Jordan B Peterson

I won't give him time to find out- once a UN worker always a sheep fucker.

>Are we supposed to like or hate him?
You're supposed to form your own opinion you dumb sheep

Hi Murdoch-Chan!

This, there is some good advice in there. Some stuff which is stupid think for yourself

He's the voice of reason in this crazy world, mate.

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He's a gatekeeper. He has a few nuggets of wisdom, but his stated goal is to keep young White men from radicalizing. Molyneux is the superior gateway redpill dispenser.

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>we
can't you think for yourself?

>Are we supposed to like or hate him?
Tell me what to think please.

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We're supposed to hate him.
Now be a good goy and do what you're told.

>tell me what to think

>Are we supposed to like or hate him?
You just failed the test bucko
Clean your room you unterlobster

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I like him

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this.

you don't need to hate or love everything you dumb cunts.

Like him if you’re younger than 14

Hate him if you’re older than 16

voxday.blogspot.com/2018/04/the-myth-of-jordan-petersons-integrity.html

He is a product of the modern world. A modern "intellectual". A psychologist and a materialist to the core, his only source of "explanation" draws from the hypothetical, the stripped down, and the intuitive. Everything is looked at from the lowest order possible, which is why his Biblical series rests solely on psychological and pragmatic explanations, effectively denuding the spirit of Christianity into something that the masses can understand.

Politically speaking, he draws the line against the demonic antagonists of the left, this is true. But he has no effective answers. At the end of the day, he is just another agitator like they are, adding the confusing downward spiral of our age.

Collectivists don't form their own opinions.

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>Are we
Get out

He is a good entry point. Indeed it was mine.

I like him

People who expect any Boomer/late genXer to be aware of the JQ is fooling themselves and is kind of a dumb reason to hate him, especially when he's set a lot of single men back on the right track.

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His "philosophy" is extremely weak

I dunno, watch his videos and make up your own mind, OP. He strikes me as an academic, much like Spencer, a guy who is willing to defend his ideas even if they are out of fashion and not politically correct. He seems to be a bit more of an opportunist than Spencer is, he's always flogging his books.

That's not an answer. That's an observation that everyone on the right accepts, and nobody on the left accepts. Given that the lines are already drawn, he is just preaching to the choir.

An effective answer, an answer which would reside in explanations transcending the orders of ordinary life, is absolutely beyond his sight. He lives and dies as a materialist. Without effective answers, he provides the illusion of resistance, while being the exact opposite. He is an agitator, just like the left are. He is an agent of confusion.

Why is Jow Forums obsessed with a fucking psych?

like

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Fuck off CIA

Thanks for the support guys. Since I already don't care enough to do my own research on his statements and apply my own reason I'll just roll with the "I'm largely indifferent." guy

XOXO

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He’s a satanist who pays shills to post here.

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Daily Reminder, if you are circumcised, you dont need to wash your penis
Peterson BTFO

Make up your own fucking mind

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If extremist collectivists want things to go hot, their "troops" right now are a bunch of soft degenerate weaklings and they'll fail to accomplish anything other than being a laughingstock like antifa
JBP at the very least pushes becoming a competent person before you even dare contemplate trying to fight the system
Of course in becoming a decent person one might find that self-destructive nihilistic lashing out doesn't actually accomplish what you thought it might accomplish

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He's good for redpilling people on cultural marxism. His lectures on Christianity are also pretty cool and interesting, even atheist/agnostic people can find them worth listening to.

Unfortunately those 2 topics are what all his lectures and stuff revolve around.

He's a good red pill introduction and thats about it.

No, Peterson pushes becoming a competent person and then just staying in your room (but remember to clean it) and allow everything outside your room to go to shit.

I genuflect whenever I say or hear his name.

>Are we supposed to like or hate him?
>I'm honestly don't know...
We're supposed to think for ourselves and not depend on the Jow Forums hivemind for all our youtube decisions. Peterson was our guy but now we realize he's just a gatekeeper trying to prevent people from going too far to the right.

