Hello pol,
I am a member of a splinter group that has seized an archdiocese in a soft coup fashion from the Roman Catholic Church.
I would like to answer any questions that you may have to the best of my ability and to the extent practicable.
Hello pol,
I am a member of a splinter group that has seized an archdiocese in a soft coup fashion from the Roman Catholic Church.
I would like to answer any questions that you may have to the best of my ability and to the extent practicable.
What the fuck does that even mean.
An archdiocese is something akin to a state, if the Vatican is a country. Which it is.
Was it because Vatican II is not the catholic church, with a false pope of Satan leading it?
What is YHVH really and is he evil? Is He Jesus or was Jesus Lucifer or Ra or something?
Archdiocese is basically a district or territorial mechanism that is controlled by the Church and is responsible for all of the parishes within its reach.
Do you play video games? Think of the institutions around you (in this case, the organizational structure of the church) as forts on a big battleground to be taken and controlled - and by controlling a region, you control everything underneath it. So we took one.
When are you going to convert to Orthodoxy and become a WRO church?
Is there any hope that the church might return to a greater degree of traditionalism, or at least not shilling weird satanic / ecumenical / zionist shit and maybe ask Catholic Charities to please stop importing the caliphate?
Please be real
I’ve seen/read many different interpretations about what things like YAHWEH represent ; I’ve seen it as a name for a God. Or I’ve seen it used to describe an event.
Personally, i don’t know what it means - and I don’t believe in God as a deity. But my personally opinion is that YAHWEH represents an “AH HA! NOW I UNDERSTAND!” moment of clarity, where everything comes together and you know Truth
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Is the iPhone really what Christ would use? You'd think he would use the Android of the common laborer.
Which archdiocese?
Essentially - we completely disagree with the dialogue that the Church engages in with its people. And we also believe that the Church can do much more for you. We will try to make that known.
He’s not Satan, literally. We don’t believe in that. Satan is just a word we use for somebody who encourages you to commit sin (acting selfishly to betray the Godhead, and weaking your bond with such).
Opinion on the pope?
Opinion on the JQ?
Opinion on homosexuality?
Holy name in Chicago? I would recognized that crucifix anywhere.
1.why did your group commit this coup
2. What are your issues with the Catholic Church
3. What does your group believe
4. Am I going to hell for fapping?
Not sure if there is a good name for what we want to ‘convert’ it to - for example; devout Roman Catholics would be TOTALLY opposed to our message and actions - until we prove to them that the Church is corrupted and is betraying the masses by leading them astray and leaving them blind.
Start by making sure when the people are following along in the misselette and it clearly says "the Jews" that the priest doesn't say "the Jewish people" instead and think nobody is going to notice.
I don’t know - that depends on you. If more Christians decided to put their life on the line (and also planned with cunning and precision), you could probably change the Church overnight.
But- remains unclear to us is how much ‘change’ is considered acceptable before they determine the downsides of keeping us alive outweigh the downsides of killing us all.
Our changes that we want to implement will be slow, though. They will begin at the parish level in the form of rejuvinated dialogue with the people. We want to red pill them slowly, and bring the community together. Then we can false flag with the larger entities by encouraging the message to spread more broadly, and try to set an example for other territories to follow suit. If they don’t follow suit, it will be apparent that they are satanic in nature, and that we are the light.
Fake and gay.
The New Testament is an instruction manual to access the "Holy Spirit." Have you performed this process? Should average people? Why is it hated by the Jew?
I am not Christ - Christ would do a much better job of this than me or anybody I know. Despite being one of the most globally well-known and loved figures, I still believe that he is massively misunderstood, and underappreciated.
Can’t say at this point in time.
>I don’t know - that depends on you.
Well, you obviously have done some homework on whatever kind of soft coup that you are up to. What I would suggest is that is that it's been a good idea to try out different distributed "underground" venues such as Jow Forums with a certain accumulation of various kinds of Christians to get the reading and the dialogue you seek.
Build on that resonance and I think you'll see it start to creep in through real life.
>Satan is just a metaphor
Heretic detected
Why are you larping as a catholic?
Where's your proof?
