Something something western women are ruined

(some rant about how all women are ruined)
>que 300 replies and 20 more threads of the same thing

Look I'm not saying I disagree, I'm just so done with women threads. They are disappointing guys... I get it. What now? How do we move on?

>inb4 lift
Yes I know. I'm in shape
>inb4 be yourself and confident
we know....
>inb4 they can ruin your life with divorce
I know......


I GET IT GUYS. I have heard every single variation of every possible response to this conversation at this point. What comes next? How do we rebuild?

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you got yourself in shape, awesome.
Now go teach others how

ROASTIES GONNA ROAST

Also the Jews won the war we are just survivors of the decline. Get a lawn chair and sit down grab a beer and watch the end

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Beimg a degenerate is fun. Being trad is not, why can't you faggots get this

What do you call the pill where you become established and than chase for younger woman?

>Beimg a degenerate is fun.
agree....slutting it up has its high points....low points being itchy and occasionally high stress weeks when you're late.

>>inb4 lift
>Yes I know. I'm in shape
>>inb4 be yourself and confident
>we know....
>>inb4 they can ruin your life with divorce
>I know......
Have you tried climbing a dominance hierarchy?
pick something heavy and climb it.
fixing our countries/culture is one of the most heavy task we are facing.

Here are your options
>learn arabic
>stop worrying and learn to love the cock
That's about it. No, sex bots are a meme. The most advanced automated (true conscious AI is a meme as well) technology we have still drives into walls the first chance it gets.

thot

I'm a pretty decent looking guy with a group of friends so I don't really have issues getting girls. I would be happier in a monogamous relationship but I don't see it as a realistic thing so my plan is to never get married and just embrace the hookup culture or having fwb. I might even get a girlfriend at some point but I don't think I will marry her if I do.

can't speak for everyone but I dunno what pair of socks I wanna wear most days so trying to settle on like....a real life dude person in the middle of my life is like a really stressful idea at the best of times. Dudes saying commitment stuff gives me panic attacks.

>Retake constantinople

the guys I know that have gotten into serious relationships are either being manipulated by a girl that is basically taking advantage of them or they got a girl pregnant. I don't know a single guy in a long term dedicated relationship that is happier than I am being single. Most are "pussywhipped" and unhappy.

Holy shit man I was thinking of making this exact thread!

do you have a jawline at least somewhat angular? are your eyes deep set? did you answer no to both these questions you bug eyed roundjaw? congrats, you are physically incapable of being attractive to a woman generally speaking. at best maybe if you try really hard and work your ass off with self improvement and working out you might be able to get a woman to settle with you briefly if shes lonely, but only until she can trade up.

and all along nobody will have any sympathy because its all your fault and you will die alone. and thats just a shit sandwich you have to swallow. even while the world tells you there is no shit sandwich there you are the one that has to eat it.

but if your face is fine then you might not be hopeless if you train yourself well. so if your jaw does have an angle and if your eyes are deep set and maybe you got some decent cheekbones. then you have hope, you have the raw ingredients not to get completely rejected every time in the first few microseconds

The next step is getting off Jow Forums after you realize there is a reason these are the only threads you see.

Jow Forums has been co-opted and free speech is being supressed for threads that keep you in a constant state of hating women or boomers or zoomers or talking ad nauseum about left/right paradigm politics.

The only threads that don't get shadow banned appeal to base emotions.

yeah thats a good point

if I have both of those things and am still an incel then what's wrong with me?

There's nothing wrong with you user. Women only want Chad now.

Get out of the house more, Get a decent haircut and clothes, learn few topics of interest, find a hobby that you can enjoy whilst meeting women and you will be fucking average to good looking women in no time

There's never been a social correction without an accompanying civilizational collapse

It's a Catch-22, since to re-establish good values we'll need to lose our advanced civilization. Either way we're backsliding into the toilet and there's essentially no stopping it.

>How do we rebuild?
Introduce traditional competition.

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Probably low confidence. Work on that through finding success in whatever you're passionate about, and in the meantime try to meet women who will introduce you to their shy friend you otherwise wouldn't ever meet because they never go out. Shy girls are more likely to be pure and sweet.

>t. guy who's gf has social anxiety and was the only virgin past high school he ever met besides uggos.

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Hmm looks like you made a mistake, you typed girlfriend instead of wife.

Fuck that image got me good, I need a qt3.14 shy gf
All the girls I’ve dated have been more outgoing than me and I’m pretty confident

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It doesn't matter how "shy" the girl is. She's still a woman.

Everyone has stuff

This guy gets it.