If you have to ask "should WE hate him" you are as bad as SJWs.
Grow up, get your own opinion and hate people that you think that are worth it not people that others tell you you should.

A think he's a male voice of reason for a lot of lost young men and an increasingly unstable upside down society.

He's not perfect but he's better than nothing and helps our cause overall.

this but unironically

Make up your own mind and then we can shout at you for being wrong.

Helps us overall. I know he's not the 100% Jewhating based nazi we want, but he helps us atleast to slowly move towards a better society. So stop fucking hating.

He represents the Last Stand of the implicitly White academic in the Communist sjw shitthole that the academy has become

There's no reason to dislike him. Even if you disagree with him he's based as fuck. Takes a special kind of stupid not to like JP

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>Are we supposed to like or hate him?
Grow some balls and make your own options.

>wants to help

Shoot yourself. Peterson is a fucking fraud culling the herd to the slaughterhouse.

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you do whatever the fuck you want although he is garbage. useful idiot to draw attention from super secret ops

It's hard not to hate him because he's intelligent enough to know better

He’s a Jew, so you make your own decisions.

The Murdochs deconstruct his belief system quite effectively in their latest video RaceJam.

If you want to lose; follow Peterson.

>Am i supposed to like intellectuals
Up to you. I personally don't take intellectuals seriously.

Neither, to hate is to hold attachment and place meaning on such a trivial character such as this e shill celeb psych. The only future that awaits his esteemed name is a forgettable death as his way becomes outmoded for the future tribal state of society that inevitably forms when the current concentrated capitalists fail to correct the market effect of their usury turned into realized profitd and loss by those who actually posses tangible wisdom and not psuedo science pimped out for a dollar and pushed by targeted advertising to reach the inept incels of gen x y z being played as pawns by the satanic boomer pedo elite hippie scum.

Then how do you decide if you want to be part of the collective or not?

>we

Think for yourself you fucking cuck.

dunno, listen to him and make come to your own conclusion?

Newfags think Jow Forums is collective, kek.

Is one of many celebrities who make $60k+ from patreon picking low hanging fruit of SJWs

he thrives on the attention, don't give it to him. Its all he really cares about

Don't trust ANYONE who uses the term "reactionary" as a slut.
Their mind is colonized by Marxism even if they aren't openly Marxist, even if they aren't crypto-Marxist.

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Yep. I can smell them - this place has become rife with it lately.
Lost souls looking for meaning in pure consensus and nothing more, newfags in every sense of the word.

This place is a sea of ions, as it should be. If two agree on a thing, then so be it, but there will be no simpering, no gagging on the cock of a personality. There are no personalities. Only Anonymous.

>le gatekeeper strawman
Low IQ right here.

>supposed to

Make up your own mind Stormfag

He literally has no arguments against the critique the alt-right offers against hyper-indivualism. The guy literally does nothing but act as a stepping stone/gatekeeper to a significantly better answer to the phenomenon he pretends to address.

>but muh pseudo-intellectualism that I have others tell me about.
>what about hyper-individualism?
Are you fucking serious faggot?

>I will individually stop an invading army of foreigners
>muh NAP

Shoot yourself.

Because thw scientologists came here and tried to anti-shill him so damn hard we ended up liking him a whole lot more.

>Individualism means going full ancap

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nice try steve

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Unfortunately this. It's funny too because I watched the podcast with Joe Rogan and Rogan asked him if he's ever had a real debate with Marxists and he says no, because he's never had any real offers, because they know Peterson is right.

Yet he refuses to debate anyone knowledgeable from the alt right. And they've tried contacting Peterson. He either declines or ignores them.

So by his own admission in the context of his previous comments that I mentioned, Peterson won't debate is because he knows we're right.

With that says, the biggest fear of his is that people realize we're right, and up up committing a genocide. So he pushes individualism as much as he can to prevent such a thing. But at that point he's pushing against the natural order of things, which is ethnic homegenity.

If Peterson doesn't want an eventual genocide then the thing he should be promoting is peaceful ethnic nationalism, and individualism within that framework. Instead he's just slow rolling the inevitable.