Seems like a Archdiocese coup would get way more attention and coverage then a thread on shitty Jow Forums.
You are lying, if not you have managed to pull a coup in anonymity? Impossible.
Pope is a just a stooge filling a role that is just largely ceremonial in my opinion.
I think the people with the greatest financial, territorial grip over the world are esoteric jews - but I see Israel as being more of a bulletvest for the real puppet masters. In other words- they use Israel to enact territorial control; and they are shielded by Israel in the event of retaliation/uprising.
I’m fine with homosexuality; i believe the early anti-homosexual sentiment was due to the fact that it was a rampant disease-spreader, and also the high potential of man-boy sexual relations, which we detest.
I think the Church needs a much greater dialogue in regards to homosexuality - I believe it should be considered acceptable ; but outside of marriage, people should be having FAR LESS indiscriminate sexual relations with one another than what is currently occurring, regards of homo or hetero.
You also have no reason to not name your Diocese.
Its beautiful; hate to burst your bubble, but pic not related, user
Heretics get out.
From what I've seen, devout Catholics will generally be opposed to any split from the Vatican either way. Even now, indult traditionalists within the Church outnumber all the SSPX and sedevacantists combined. Don't you think that it's better to be baptized into a well-established traditional church than becoming yet another obscure schismatic group?
Alright, so we know it's not the Archdiocese of Chicago. There aren't that many archdioceses, so that narrows it down.
The thing is about sedevacantists is that they're literally protestants. As a Catholic, I don't see them any differently as those heretic protestants.
>fine with homosexuality
You can't be serious user, you shouldn't hate them, but you can't seriously believe priests should ordain two men in marriage, just so they can plow each other up the ass. It's an inversion of what God made us for.
1&2. We want to help people; specifically financially - one of our biggest manuevers we would like to make is re-ignite public disapproval of usury; and w want to use the archdiocese as a financial center for the people, and support lower class Christians in regards to business and education // and we selfishly loathe the restrictions/limitations on free-speech in this country. The dialogue has entered a realm of insanity, and we hope to re-introduce logic to the public, and encourage people to speak their minds to one-another.
3. We believe that the world can be better ; i was personally inspired by the High Level Insider threads from 2 years ago.
4. Not a place of fire; but a mental hell. Its an addiction. Try not touching your dick.. see? You can’t do it. Any stride in re-gaining control over your mind and body while you’re on this earth is a step towards the light.
If the Pope is actually evil, what makes you believe this thread won't come to his or his pals attention.
What will happen next is that you will be gunned down, because your IP is visible.
I know this because near all proxy/vpn is blocked on this site, unless you are possibly paying for one, or have Jow Forums+.
Proof?
If not. Then stop LARPing.
4? Masturbation is a mortal sin. Seriously, stop masturbating for a few days and it becomes obvious why the Church doesn't want you to do that.
It's freeing. You can finally direct that same sexual energy to actual women. In fact, women start looking beautiful again. It's really a great thing.
Swiss guarding coming for OP in 10, 9, 8 . . .
Hi Leo
Why did the Church systematically shelter pedophiles in the priesthood and why aren't pedos immediately turned over to secular police?
If the Church doesn't want me to masturbate then why does it take sexual sin and chastity so unseriously? Why are only 45% of modern priests even attempting to live celibately? Why is the entire hierarchy infested with a culture of sexual secret-keeping and secret toleration of sexual acts, especially homosexual acts?
SSPX?
Its my belief that if you are following your conscience then you are following the guidance of the holy spirit. As your bond strengthens and your inner-dialogue improves, it seems as though you have better clarity of mind, make better decisions, and gain the ability to understand and connect with people in a positive manner.
I think most jews don’t agree with the NT purely because that’s what they were told to do. And i think this sentiment has carried fourth from people who were too afraid to take a stand against their government, and accept that they may have been wrong about their own existence. They clung to the Matrix, so to speak.
Take seriously? Read the Catechism. Impenitent sexual deviants will be damned. Not many will be saved. The gates of heaven are narrow.
Have you met the lamb yet?