Are you fucking retarded? Just grab a pair of socks that are clean and go about your day.

>How do we rebuild?

We dont. You embrace your 2d waifu. You live your life devoted to her image and when you die, she will be there waiting for you in the afterlife.

There is no more noble life than that.

>lift
yep
>confidence
no shit?
>they will divorce rape you
here's the key

don't commit, don't let them trap you with kids, stack that money and don't let a women get her claws in it

oh you think you are going to miss out on these ig sluts and their tradthot counterparts?

here's the secret guys.. women have a reproductive window and it is a small one

men who are smart and save their shekels become more and more desirable and can have kids in their fucking 80s if they want to. getting married young is important for women assuming they want kids, but it's a terrible idea for men.

do not chase these dumb sluts, ignore them and let them know how fucking worthless they are. when you are 15 years older and have dedicated your life to success, the 22 year olds are not just going to be more interested in you, they are going to know exactly what the girls who are 22 right now did so wrong and why they're all bitter single moms.

3d women > 2d women

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Disgusting... the smells, the fluids, the annoying sounds...

I don't know what you mean.

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>asian women

1/3 of asian girls give birth to half-breed babies each year, they are literally the least racially loyal kind of female in america

That would be the "what american men have done for 400 years" pill. Unfortunately while everyone wants a qt who was born the same year as them and went to highschool with them, the reality is that on average there is historically a 3-5 year age gap between husbands and wives in the USA.

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Just wait for the collapse, things will fall back in to order. But a lot of people are going to have to die.

For me the solution came when I realized that the problem wasn't women - it was me. I was going after girls who flirted with me or smiled at me flirtatiously. What I didn't realize was that these flirty girls often flirted with tons of guys and loved the attention. They also often had issues that caused the to behave this way.

The big click came with learning to change my habits. If a girl acts unreliable or disrespectful even a little - walk away forget about her. Remember you're evaluating.

Don't go after the flirty girls. Find a nice girl that none of the other guys seem to notice and who seems to mostly just mind her business and go after her. Don't let her initiate, but initiate it yourself with smiles and eye contact.

I know guys here talk about hypergamy and how Chads get all the girls. The fact is the same thing works in reverse, there are a few very flirtatious girls who seems to attract all the guys and have several friendzoned guys all yearning from them. Learn to identify these girls and learn to quickly shut them down.

Train yourself to walk away from a girl who doesn't act right or who doesn't treat you or others nice. Train yourself to go for the nice girl. It's not easy because our natural instinct is to go after flirtatious Stacies who don't respect men and flirt with alot of men. It's also our natural instinct to latch on to girls who ignore us or treat us badly instead of moving on. You have to have self control, walking away makes the man. Walking towards the no-drama nice girl that the other guys don't notice, that's what makes a happy man.

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Yup

Fagget

There is nothing you can do yourself to change what women are. A "nice girl" is still going to be a woman.

Not all women are the same user -

the key is realizing that not all Western women have fallen to degeneracy, the key is that too often we men go for the degenerate ones even when the non-degenerate ones are around and waiting

shy girls are great man. Can recommend. I'm extroverted myself, so it works well as long as you both like those qualities in each other and know how your different personalities will come into play. Like I help her get out of the house a bit more and it's cute too me when she's so shy. And she likes when I take charge in social situations. Moreover, when I'm out and about all day it's nice to come home and relax with her.

>Not all women are the same user
>t. cuck

>the key is realizing that not all Western women have fallen to degeneracy
I've slept with women who were telling their boyfriends exactly what your girlfriend was telling you.

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That's not too far away

>Not all women are the same user
The vast majority of women are, so you can take your NAWALT "Men are the problem" rhetoric and shove it. White knighting for women will not save civilization. Weak men like you are why we're in this mess to begin with.

Lol, why is it in quotes? There are legitimately shy girls. And women are not so terrible innately, it's a product of societal degeneracy and modern men being made to reject their natural dominance. When you take control in your relationship and lead as a man should, your woman is able to express her love through submission. This is rare in modern times, and that's a major factor in how fucked male/female relationships have become.

I miss being this naive.

I'm not saying men are the problem, I'm saying the problem is that too often guys go after girls who are the problem

a pastor of mine was talking about it in church

All the guys at Church go for the same few flirtatious girls who love the attention.

