed (and yes I'm aware im summing up 8 years of history but I think that gets across the major events)

Damn that's cold

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Just having a nationalistic society doesn't make a country fascist! Fascism was made in Italy by former socialists who saw workers being abused but didn't agree with the Communists autistic way of dealing with it. To try to apply a modern economic, and social concept to a society from antiquity that operated nothing like modern nation-states is a huge stretch

>b-b-b-but it's not real fascism

Wow same bullshit the communists spew, nice

Do you think all dictatorships and monarchies are fascist?

Fascism is at its core, a dogmatic ideal, absolutly intolerant to ideologies as they are material creations not the acceptance of nature.

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They objectively were not fascist, you can't just say something was something it wasn't and post the ''not real x'' meme if people call you a fucking liar.

Japan fucked it up.

Hitler and Germany were loyal to Japan until they died.

If Japan hadn't declared war against the USA and pushed with Germany against Russia, the war would probably be won.

It seems someone in Japan was a traitor who knew that they need to attack the US to lose. Also Japan was pretty much all the time at war with Russia, but as soon as Hitler wanted to attack Russia, Japan made a peace treaty with Russia and attacked the USA. If this isn't a sign that someone was a traitor, then I don't know what is.

How did Francoist Spain fail, exactly?
They won the war and were in power until the dictator died. The only reason we transitioned to a democracy was because the king willed so.

Being a dictatorship isn't synonymous with being fascist, see my other post. They've manipulated the definition, as (((they))) do, to suppress what the real system is actually about.

It's a system similar to tribalism, adapted to be applicable to the modern nation-state. Yes, typically tribes had leaders so fascist states typically have leaders too. Tribes also had elders, so there can be others that hold central power in fascism. But over all else, the people are the most important part of the tribe. This is why it's symbol is a bundle of sticks, it's to represent the tribe sticking together and thus being strong. All policies in a fascist system are meant to benefit the people of the tribe above all else.

National Socialism was a great example of this. As you can see it wasn't the people serving Hitler, it was Hitler serving his people. He was the tribe leader, but he served and promoted the tribe. Now read the definitions of fascim again and see that they imply that the people serve the "dictator" as if it's a monarchy. Now you see how they manipulate language.

you can argue that even the Germans weren't fascist, they were National Socialists who ripped off of the Italians, as all Germans do. Snow niggers love to steal from the supreme Mediterraneans.

You're missing some commie flags though.

Tell me I’m in the right timeline

Nice Mein Kampf quote

But guess what, I've read that fucking book too and you know what? Hitler viewed National Socialism as a necessary ideology for the advancement of the German race and people not the implementation of the natural order

If you view it as the natural order of things then why the fuck did man-made ideologies ever develop, to begin with?