Why is the goal of feminism to turn men into exactly the type (passive, submissive...

Why is the goal of feminism to turn men into exactly the type (passive, submissive, non-forceful) of men that women AREN'T attracted to? Isn't this counterproductive?

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It's called a shit test, you dumb fuck.
>Why do consumers want to check if my products are shitty before buying them?

Lift some weights you fag. And learn evo psych.

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the goal of feminism is to destroy society, brainlet
do some research into who funded these movements, what their goals are, and what historically has happened to countries that put women first

the (((people))) who installed their professors want to replace us with brown people

The shit test isn't what you're claiming though. It doesn't go away when you "pass". Being "shit tested" is a sign you need to shut it down. Not think deeper about your psychology.

women literally have no idea what is good

This might come as a shock to you but women are stupid and don't know what they want. Its our responsibility as men to take the lead by force and give them what they deserve.

You only got it half-right. The goal is to turn WHITE men into passive, submissive, non-forceful men. That goal doesn't apply to Arabs or niggers i.e. invaders.

Feminism's main goal is to subvert the female population into hating and pacifying their native male counterparts so that it is easier for an invading minority to colonize and reproduce with them. The white men don't fight back and the women get a stronger man. That is literally it.

It's just like how Jow Forums claims to want women to be submissive and traditional woman, but meanwhile half of the people here have secret femdom fantasies.

>and give them what they deserve.

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social conditioning, to induce the struggle of the sexes, to dispossess the common man of authority, opportunity and power in all realms of life - it's particularly insidious and destructive, because the European man's instinct is to protect, provide for and appease women, it's that instinct women are being taught to take advantage of

mind that feminism is a poison for the plebs, the ruling strata are unaffected and cement their power on the back of it

Because it wasn't affect chads, only betas.
Chads will stay chads but betas will get more beta.
That allows women to still have a partner they want but when they run out of money and decide to "settle down" they'll have plenty of nice guys to give them shit for free and worship them, some will allow them to continue fucking chad because they're literal cucks.

This. Stupid games = stupid prizes.

Consider the biblical myth of the Garden of Eden: God says, here's paradise, but don't eat this one tree and you can stay. Of course, women go straight to that tree and begin pulling fruit from it to eat. And it ruins us all. This was an ancient warning that women are not capable of considering the consequences of their own actions, and will be the downfall of any society where they are allowed large scale decision-making power.

Because women were enticed into feminism by campaigns to make the streets safe and end rape. Then feminism got infiltrated and the whole thing turned crazy. The same feminists who are still scared to walk alone at night are now told getting women into combat positions is a huge win.

> thinking that women know what they want as opposed to being led by men

You gotta long way to go user

This. If you dig enough you will probably find some psychological explanations, but at its core women are literal cattle who are just doing whatever they think is the order of the day. I.e what Shlomo over at the Washington Post tells them to do.

The goal of femenism is to divide the white race in two.
White women now identify with minorities some even consider themselves that.

Makes sense. In order to fetch the best males, being accepted and validated by most men is good strategy....so the question becomes - why in the pink fuck are the majority of men such limp dicked faggots

Because the only way for women to achieve anything is to destroy the superior competitor.

>Isn't this counterproductive?
That's because most women don't know what the fuck they want.
They impulsively desire something, but then when they actually have it, they realize it isn't as great as they imagined it would be.
This is why women's arguments consist of "MUH FEELINGS" and do not think of the consequences. All they know is that they want it now.

sub optimal solutions to choose weak male partners

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It is. Shit testing is women trying to find out if a man is a bitch or a man. She steps out of line and acts cunty and yes, you do shut it down or fail.

Thanks to technology and globalism and Jewish tricks women have collectivised to form a giant hysterical bleeding vagina. Women are shit testing the fabric of human society at a level of abstraction beyond mere individuals, meaning, you can be shit tested by these bitches without having ever met them even if you are chad and never personally fucked up.

So do men bare personal responsibility? Absolutely. Why were women given the vote? We see what it leads to. Collapsing birth rates, importing savages, rape gangs, destruction of all the pillars of western civilisation.Who allowed this? Men. This is a male problem. Women are livestock and the cattle have bolted out of the farm. We need to get them back in the enclosure, close the gate, and get them lactating and settled down again. And next time we catch the cattle rustlers trying to fuck things up again, gas them.

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>being accepted and validated by most men is good strategy
People, and especially women, take the media and entertainment industry as the correct opinion, and are especially affected when they are weak. This becomes very unfortunate when, let's say, a (((certain))) small group with malicious intent infiltrates it without the people knowing.