This isn’t a coup with guns and executions
A good childhood friend of mine has recently been ordained and apparently he’s going to be assigned or something to the church closest to my home. I haven’t gone to church in years because the current priest presiding over this particular church is big into liberation theology and he’s got charismatic renewal tendencies. My friend otoh is a staunch traditionalist and I’m sure he’d be open to something like that, what tips would you give me to plan something like that on the medium and long term. We are both from fairly wealthy and influential families in the region, if that helps at all.
You don't really speak like somebody who's been through seminary. So I would add that you should add context and historical knowledge as part of the basic idea of teaching.
Because its harder to be an outsider and convince somebody to come outside, than it is to be one on the inside and get them to follow you out.
The hierarchy of the Catholic Church is currently compromised by networks of sexually active gay priests who cover for each and promote their own. Very few bishops these days even believe in God, they are just working to protect their lifestyles of living large off the parishioners tithes and having orgies with each other and with any vulnerable person they can get their hands on.
The words of the Catechism and the acts of the Catholic hierarchy have almost no relation to each other these days.
There could be some evil dark energetic force that compels people to act selfishly ; i don’t know. I just know that you have the power to resist it and enact sweeping change if you want.
If that is true, so what? They don't explicitly preach heresy, so it's obvious the Holy Spirit is protecting the Church.
but he's right, satan is a title, lucifer is his name.
Heretics
Will you use this land as the beginning of the white ethnostate
Ok, you own a Archdiosese, the pope is a satanist shitstain.
Why don't you betray him right now and proclaim yourself an antipope.
How infected by Satanism is the modern church?
Unfortunately this.
It doesn’t matter how many or how few schisms there are. The Church and its dominions operate largely on the principle of Symbolism over Substance ; meaning, they each have their own practices, routines, minor differences ect - but they are all lacking substance.
If one division tells you that usury is sinful and needs to be abolished, and the rest are saying nothing; you tell me who you would prefer to follow.
>They don't explicitly preach heresy
They do, all the time, everywhere. Bishops in Germany who say the divorced should be allowed to take communion. Amoris Laetitia. John Paul II (one of the most vile and unrepentant heretics EVER) worshiping in synagogues and kissing the Koran.
No, I understand what it is. What I mean is, what the hell do you mean by 'soft coup' and all that. What's the difference between your supposed group and the catholic church? What has changed at the archdiocese?
I've observed most priests and parishioners don't believe in God or Christ. I've also observed the homo priests, who I am sure think what they are doing is funny. They sort of roleplay during the mass and seem to get a kick out of it. They think they are safe because they do not believe what they preach, they do not believe in a second coming.
Bishops in Germany: You're right. They are heretics.
Amoris Laetitia: Just confusing, but not EXPLICIT heresy.
JPII: Admittedly, kissing the Koran was not a good idea.
I agree with you that it goes against what are naturally working mechanisms for supporting flourishing life - but we are no longer in a situation where extinction due to lack of reproductive activity is an issue, and many diseases propagted by anal sex can be neutralized - therefore, its simply no big deal. Everything else is ghosts and goblins.
That said - I believe it is a genetic disorder, and I believe it will be ‘curable’, so to speak, one day.
>>Our changes that we want to implement will be slow, though
The only way to save your church is to start hanging pedofile priests publicly so the world sees you mean business about purging the kid abusers. And Catholic charities is a sham. Quit bringing shitholers into our country!
By soft coup he means larp
There are contingencies in place for that - also, everything on this site is satire, remember?
>and I don’t believe in God as a deity.
So you're a heretic who is going to somehow show the people of God that they're being led astray—while literally leading them astray.
You should be excommunicated from the church for your blasphemy, and I hope the wrath of God comes down on you swiftly. And I say this as a strong Calvinist with no dog in the fight, other than defending fellow Christians from wolves in sheep's clothing.
>And he said to his disciples, “Temptations to sin are sure to come, but woe to the one through whom they come. It would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck and he were cast into the sea than that he should cause one of these little ones to sin. (Luke 17)
>But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction. And many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of truth will be blasphemed. And in their greed they will exploit you with false words. Their condemnation from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep. (2 Peter 2:1-3)
No, he means
soft coup = a member of his parish's liturgy committee.