Meanwhile there are tons of nice girls at church who can't find a guy and don't get any attention because the Stacies are taking it all up

You gotta realize the problem isn't degeneracy the problem is that too often we put up and actively go after degeneracy even when the non-degenerate are available

there is nothing next, western women are 95% kike brainwashed slaves that believe everything the msm spews to them. there is no hope for them

This is the most, absolute, hands down, most r*ddit post I have ever seen on this board. You managed to pack thoughtless platitudes into this post that I've never even seen before, while still rehashing the old ones. Bravo. Why don't you take off your fucking flag and show us who's really behind the "just B.E. yourself" meme?

it's not a platitude it's a fact. Hypergamy works in reverse too, just like the same few Chads attract all the women, the same few Stacies attract all the men

When your realize this and stop paying attention to Stacies you realize that there is a world of non-degenerate women out there

For one, white men have the common decency to not bring their wives and girlfriends to a march that will get violent, as all pro-white rallies do due to Communist attackers. I've seen white women still participate though. Other races don't fear bringing their women, because what do they have to fear? No one's going to attack them, no one's going to stop them. Only white get attacked for marching.

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Western women aren't ruined, you just aren't man enough to keep your woman under control. Stop being a faggot.

man not shown in pic at top

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>Lol, why is it in quotes? There are legitimately shy girls.
Who are still women.
>And women are not so terrible innately
Define terrible. Every woman is just operating on the same set of rules. Those rules are neither really good or bad. They just are. You will never find a unicorn. You will never find an exception.
> it's a product of societal degeneracy and modern men being made to reject their natural dominance.
Really? So when we hunted and gathered, what, men didn't provide for women? Oh they did? So they were betas? Betas are providers. Alphas are dominators.

So which were these men?
>When you take control in your relationship and lead as a man should, your woman is able to express her love through submission.
Because you're so dominant and alpha. Right. Now, what happens when you're at work?

So do I.

>I'm not saying men are the problem, I'm saying the problem is that too often guys go after girls who are the problem
>t. r/nicegirls.

>I know guys here talk about hypergamy and how Chads get all the girls. The fact is the same thing works in reverse, there are a few very flirtatious girls who seems to attract all the guys and have several friendzoned guys all yearning from them.

Basically this. Nerdboys who complain about not being able to get girls are running around trying to get with Stacys. Stacy is the female Chad: they have their pick of the litter, and chances are that you're not it. So stop going after her, because she's probably a vapid slut (if she wasn't, she wouldn't be talking with 20 different guys). My fiancee talks to a total of three guys: her father, her brother, and me. That's it. Girls don't have guy friends. They have male acquaintances. If a girl is giving more than the time of day to a guy, she's either leading him on or trying to get with him.

Beyond that, younger guys should be less mad at women their age and more mad at men older than them. Those older guys are typically sweeping up a lot of the younger women simply because they have established lives (live alone, stable job, own a car, has actual disposable income). Incels who live in their parent's basement don't measure up. Just getting ripped isn't enough to get an actual relationship. Sure, it *might* get you laid, but you'll just be nailing slags. If you want an actual relationship, work on yourself first. Be a fucking adult. Be a man. Women don't want boys, they want men.

Yes. It's men's fault.
>t. Jow Forumsnicegirls

that's not what we're saying nigger

Every woman thinks she's Stacy nowadays, hypergamy is completely unrestrained. The 80/20 rule is true, why can't you tradcons accept that?

Being physically fit has always been the road to attracting women. If not looking like a skeleton is a marker for not getting a woman than those characteristics would have been bred out.

>Nerdboys who complain about not being able to get girls are running around trying to get with Stacys.
Seems like it's what you're saying.

I'm not saying it's not true, all I'm saying is that the 80-20 rule works in reverse as well, as in all the guys go after the same few girls. That's why you get treated like shit, because chicks who have their pick of guys don't respect guys and treat them like they're disposable or shit or make them jump through hoops and test them all the time.

The trick is to break out of that and go after the other 80 % of girls instead of the few 20% who are degenerate. It won't gurantee success or no degeneracy, but your odds are a lot better than chasing Stacy

You woman worshipers drive me insane. The West is DYING because we let women off their leash.

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anyone actually kinda feel bad for women tricked by feminism? sister in law is one of those crazy purple haired SJW meme women. apparently 20 years ago she wasn't so ugly and nuts. she just refused to settle and hit the wall and it was all downhill from there.

Every woman is a Stacy. The only difference is that some of them aren't in social situations where they can express that.

>I'm not saying it's not true, all I'm saying is that the 80-20 rule works in reverse as well, as in all the guys go after the same few girls.
Show me a citation where that tests out. Nothing I have seen backs up what you're saying. Men are attracted to ALL women. Where as women rate 80% of men, as below average. There's a reason why the ugliest rated women get more contacts on dating sites than the most attractive rated men.