>why in the pink fuck are the majority of men such limp dicked faggots
Low testosterone levels becayse of a sedentary and easy modern lifestyle, which also makes it easier for weak people to reproduce. Chemicals, especially plastic.

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It's clear that feminists tend to be uglier and likely have lower self esteem and have developed an inferiority complex. Feminism is used by such women as a desperate attempt to increase their status, even if it's only enough to get ahold of some beta and their paycheck. Sometimes a feminist is delusional and doesn't realize she's too pretty to be a feminist, these women can be snagged and rehabilitated if desired.

the goal is to make it harder for men to hit on women, therefore only the bravest men will do

basically it's polygamy

This. Feminism has nothing to do with human nature, as people seem to believe. It's an ideology indoctrinating people just like communism itself.

Women are hardwired to need tribalism and security, men liberty and dominance.
The idea is that they see civilization to be safe and the natural attributes of men not to be needed anymore, so they force men into defeatism (rate of depression and testosterone levels proves this).

Think of everything that makes up a man and our civilization, it is just not compatible and we must fight back for our natural rights and liberty.

Feminists are lesbians. They want weak ineffectual males surrounding them so they can be the star of the show. Kind of like Sarah Silverman in her terrible sitcom co-starring a couple of Jewish faggots. Lesbians and jewesses can't stand out in a world of alpha men.

>what is a shit test
user, I..

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Women don't really know what they want. Ever wonder why they have a revolving door of friends? Always shopping and buying new shoes and purses. They are indecisive creatures ruled by their emotions. They do what their emotions tell them and then they create their own logic around it to justify whatever the hell whim they're on this week. The logic doesn't have to make sense to anyone else, just them. That's why they have a rotation of friends. They'll piss one another off and make no sense to each other.

To achieve true happiness they need to find a man that will control them and tell them what they want

>do some research into who funded these movements
Capitalism. Double the work force compared to other countries, and lower wages. Also soviet subversion. Like 60% or something of western feminists were jews.

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Consider my almonds activated

Nothing women do, make any sense. This is because they are driven by emotions that override any common sense they may commonly possess and when they do fuck up, they just that it\s not their fault and that you're being unfair to them.

The only real solution is to have it how humanity was for most of history - women are nothing, have no rights, and are completely secondary to men in every way.
And don't fucking tell me it's like that now in the west, because it is not.

Yep, this is it. In fact immigration was the biggest shit test for Western Man. We failed.

This is now a roastie hate thread

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feminists are angry lesbians
stop fucking forgetting it

Yes, but they get off to it. See for example:
>Shit test
Translation: being shit, and proudly doubling down on being shit.

It's a method of advance sorting of the chads from the cucks.

Because jews stay behind modern feminist narrative and they want white men to be weak, so they use everything cultural marxism provides them with: feminism, lgbt, transgender, "there are more than two genders", and other divisive shit which has only one global goal — make white men passive and submissive, and make a buck shekel while they do so.

Found the incel

Correction: it’s a method of castrating chads.

>Cavemen with dinosaurs

Bah my autism just went into overdrive

The only thing feminism advocates for is a societal role reversal where Women hold the power and Men do not. Every bit of dysfunctionality you see coming from both Men and Women stems from this upset of balance.

Basedboys and "strong women", it's all connected and traced back to feminism and women's "liberation", a liberation where they are destined to LARP as Men and die alone while our birth rates fall and our nations are replaced with "backwards" shitskins.

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Someone gotta foot the bill nigga. Jerome sure ain't.

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>god, I wish that was me.

Because women wants a peaceful world where they can educate their children, they want to eliminate every danger. Problem is, their reptilian mind also want a man to protect them from those danger, even if they don't exist anymore.

This shit affects minorities in Western countries too though

Because even the sluttiest of women will interact with far more men that they don't want to have sex with than do, its in their interest to not have to deal with betas being sexually aggressive.

To have female superiority.

>that webm

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That's what they've been led to believe using emotional arguments coated in mentalillnessfeelgoodshorttermgratification. Yup. They can't think for themselves, they're on brainwashed autopilot. Pity them and pound their pussies hard.

Feminism is a tool. It is only used to disenfranchise a culture and form a new anticulture.

Feminists don't want to see men they think are unnattractive, but they still want to get fucked by Chads.

you can agree with feminism without being a basedboy, woman like to be directed and taken in charge by a man,

THEY JUST DONT LIKE TO ADMIT IT

now just play the game correctly and you will get pussies

WTF i wrote basedboy and it posted basedboy? thats not what i wrote wtf

ONIONS BOY

I wonder the same. I know what you wanted to write. Starts with a S. Why did Jow Forums block this word?

