Work in Silicon Valley

Sure it would be
But these meals aren't worth a penny
These meals are worth thousands of dollars a year
That's income without paying income tax
They're straight up cheating their taxes
They're banking on the IRS doing nothing
quora.com/What-Silicon-Valley-companies-regularly-serve-free-meals-to-their-employees

You do realize we're mostly libertarian leaning people larping as natsoc right? If a company wants to do something that is otherwise legal let it fucking do it. Fuck this creeping authoritarian bullshit.

This is probably bait anyway.

>be employer
>ask why all these companies are so rotten to their employees
>"I'm gonna do it differently"
>buy food, pay taxes on that food
>hire people to make food, pay taxes on their labor
>give food to employees, get taxed again

no good deed goes untaxed

no, they will move operations to Texas, Nevada and Montana and shut up that place too.

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That's not how it works
SV companies are America's biggest corporate welfare queens
They buy the food, AND write it off as a business expense
Then pass the food they just used to pay fewer taxes off to their employees as a perk
Those employees accept it gratis and don't pay a dime in tax
While the rest of us chumps are paying taxes on everything we eat
Our taxes are being used to feed their overpaid asses for free

>Bring a homemade sandwich to work
>NO THAT'S ILLEGAL YOU MUST PAY YOUR LOCAL SHOPS!
sometimes I'm glad to not be Amerimutt

>illegal to pick up a bagel
You sir are a retard. Good day.

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I can assure you
Texas doesn't want them
Look, Trump's been looking for a way to fuck with Amazon and Bezos
This would be a top kek way to do it

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They're not getting more tax back than what they paid for the food though. If anything, they might get 5 cents on the dollar back. They're not saving money at all by doing this.

Taxes are just legalised theft, why would anyone want to be robbed?

OP is a faggot

They are bugmen

It adds up

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> evade income tax
or
> company creates additional jobs and pays additional overhead and pays taxes on it anyway and the local government strongarms them into doing more shit for them because fuck ancapistan

>we're
Fuck off leaf, silicon valley is a Jewish haven their companies can eat shit.

Thank you
I was beginning to wonder if this entire board had been commandeered by the shills
This would be the perfect way to fuck with those SV shits
Audit them
Audit all of them
There's years worth of unpaid taxes and they're all guilty

Shouldn't they be forced to pay for the homeless hordes and out-of-control spending the Commiefornia government does? They aren't paying their "fair share".

>The deep state shadow government seems to not like it when they are losing money.
Government made the valley.
Seems like no one cares.
These Cronies need to fall and allow honest people to rise up. I hate when the government allows on company to win and another to fall.
Amazons postal deal.
DARPA tech in the hands of card board deep state shills. {ZUCK} Apple Tim cook. {Bill gates} All them niggas who are not self made. No matter what the media tells you.

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>give out something for free in a private interaction
>REEEEEEEEEE MUH TAXES
I keep thinking I've seen peak california and I keep being surprised

I live in SV. It's really nice community, but frankly, the fucking people's views are all messed up. This bubble is fucking retarded. No to gun-control, trump and yes to fucking commies, socs, abortion, and all the fucked up shit.

>you aren’t allowed to eat for free reeeee where’s my cutt?????

Agreed
These companies are deep state central

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>Commie governments so fucking hungry for your tax dollars they think employers feeding employees is tax evasion
>Forgetting the employer already pays tax on the food they serve and on the wages of those who prepare/serve the food
Don't you greedy socialists ever stop?

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Fuck off statist nigger.

So glad to live in flyover country.

This would actually improve California. The problem is too many of those faggoty retards live in a bubble and don't have to step over literal shit-strewn sidewalks in san fransisco or see all the aids and heroin addiction that creates walking zombies everywhere so they think it's just a cheery little place that other people "don't understand." kek.

You can charge anything you want. Even gift cards perhaps

Lol I use AMD. Ryzen > Intel bc it cost less at better performance.

fuck off i dont live in cali and my company gives me free daily lunches as well

Free food for your employees is not a federal tax crime. The IRS has nothing to do with this. If the food is provided for the convenience of the employer and on site then there is no problem.