Quit sucking down Jewish propaganda and marry a woman before impregnating her a few times. Protip: (((white))) women in movies and porn are typically jewesses.

Ok, you don't seem to understand the 80/20 rule. The 80/20 rule is "80% of women are only attracted to the top 20% of men." Now back in the day this was stopped through strict social shaming and enforced monogamy, but now due to women worshippers that's all gone.

>lets just blame everything on females instead of considering modifying our own behaviour and not giving St*cies attention

Incel

>Every woman is a Stacy

No, all the women that men notice are Staceys. The bottom third of ugly/fat women are basically female incels who can only attract 90IQ ugly men

I'm going by personal experience and observations, but show me a study that shows that men indiscriminately go after all women instead of the same few girls, because that would surprise me

I do understand the 80/20 rule, what you don't understand is I'm saying it also applies to men, in that 80 % of men are attracted to the hottest 20% of women - that's why all the hotgirls have a few friendzoned duds following after her who would do anything for her. Fuck they don't even have to be hot anymore, just flirt a little

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institute proper heterosexual norms back into society like polygamy.

Good men, not betas, need to be spreading their genes and impregnating as many women, as often, as they can.

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It's a cleansing fire. Lots of women are throwing themselves off the genetic cliff and this will improve our race.
Low intelligence women go after non-White men. High intelligence women exclusively go after White men.
Women with personality disorders like histrionic or borderline are also problematic creatures. They are most likely to breed with non-Whites or degenerate elements.

Genetically speaking, the "White race" White Nationalists prioritise and value are actually just the most intelligent and healthy section of it. If we were to view that section of the race as a race unto itself you would be dealing with a race with an average IQ of like 130-140 and no mental/physical weaknesses.
In time, this will be what remains of the White race.

YES! Thank you German bro, that's the picture I wanted.

This is what the 80/20 rule is and no there is no '80/20' rule for men. It's a false-equivalence fallacy that for whatever reason I'm blanking on the name of.

This I’m a girl and I reject bug men all the time. Can we make this a meme to laugh at bug men with their ugly bug eyes haha!

Being a female chad is slightly easier and so a higher percentage of females are female chads than males are male chads. Any woman 7/10 and above is effectively a female chad.

>I’m a girl
Lol no you're not.

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Kill yourself, loser who's trying to drag down others

>no there is no '80/20' rule for men

proofs pls

the 80/20 rule is called the pareto principle and applies to every area of life from economics (20 % of people get 80% of wealth) to sales (20% of clients bring 80% of business)

I don't see why it would only apply to women but not men

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_principle

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Leafs have overtaken Aussies on the shitposting front

I'm married actually.

The problem is that our whole society has the male role split. Men didn't used to be Alphas and Betas. We go back just a hundred years ago, we can't find that anymore. There were men who were alive. And men who were dead. Men who couldn't survive didn't reproduce. And men who could... were beta providers and loving fathers in stable households.

Now we fight amongst ourselves to see who can best shove shit into women. Betas shove money and attention. Alphas shove dick and attention. None of it results in stable households and healthy White families.

But see the really insidious part about this narrative is that it creates SJWs and cucks like you. Because we're constantly told if we just are better and stronger and outcompete those other men, we can win. We can shove the most shit into women. And that's exactly what beta SJWs are trying to do, and it's what "Alpha" cucks are trying to do to.

And it's all a lie. Nothing any of us can do individually can stop women from being women. The only thing that can hold women in line is tradition. That is what has worked throughout history. Every time it's taken away you get Weimar. You get what's happening now.

The point is... stop fucking caring so much about bitches and work on our future. Or were not going to have one.

>t. incel.

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Have you had someone tell you to create a genetically engineered symbiote that will only allow her to find you sexually attractive?

Once that is done, all you have to do is implant one in her vergana, one in her asshole & one 9 inches past her lips. Then she's yours for life. Easy peasy.

He’s not shitposting bug men with bulging bug eyes are disgusting. I don’t even friendzone them, I don’t want to see them.

They belong in the refuse pile.

>I'm going by personal experience and observations, but show me a study that shows that men indiscriminately go after all women
See OKCupid study here:

Well this infographic should do the trick

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The burden of proof is on you to show the "Pareto principle" applies to men rating women, otherwise its just autistic speculation. And theres some German who posted the OKCupid graph above which shows the 8020 rule does not apply to men anyway

Hello shill bitch. I liked your article in times.

It is convincing - except women aren't really into looks the way men are, we like seeing attractive women, they look more for money and social status so I don't know if hotness ratings are really an effective gauge of who women will date

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cause they are thots?

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