What's up with the sun symbolism associated with Jesus? Do the real Jews worship Jupiter and the Synagogue of Satan worship Saturn/The Cube? From what I can tell, Jesus is associated with the sun as the son of Jupiter/Zeus.
Why does the Vatican cover all of this up? It's impossible to know even what parts of the Bible aren't altered.
Some of the nofap blogs overblow the benefits of nofap; course, I’ve never gone longer than a month, myself.
But I think excessive masturbation leads to porn addiction, which leads to deeper and more depraved levels of pornography - this breakdown of self-control, particularly in males, leads to ruination of the family, which we lament.
This, OP. Are you SSPX, SSPV, sede vacantist, or what? Et, rogandum videtur an Latine sermocinari ac colloqui possis. Nam qui nescit sermone ecclesiae uti, is nil aliud efficit quam ut coram omnibus se esse larper (seu hypocritam) ostendat.
So, you're the bishop now? But only secretly?
Yeah almost certainly, but I don't even understand what kind of larp this is or what he's claiming to have done.
This is just a larp user
Catholicism is taking off big time in Africa. There will be a nigger Pope one day. Please let it be soon so I can laugh til I shit a kidney.
Basically this - it appears to be mostly mob tactics, but its a very sloppy job.
The fuck is going on in this thread?
Joke's on you. The African bishops are by far the most orthodox.
I would say there are plenty of differences in substance between the likes of the FSSP and groups like Nuns on the Bus. You could make the argument that they're all the same for not addressing the elephant in the room (Vatican II), but Francis would not have made the effort in purging the Curia of traditionalists if those differences were really just a matter of symbolism.
Sounds like a heretic desu. "We need to be a welfare office for people and not be mean to gays"
Encourage your friend to speak to his flock in the manner that you talk amongst your friends - with humor, honesty, crass-ness ect. Everybody thinks similarly in this world to an extent, but we’re all afraid to show it
No. But if we’re successful, you won’t feel the need for a white ethnostate.
OP is either a LARP or an atheist in a frock living on borrowed time
Not that simple - the world and its institutions are more inbred than they appear - there is a behemoth that is keeping you down, and it is terribly likely that we will ultimately fail.
I’d say just about any institution of power is corrupted. Your parishes are mostly okay; but it is kind of like how teachers in schools are forced to teach government approved lesson plans to their students, whether they are right or wrong.
Recte mones nec pathicos nec cinaedos nec socialistas, qui hodie appellantur corruptissimi latrones in re publica versantes, esse tolerandos. Illi enim contra naturam peccant, hi contra leges omnium gentium et communes.
The way to save the Church is to to give people an alternative and show people the light.
Is it impossible for individual church members to affect a spirit of persistence in individual parishes as it pertains to maintaining the teachings of the lord? Many churches are switched or deliberating a change to the liberal agenda to maintain a parish. I've noticed that older members of the church quietly lambaste the changing times of harmful immigration and the subversion of traditional church values. But new seminary students are applying their communistic pressures on the congregation. how can redpilled members maintain the church?
All the evidence that you need in order to know that the Church is well, strong, and orthodox is that people are still making up conspiracy theories about it. It's a timeless tradition, perhaps just as timeless and Traditional as the Church itself.
LARP. OP is an attention whore supper faggot. his mom is also gay. sage
Literally the opposite. The seminarians are more orthodox than their superiors.
Bro my Latin is super rusty. I haven't touched it in 5 years, go easy.
>sedevacantists have become so bored with themselves that they must now take their LARPing to the next level
Sad!
I’ll willingly take my divine smiting if I am wrong. But the goal is to help people; the Church isn’t doing all that it could be (actually, it is working against you) ; and we would consider it a small victory to help a few people in a literal sense, which is better than no nothing at all.
I believe that would make me a martyr in your “faith”, actually.
Oh, a lot of people consider him the funny loudmouth priest, and he’s good looking to boot, and I’m sure that helps a lot too. I meant more like specific stuff, maybe starting a bible study or prayer group to scout for other likeminded people?