26 U.S. Code § 119

law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/119

Local government is just responding to bitching from local restaurants. They want to restrict freedom to get their slice and buy votes. Do not attempt to restrict my freedom as a business owner.

not to be a corporate bootlicker, but every employee can invite guests so at any given day, facebook google etc are literally providing breadlines for:
> employees
> staff
> people interviewing
> people on business
> employee's families, friends, and friend's of friends

Fuck big government and all of their overbearing taxes. We had a revolution for much less.

It's already been pointed out ITT that it's purpose is a benefit that supercedes convenience. If you think the cost of fb headquarters producing one vegan burger for an employee is the same as the cost that employee would pay to a shop outside, you're a fucking moron. Ergo to "eiliminate" the "free-food program" tech companies would have to increase their employees' salaries by another 25-30,000 not 10,000 to attract the same level of talent and cover the same cost of living. It's not that hard a fucking concept you social media cocksuckers. You think tech cos just dedicate massive areas of their developmental space and millions of dollars dumped into french fries because they're "good guys"? Get the fuck outta here.

Tax his land, tax his wage,
Tax his bed in which he lays.
Tax his tractor, tax his mule,
Teach him taxes is the rule.

Tax his cow, tax his goat,
Tax his pants, tax his coat.
Tax his ties, tax his shirts,
Tax his work, tax his dirt.

Tax his chew, tax his smoke,
Teach him taxes are no joke.
Tax his car, tax his grass,
Tax the roads he must pass.

Tax his food, tax his drink,
Tax him if he tries to think.
Tax his sodas, tax his beers,
If he cries, tax his tears.

Tax his bills, tax his gas,
Tax his notes, tax his cash.
Tax him good and let him know
That after taxes, he has no dough.

If he hollers, tax him more,
Tax him until he’s good and sore.
Tax his coffin, tax his grave,
Tax the sod in which he lays.

Put these words upon his tomb,
"Taxes drove me to my doom!"
And when he’s gone, we won’t relax,
We’ll still be after the inheritance tax.

you're missing the part where it's a bad thing that should be punished

>muh facebook is really just a charity guize
Seriously neck yourself, clown.

Food provided so they don't leave the campus and get back to work in a timely fashion. This is indeed for the convenience of the employer, these employees are incredibly valuable; when someone costs $60/hr a $4 meal that gets them back 5 minutes earlier is profitable. Mass produce it and you can get costs down to $2.

>structuring your business to a tax advantage is now tax evasion
lmao the absolute state of socialists

DON'T TAKE THAT DEDUCTION GOY, IT WOULD BE LIKE TAX EVASION

They should offer whatever they want to their employees. Free market > government managed markets.

You're missing the part where if it supersedes convenience to become an actual benefit to employees that attracts them to the position then it clearly is in violation of current tax law and should be punished regardless of what the fuck you think about it until that law changes.

Taxation is theft. Fuck all statist boot lickers like OP. Oh and hi IRS

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>business cafeterias are ok
>except when they become really nice

1. give pay plus company store rewards
2. food isnt free, employees chow down
3. reward isnt taxable unless flyer miles are as well
4. flip bird to local governments, play loophole hockey

Good post, for a leaf

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meant for
not everything that attracts employees is considered a benefit for tax purposes, read and understand the case law (you can't)

You're also missing the part where it's California state that's punishing them for evading state tax as well, so if the liberals in that commie shithole actually believed all the bullshit they spew they would be rewarding tech companies for following a communal model, but no they're clearly only money-grubbing hypocrites. I could honestly do without another intel anything for the rest of my life if it meant the shithole of California and it's double standards could be nuked tomorrow.

I've already read the case law and explained it clearly in my post to you. It's a tax benefit for the employee AND employer. How fucking stupid are you, precisely? Both parties save TAX money and cut the government out of a large slice of income tax at the same time on both a state and federal level.

It's not advertised as a benefit on job listings. It is something done for the convenience of the employer. Breaks are open ended, but they want people to come back quickly and put in more hours. You can't have relaxed freedom while pointing to the clock, so you add time saving conveniences. Employees stay relaxed and work more hours, offerings are minor.

I am saying that you are WRONG. It's the local area that is attempting to enforce flimsy local regulation. Either way, it's pro tax and anti-freedom. For that reason alone you can go fuck yourself.

What you are doing is LEFTIST. You aren't happy that someone has something you don't so you try to take it away from them. You should be demanding provided lunches and perks or creating a business that does this.