He has _some_ very valuable things to say. I read his Twelve Rules book. It has some really useful ideas in it that will make you a happier, more successful person if you do them, but he also rambles and digresses at times. You don't have to love or hate him. He lives at the right edge of the Overton Window for academics. He's about as far right as you can go with out getting completely destroyed, which isn't all that far.

Peterson is just like anything else, there is good and bad and it's up for you to decide what you want to take with you. The people shilling against him largely don't want us discussing how to get young men to wake up and take ownership of their lives. They want them to stay asleep and for us to stay contained here.

Hes a gatekeeper/kike shill, but he has some good things and helpful advice in general. I feel he is really smart and everything, but he portrays a pseudo intellectual feeling when he talks and the choices of words he uses, notice how the words he uses aren't that complex (maybe so his students can understand) sometimes I can only grasp certain things he says and have to go back and fit it all in because his use of words are I guess more simple? Than understanding someone like Ben Sharpiro (another kike shill but has talking points).

You are not an individual, you never have been. You were born in a time and a place, and you are inextricably a part of them just as they are a part of you. The sooner you accept that and become an adult the better. There is no Western Civilization without a dominant population of Western people.

You aren't "supposed" to anything; make up your own mind about his analysis of clinical literature, but don't take it as absolute.

I'm an individual who prefers living in Western society because it allows me to continue being an individual.

His daughter married a Russian guy, so we must hate him. Only a cuck allows a Russian to dick his own daughter, what an embarrassment.

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>we

bucko

how about neither?

Peterson articulates himself we enough to make sense and be correct on issues the majority of the time.

He doesn't have ALL the answers, but he does present a stance that holds up well (and pushes back) against the forced prevalence of today's "Outrage Culture".

But look who is his competition?

>this classic post C-16 debate:
youtube.com/watch?v=kasiov0ytEc

The bearded "man" couldn't intellectually compete with Peterson at all. The old lesbian was at least courteous and respectful, but not entire correct herself.

These fringe groups scramble frantically trying to make their agendas solid, and the best they can come up with is:

youtube.com/watch?v=k-rE03PGQfA

>"So what you're saying is...."
>"So what you're saying is...."
>"So what you're saying is...."
>"So what you're saying is...."

....this is the best that the other side can offer.

It took Jim Jefferies to final stump him on such a simple question (but not completely):
youtube.com/watch?v=QO9j1SLxEd0
youtube.com/watch?v=j_XE-nTL4Ac&t=452s

TL;DR: SJW need to find someone to intellectually compete with Peterson, not some civil-right hero wannabe with entitlement issues.

do you really think you are an individual though? we are just as brainwashed into our paradigms as kids in saudia arabi,only we have two choices of varying shades instead of one.

He serves his purpose in the overall paradigm shift.

i like him. hes as close ass you'll get to a guy that can redpill liberal women

I love the passion brought to jbp threads from both sides

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Yes, I make choices I want. No one is forcing me to do anything, except taxes. I will aid in defending the western world because it is the morally correct thing to do.

Seriously, just read his book. It is so laughably bad, that even in today's society, I am shocked that he is still taken seriously after writing that garbage.

I happened to read Trumps "The Art of the Deal" just before it and can honestly say, if you're after a self-help book, read Trump. If you're after philosophy, then read this as an example of an incoherent worldview.

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I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but you do not choose what choices you are presented with, the social infrastructure surrounding you does, which is informed by the people who create that infrastructure and the environment they exist within. You do not have this "freedom of choice" any more than a Persian in 300BC. You are presented with environmental stimuli and your body responds to it with varying amounts of awareness. You do not have the choice to be any person besides yourself, in any time period but now, with any set of biological limitations but the ones you were genetically given by your parents.

I see someone has to double down on the black pill to win an argument.

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It's not a black pill, it's an honest assessment of reality. I understand that the one thing that radical centrists/individualists hate is interactions with reality, but unfortunately it is bigger than you alone, and you alone will not make it unless you work socially with others.

Black pilling is not reality you social retard.

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