Is the Stem Family the ultimate Redpill ?

Well, Rimania is cut in two between Communitarian families in the south, that might had actually supported communism, and nuclear families in the north.
Anyway this is more of an historic map since every family is basically became nuclear after WW2

Romania*
Basically became*

So the message is that people in communities where the highest rank and leadership was achieved through competition and hard work were much more successful than communities where the highest rank was achieved through inheritance?

Do you imply that Stem Families were not hardworking?

yes but it would be nice to find some non-frog sources

No mate. I imply exactly what I said. Hard work made better people. There is a saying that work is what raised humans out of the animal rank

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I don't have much since my main sources are two french authors who discovered and rediscovered these patterns
I don't think their books were ever translated, unfortunately

Yes we know the most innovated times of civilization came from monarch/dynasty rule through a ruling family. The problem is they lost in WW1 in favor of communism and capitalism. Now its consider taboo if not less compelling than NATSOC or fascist or Imperialisms.

Oh right, I misunderstood. Well, basically yes. But the family system can be of a great help. Both Absolute Nuclear Families (Englan, the USA) and Stem Families valued meritocracy
Egalitarian nuclear family (France, Spain) still value hardwork, but you advance in society mainly through your network

nigger you just want your family to direct your life for you because you've been unable to do so yourself

Although I agree, it's not the question here ; England , Spain and the Netherlands are still constitutional monarchies while they are mostly composed of nuclear families

No. I want to live with brothers in nation, not neighbors

Because the west lost the cultural war with communism. If Central would of won or even no war to being with. Constitutional Meme would be gone. You have to remember the communism awakening during the 30s and 60s. It destroyed western the ideal of steam family. The nuclear family was a response to the nonsense of communism was spreading. But like you said, the nuclear family concept was based on hedonistic philosophies.

I should mentioned during the 20s and 60s

is this some Crusader Kings shit
cause im down for that

What's the type of family around my cunt?

>Historically, Stem Families occupied the territories coloured in green
>german culture ended west of the oder historically
Saged

Communism had a negative impact, but liberalism (as in the political sens) had a much bigger impact
Nuclear family isn't based on hedonistic values, but it does for sure make it easier to engage in hedonism

A birth rate crusade, sure

Weak Communitarian I guess, which might resemble Stem Family

I didn't make the map, it might take the ethnic cleansing of Poland into account

no i mean, it sounds like you want to go back to dynasties and multigenerational family planning
both of which i support fully, but see little hope for

No one outside of hip urban centres supported communism in Romania. It was a thing in university cities like Bucharest and Iași. The average Ion was vehemently opposed to any attack on his or her property. I don't think you're aware of this but before the communist regime we had some of the most liberal gun laws in Europe (the state had tried to ban and confiscate guns in Romania since the 19th century, with little success; the communists managed to do it because they had help from the Red Army). Romanians had a culture that was similar to the wild west in the US (which is the country that has by far the most individualist culture on the planet), especially in the southern-western region of Oltenia (which was home to most haiduks, google the term) and the northern parts of Transylvania: fiercely independent and autonomous. The rule was and is "mind your own damn business".
This is why the Ottomans never managed to outright conquer and hold the Romanian principalities (settling for claims of suzerainty over the territory instead) -- Romanians were a nightmare to deal with; even though the Ottomans had more military wherewithal and could defeat the Romanians in war, controlling the territory was nigh-impossible/too costly because the local population was too rebellious and uncooperative. Kinda like the Cossacks in Ukraine (which from that map has the same nuclear family structure).

Communitarian families were a thing in Romania only among non-Romanian ethnics. That's why they were present in the south where we used to have Turkish and Bulgarian communities, especially in the Dobruja region (which was not even Romanian territory for most of its history before the 19th century; at first the area was colonised by the Greeks, then the Bulgars, and then the Ottomans).

Do you have that picture in English?

Ok, thanks for the clarification. This is somewhat true for most ex-USSR countries, which might explain why it fell apart

Unfortunately no. I may recreate the subject with a translated map in the following days
Ask me if you want some precision

The nuclear family has been the norm for centuries in certain parts of Europe (like Romania or England, as shown in that map, which rings very true to me). It has nothing to do with hedonism, and everything to do with not wanting to be stuck with your relatives until you kick the bucket. What's so hedonistic about personal responsibility? The fact that you're expected to take care of yourself does not preclude you helping others.

Sadly in Catalonia the only thing left is the inheritance law where the eldest son gets everything unless you specify otherwise in your will. But yeah, in the past the eldest son received the house and land and had to take care of the parents and grandparents and as you said help the rest of the family in case of need.

Nah the whole thing is about legislation. In some parts of Europe traditionally everything was split among the sons equally and in others the eldest son got it all. As an example you can see how the Frankish Empire was split in 3 and this will help you understand that the Primogeniture was designed to keep the patrimony together.

Family is not really necessary. The main problem is obviously shitskins and anyone who disagrees is an autistic virgin.