How does Silicon Valley not have the power to fight this?

rich commies live in insulated bubble and bury their head in the sand over how bad it really is
FORCE them to go out into it and see what a nightmarish hellpocalypse shithole all their corrupt as shit politics and politicians have caused
>"i bet capitalism caused this, true communism has never been tried"

>I clearly explained it already
>nothing you've written explains a distinction between a benefit and a benefit that can be taxed
because you're wrong

is the location of the job a taxable benefit? is the existance of parking spaces a taxable benefit?

frequent flier miles? offering classes for personal or business benefits? being in a nice part of town so you are robbed less often by niggers resulting in more total income? more security so niggers can't rob you?

only decent argument for the tax in this thread desu

so where does facebook buy the food from? i mean, it has to come from somewhere. would make sense for them to buy it locally, in bulk. were they shipping it from chinkland or something?

People making six figures aren't swayed by mountain dew, bagels and cold cuts. It's not quality that they get, it's convenience. It's entirely within the letter and intent of the law. It's not like they steak and caviar.

If it's sufficiently expensive food then it can be income. All that depends on the benefit to the employer. It has to justify a time savings.

You haven't cited a single case. You haven't read any case law. You haven't even read the tax code, you instead are referring to the publications.

if im self-employed am i allowed to eat at home?

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Cutting the government out of tax revenue isn't a bad thing, Chaim.

>if it's sufficiently expensive
I don't recall reading anything like that when I was going through the cases last week

no, staying at home and not having to use gas is a conferred benefit and you and your employer are evading taxes LMAO

I’m not who you originally replied to, but I make next to fucking nothing at my supposed ~comfy tech job~
I don’t get paid the whole time I’m there bc some stupid loopholes in the law I think
I am carrying my parents debt and hospital bills
I can’t even afford rent I pay 50 dollars a month to use the address and occasionally the couch of a dude who i work with so I can have something to put down on my employee forms
basically my only food is what my company feeds me this would straight up wreck my shit if I couldn’t have the free food any more

Saves you time relative to going out, it's provided to all employees equally. Keep it minimal and you are A-OK.

>not allowed to feed employees voluntarily as an operating cost at the expense of profit

SF won't even allow employers to make less profit while making their employees' lives better. The fuck.

You didn't go through any cases you phony.

It's all a part of de minimus. I can start serving gold leaf steaks with $30 in gold flakes on each steak. That's clearly not for your convenience.

I honestly don't care what someone else has, what I'm telling you is plain and simple as fuck. They both benefit financially from the transaction and cut the government out of tax revenue. At present, it's illegal and needs to be punished. If we want to foster more communal models then the laws need to be changed but until that happens it's still fucking illegal you dumbshit. Clearly it's you who doesn't have a fucking clue about the case law or what constitutes a "benefit" versus a "convenience." Clearly never played anything athletic either because it's the same model that basic collegiate recruiters use to avoid laws about bribery and gifts. You're playing willfully fucking stupid about something because you're too busy jerking off Zuckerberg but it's cool. You're just wrong and retarded as fuck.

Leftists hate success. It's really that simple.

When both parties save substantial amounts of money and doing so would easily attract talent to one firm over another it's a clear benefit and supersedes the "convenience" of a free cup of coffee. tech companies would literally have to shell out 3-4x more capital to account for the same standard of living for their employees meals while the employees are drawn to the fact that they don't have to add commute, don't have to leave work, and don't even have to pay in the first place for meals they normally would have (thus avoiding massive amounts of sales tax in a given year). Are you fucking stupid or just 12?

They just want their cut. Just like the mafia

You're also playing fucking stupid. When that "mountain dew, bagel, and cold cuts" is offered free of charge instead of them having to go out and purchase it themselves and thus pay taxes on it then it's a clear benefit that attracts talent and would have to be supplemented by the employer in the event that it didn't exist in the first place which would be done in the form of MORE income and thus MORE income tax, idiot.

Paragraph breaks my dude. You write in a single stream of pissed of envy. Cite some fucking cases Mr Case Law.

De minimus meal benefits require that the items be impractical to account for, widely available, not tied to hours worked and for the convenience of the employer. They even specifically mention coffee, donuts and soft drinks.

