I've about given up and took the black pill. religion is necessary for the plebs. talk of philosophy, agreement of definitions, etc - it's too much for the normies.
Is there a way to stop degeneracy without (((religion)))?
Brody Wright
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Carson Rodriguez
I doubt it. Without tradition and faith people's beliefs become based on pop culture.
Xavier Jones
your graphic is fine, i just think you're missing the last bit:
>>all religion is based on philosophical truths spoken in a way that the mob can understand. bread and circus is a requirement, not an abomination.
Adrian Long
One of the benefits of the destruction of Western public education by the Jews is the complete lack of understanding and awareness of our philosophical and intellectual heritage by the average person, or "normie." There is a 2,500 year-long conversation about these matters, in which all of the major questions have been addressed: is there a God? Where does morality come from? Why does God permit evil? What is Good and what is Bad, and does it matter? Are there absolutes, or is everything relative?
Now, when such questions as these are asked in public, they are used as a single counter-argument to the entire existence of religion. Because no one knows. No one knows what was said before, what was explored before, the entire landscape of the discussion. This is what the Jews have done - they have blinded you, made you dumb. You have no idea of the rich, expansive, wonderful territory explored by the minds of your forefathers.
So, my advice: start with the Greeks. And pretty much avoid anything written after the 19th century.
Colton Roberts
There's literally nothing wrong with society. You just believe that for some reason it's your problem and that you have to do something about it. In a sense it's a form of escapism, because you're likely ignoring your own personal problems and procrastinating in general instead of focusing on improving yourself and your life, due to how "pointless it all is because of whatever reasons you believe are destroying society", which aren't your problem in the first place, nor can such issues be tackled by any one individual. If you want to live up to some kind of Christian ideal, you should try to pursue it yourself, instead of moaning about how it's impossible. If not, just take it easy and drown yourself in entertainment, like the majority of the west is doing. Not like it makes any kind of difference in the end, unless some kind of afterlife does exist where we'll be all judged based on our actions in life, which is actually quite outrageous if you think about it. Not impossible, of course, but I personally refuse to believe in such hell.
Christian Wright
I love the Greeks, and suppose I'll be on /lit/ more in the future...I'm just devastated that the picture or "hope" of educating the masses is entirely way, way too optimistic.
I'd wager there's a lot of projection here. I can agree that anyone who feels they have knowledge wishes to spread it, but in no way do I feel responsible for all of society. I have my own problems I'm dealing with - but in general at the small scale, it's a sad state of affairs when both sides of your own country, for the most part, completely fail at attempting to think critically. Reread what I posted above about religion - there are truths, but they are fundamentally bounded outside of it. In no way am I complaining about some impossibility. I'm quite literally asking what the Op title states.
Benjamin Taylor
>I love the Greeks, and suppose I'll be on /lit/ more in the future...I'm just devastated that the picture or "hope" of educating the masses is entirely way, way too optimistic.
More and more people are home schooling, the world is waking up. don't lose hope.
One of my favorites:
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Elijah Ward
Read the catechism or even easier 'Catholic Christianity' by Peter Kreeft. Think about what a society that internalizes these morals and ethics would look like and you'll see that Catholicism is the only answer.
Easton Stewart
self discipline and high intelligence. most peasants lack those traits though so it is religion for them
Christopher Rodriguez
this. religion is morals for the dumb masses. it's the continuation of simple moralistic stories you read to young children.
an individual who adheres to the NAP does not require the bible. but to be a true follower of the NAP you need to truly understand and embrace it. which requires intellectual and moral maturity. something the average sub 130 IQ peasant tends to lack.
Kevin Barnes
the primal man is aggressive, tribal, terroritiral, murderous, rapist ( think what men do in a war zone)
the civilized man learned to live with each other by rules
the enlightened man taps into the super consciousness
Right now you're civilized. Think ID, EGO, SUPEREGO.
Adrian Parker
Projecting? Yes, quite. But so far I've been right, because you're here, using your free time to worry about and question the direction in which modern society is headed, instead of planning your day, week, or using your time to self improve. Why bother thinking about such matters? Go clean anything in your home, read a book or learn a useful skill, perhaps a new language, musical instrument, or better your cooking. Go for a jog or lift weights. Fix that one thing that you were planning on fixing or replacing. Do the dishes, wash your clothes, and if you've already done these things and have nothing better to do, go help your neighbors or volunteer your time to fix your neighborhood. What does that mean? Pick up litter, paint over offensive graffiti, or patch a hole in some neglected sidewalk. You have no excuse. All of these things are for the betterment of yourself or society. Excuse me for projecting again now, but I'll just assume that you won't do any of that, because in the end you're here just to have your opinions validated, nothing matters and you'll just waste more time here, watch a show, play a game, or jack off to some degeneracy that you so loathe. Business as normal. Changing yourself is one of the hardest things that you can do. Oftentimes impossible.
Xavier Sanders
Soviets was fighting degeneracy without any religion but with education and materialism. Communism was bad but it definitely knew how to organize a bunch of peasants into superpower
Leo Phillips
Yes. Its called totalitarianism. Look to the USSR, China and best Korea
Jeremiah Roberts
You can change society With a small minority of strong men and superior Technology/Resources
Ian Cooper
Everything is answered in the Catholic teaching. The Catholic Church is the oldest institution in world and every single shade of these questions have been asked during its 2000y of existence
William Campbell
and what religion are you?
Isaiah Wright
Top kek, you didn't count Byzantine at all?
Cooper Lopez
>Soviet were fighting degeneracy
The USSR was the first country to legalize abortion. It had a disastrous impact on itd fertility
Ryan Nelson
Catholic Church and the eastern churches were one for a 1000y
Jayden Anderson
Religion is just an old braindead shortcut. The important part is a sense of communal identity and shared values. Those things don't have to be religious, you just need to have a sense of who you (as a people) are, where you came from and what you're trying to do.
And contrary to what the religious apologist will try to tell you, identities are stronger when they don't ask you to believe anything ridiculous on insufficient evidence. An identity that can be defended in rational terms, gunning for rational goals, will be a more resilient one. Using iron age religions leaves you with iron age values, and all the painful anachronism of porting them into the modern day.
Benjamin Bell
But I never heard of soviet junkies, gays or such, and your argument doesn't with China where is one child per family law still exist. Abortions in ussr was meant to prevent poverty and to ensure woman would be able to born a child that state will be able to feed and educate. There was no gettos
Joshua Nelson
This!
Alexander Foster
Without religion there is no such thing as degenerate even when it is against biology and is obviously harmful to society.
Blake Jackson
The heathen is the degenerate. Seditious in it's nature there is only one solution in the end for you.
Brody Foster
truth
Isaiah Ortiz
We need a worldwide white sharia movement.
Charles Ward
Humans are inherently religious. Philosophy, atheism, scientific method - this is only for a handful of individuals. Society needs religion. It's just a matter of choosing a religion which best serves your society.
Sebastian Gray
Daily reminder.
Jose Gutierrez
Yes but you need people with Will to do that. Better question is can there be will to do the right without religion? As invidual maybe yes but when it comes to ethnic groups can it happen?
Jason Campbell
National socialism works
Ryan Edwards
>Phil Bronstein
oh, what a coincidence!