THE WORD S O Y HAS BEEN CENSORED

Yes, but WTF, why?

Women can't compete on the same level as men so they seek to bring men to their level

>Why is the goal of feminism to turn men into exactly the type (passive, submissive, non-forceful) of men that women AREN'T attracted to? Isn't this counterproductive?

Men and women don't have the same biological goals, end of story. Women and men can have the same societal goals simply due to the fact the mans goals are the women's goals due to the sheer fact women follow whatever the top dog male does. The instant societal goals crumble and women become materialistic and slaves to their biological urges their goals become the complete opposite of mens and the two sexes are no longer co-operative players but rivals trying to outdo each other.

Imagine if you will an ideology called meninism, an ideology that seeks to turn females into what the average man desires. Submissive, a good mother, attractive, sexy, maybe a bit of fun and quirky personality traits here and there as long as the main ideals men seek don't suffer. Now realize that such an ideology already exists and is called society/civilisation. Men have absolutely no need for useless, land-whale,sjw, feminist females. These are what the Jews want and what women naturally decay to out of atrophy to not needing to try to ensure their biological goals are met(kids, safety, food) because government provides it for them.

Women on the other hand, when they are given the wheel of civilisation drive it off a cliff out of instinct. They don't want a society of all 10/10 supermodel, womanizing, perfect, uber chad males, all with 12 inch cocks and 7 digit bank accounts. For every one of those they want 99 utter beta male rejects. Doesn't make any sense to you does it? That's cause you're not a woman. Women only NEED one chad, one alpha male, any more is a waste. Those males may as well be her emotional tampons, her societal slaves, her financial freebies.

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Because Jews

Fucking newfags

Alright James, put down the tea mate. It makes you a tad nervous.

so what im a newfag? why cant i write s o y?

im thirteen years old i dont give a fuck

What did he mean by this?

Because most feminists are the type of women men aren't attracted to (fat, loud, stupid, and obnoxious)

This camera shit is one of the gayest fucking normie memes ever posted on here.

Disgraceful.

What others said, to filter the weaklings out.

Feminism has always been about women pursuing their animal urges to mate with high status/ alpha males.... now that they realized that does work out within a monogamous framework they want to push men into two camps..... weak passive men who will be the "husband" and pay all her bills or alpha stud chad who she calls over late at night to pound her silly. I live in a ground zero liberal state so I can see first hand these "open relationships" are spreading and ramping up. the end game is nothing short of pure cuckoldry....

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Feminism is essentially a giant shit test that has been given validity and grown out of control for the sake of making the population more malleable.

Most feminist are dykes who have penis envy.

this scares the tradcuck

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The devil is trying to run the world backwards to destroy it, moron. Its par for the course.

1. Increase the difficulty level for men
2. Cull out the weak
3. The survivors come out stronger, smarter and better
4. Mankind gains as a whole

Mass replying is nigger-tier behavior

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>letting women decide the genetic destiny of the race
What are you retarded?

Feminism is counterproductive. More news at 11.

PSA for angry idiots browsing: 3 betas will kick your ass no matter how big you are
This is the Achilles heel of feminism, and why women must never be allowed control over mate selection again.

You have not fucked a bad bitch ever in your life
It’s not a test
Men and not products and woman are not comsumers
Woman are the product and they crave to be asserted as such
When you advertise yourself as a men you are showing a huge gap in confidence
Good shit sells itself

he gets it

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underrated

not my fault the tradcuck hyennas flocked in here with their tradcuck bullshit.

>good shit sells itself
Good advice here

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Because birth control (the pill) makes women more attracted to passive, submissive, non-forceful men rather than traditional men.

>women ACTUALLY believe this

Why do the betas use the 1 alpha vs many betas falacy everytime?

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This is the only correct answer.

Civilization is the product of neurotic betas being given the opportunity and motivation to build complex systems. The selection process you describe is counter-productive for a society of any sophistication

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Feminism isn't about creating a wholesome society in which men and women can enjoy their lives. The sole purpose of feminism is transferring power from men to women.

>why do people use this reasonable point that I stupidly misidentify as a fallacy
Because humans speak and can organize at a level beyond other mammals, brainlet

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so?

Why do women support 3rd world immigration? So others will be the underclass and not they.

because feminism is a jewish device to destroy white nations.

one day, son... one day you will know that while not all kikes are implicit in the world we see today, there are quite a few that truly deserve to be tortured and murdered by furious mobs of white people...

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"alpha" Germanic warbands got BTFO by organized manlet Roman legions for hundreds of years