Guess what? You can easily spend $5/employee/day on these things. It's all de minimus, it's all small enough. Bags of chips, cans of soda, bagels? All that shit is equally minor in terms of cost.

They aren't being served steak. The meals are not opulent or expensive. They are mass produced grab and go type items designed to save time. It's all within the letter AND intent of the law.

I'm not arguing whether it's good or bad, I'm saying it's currently illegal and the faggots whining about it in this thread are the same morons that scream "am I being detained?!" 100 times when a cop finds a crack rock on them or something. If you're breaking the current law, it's illegal. It's really that simple. Laws don't just flip-flop back and forth on how you're feeling on Tuesday, cuck.

>City will not allow a new office development to have a cafeteria with free food for employees.
>The restriction aims to increase business for local food retailers
How is this legal? Why would you ever want to move your business to a city that has pulled something like that?

neither of you have established that your gay standard of convenience vs benefit exists as to this situation

you're writing paragraphs around the issue we are criticizing

The law allows de minimus food benefits. I don't know what to tell you man, it's your own soruces. The things provided on the campus are indeed de minimus and for the convenience of the employer.

>Self-proclaimed communists won't allow employers to make less profit while making employees' lives better.
It's almost like every leftist clamoring for socialism is full of bullshit and hypocrisy, right?

>fill city to brim with homeless
>push tech companies and their employees out with retarded taxes and regulations
>omfg why is this detroit by the sea!?!?!?

Christ dude, I don't know how many times I have to say it. It's not illegal to provide de minimus food benefits to your employees. These employees are very valuable and things that save their time are very worthwhile. The cafeteria is not an advertised benefit and the people earn so much that it is not a deciding factor.

This isn't plebbit "my dude" take your faggot ass back to your tranny hideaway because you're about 100 IQ points short of being allowed here.

They should just start charging employees 1 cent for the meals rofl

If you read my fucking posts I absolutely do. Simple math, if your employee costs $60/hr then a savings of 5 minutes is worth $5. If you allow open ended breaks and they take their breaks on campus you will easily save 5 minutes by making these things available. Give away less than $5 in stuff and it is both too small to be practically accounted for and for the benefit of the employer.

STEMfags getting rekt

Foster City here. This shit is fucking gay. What if all the employees bring their own lunch?

God I fucking hate this
>Be apart of our shitty over priced and over crowded community when you have shit to do and eating at work would be so much faster than sitting in our restaurant while you have to wait a long fucking time after traveling a long ass time in ass traffic

God this region needs to sink into the faults around it.

It's not "de minimus food benefits" when it's at least 1/3 and sometimes 1/2 or more of someone's entire food budget in a year, you incredible imbecile, which it is because the caf's are open 365 and employees eat at least 1 meal if not 2+ each day there absolutely free of charge.

So much anger. I will post however I want while staying on topic. Freedom of speech has been Jow Forums virtue since 2003.

>i absolutely do
you did it again, I ask for the standard and a showing that what you're saying applies to what you're saying it applies to and you write another paragraph of conjecture

why do I care what you're opinion is? I don't

De minimus is often considered to be around $10. Anything less than that is considered to be an undue accounting burden. It doesn't matter if it's $5/day for 210 working days, each instance is still impractical to account for and for the employer's benefit.

These people aren't hoarding meals like you think. They are fucking rich. They aren't slogging down cold cuts to save a buck like you might be tempted to,.they can afford better.

What the fuck are you even saying.

I explained that it's a benefit to the employer because it saves employee time. Employee time is money. It's small enough to be de minimus.

Therefore it is completely legal by federal standards. The article doesn't even mention federal standards and is instead about local restrictions on new construction of on-campus eating facilities.

Plesse try to stay on topic. There is an article that is being discussed.

If you think you can go get a steak in downtown san fransisco for $10 or less I don't know what the fuck to tell you. Have a look at the zuckberg's cafeteria menu dipshit, it's not coffee and bagels and it's sure fuck not the $5-10 per employee that would qualify as "de minimus." Making 200k in SV isn't shit and barely puts you above the poverty line because the cost of living IS that high. If you think employees aren't taking advantage of free meals when some of them are living in fucking cars their first few months there and showering at gyms you don't know shit about shit.

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This is the truth and why I am leaving this hell hole.