“Nothing is more evident than that modern capitalism is just as subversive as Marxism. The materialistic view on life on which both systems are based is identical; both of their ideals are qualitatively identical, including the premises connected to the world the centre of which is constituted of technology, science, production, “productivity” and “consumption”. And as long as we talk about economic classes, profit, salaries and production, and as long as we believe that real human progress is determined by a particular system of distribution of wealth then we are not even close to what is essential.”
He's confusing corporatism for capitalism. Ideals of private business and property ownership don't necessarily entail consumerist culture and wreckless cosmopolitan hedonism. He's completely ignorant to the fact that there exist few suited for the philosophical life and even fewer who are truly actually any good at it, himself included.
If you're a philosopher and esotericist but not simultaneously a mathematician and astronomer then you are guaranteed a failure at your only true passion.
Landon Hughes
so your answer is to keep using privately owned jewish federal reserve banks to run our countries?
Ian Kelly
IT'S NOT REAL CAPITALISM
Hudson Myers
He's worth a read, for sure, but it's gonna a bit much for a lot of people. Jonathan Bowden is better to listen to as far as modern pagans go - really a great speaker. Been listening to Matthew Johnson a lot lately. Johnson is orthodox and sounds like a pothead but he does his research and has some interesting opinions.
Dominic Collins
*gonna be a bit much
Brayden Collins
No he isn’t. He’s directly criticising capitalism, which is an economic system that goes far beyond private business. He’s not confusing it with consumerism, that is a given. Secondly, you’re clearly ignorant as fuck about Evola, his main idea IS that the philosophical life should be reserved for an elite minority. Read a book, for real.
Benjamin Cooper
We need to return to the ancient Indo-European spiritual sacraments of cannabis and psilocybin mushrooms.
Matthew Thomas
>don't necessarily entail consumerist culture and wreckless cosmopolitan hedonism
That is modern day capitalism though. As long as it can make a buck then who cares about what effect the product/business may have on your nation. Private business and property ownership are great ideals but the nation must have some regulations that put the collective interest of your people above individuals who seek profits at any expense without caring how their business decisions hurt their nation.
Asher Roberts
Larry McDonald on Capitalism and Communism being 2 sides of Marx's coin, and more about the NWO.
>He's confusing corporatism for capitalism I dont think you understand what corporatism is
Christian Green
the guy in your picture actually says that he never enjoyed living among people , also he is probably a ww2 veteran
Alexander Johnson
none of that is inherent to capitalism you fucking retard
Aaron Roberts
>one form of capitalism is indicative of all forms of capitalism capitalism comes in different flavors
James Lopez
I love how burgers read Evola's discussion of capitalism and immediately impose their own McHedonism on top of it, just like the commies wanted to. Capitalism only exists as a concept to be contrasted with communism, and nobody can agree on what it actually looks like. Ancaps are fucking weird, and monarchies also had private property. The only essence of capitalism that remains after you consider all the different economies based on private property IS private property, conveniently also the one thing that communism wants to abolish. It's retarded to think that "private property" leads to hedonism and so Evola doesn't try, but instead he says it's "materialism", yeah no fucking shit sherlock. That's why capitalism and communism are two sides of the same coin, but that coin only says ""capitalism"", not private property.
Evan Evans
>capitalism comes in different flavors just like communism
Jason Garcia
>Matthew Johnson I've been listening to him for years, highly recommended. He's done his research because he was a professor of history at University, before they kicked him out. He knows his stuff about religion, philosophy and history. Very red pilled and doesn't shy from ((controversial topics)).
He can use the extra audience and Jow Forums can get some good info from him.
Mason Jackson
>we are not even close to what is essential.” And that of course is a life directed from 'above' as all Traditions were organized like that, instead of being stuck in materialism which is both communism & capitalism. Hence defeating communism / socialism in order to keep capitalism in the saddle will not restore culture or civilization.
In his 'Revolt..' I remember him saying that communism was eventually let go of because capitalism was so much more efficient in achieving 'communist' egalitarian ideals; destruction of the family, destruction of religion, destruction classes / guilds and promotion of sports and mass culture. Capitalism doesn't do this by oppression but by subversion and seduction.
Alexander Davis
I love the intimacy of unpopular threads. Always something in the digital air. Wouldn’t you say lads?
Christopher Watson
>He's done his research because he was a professor of history at University, before they kicked him out. He knows his stuff about religion, philosophy and history. Sure, but he seems to thoroughly research anything he opines on. And, yeah, he's redpilled. He absolutely demolishes individualism in a normie-digestible way. Debunks it, in fact. A lot of his stuff is not suitable for normies though, obviously.
Carter Cook
>the materialistic view on life on which both systems are based is identical... Stopped reading your brainlet bullshit right there. Capitalist "materialism" is voluntary, whereas marxist policy never is nor does it ever result in an abundance of goods for the people where "materialism" is even possible to begin with. What are you, fucking 14 and on summer break or wut?
Mason Jones
no im 15
Leo James
cant be materialistic if you dont have any materials
kys we need a middle ground there is no denying that a large part of the wests civlizational collapse is due to adopting the capitalist model , the fact that it morphed into corporatism at the end stage is irrelevant
Ahh the good old myth of Classical Liberal and Capitalist materialism, for daring to leave higher virtues to that of the individual mind and the path of the individual soul while trying to solve the issues which can be solved like meeting our wants and needs as best as possible as to allow the pursuit of higher goals. Touche.
Yes, it's not suitable for normies because they don't care for it and they just want their bread and circuses. But there's a lot of smart and disaffected young people here on pol that can get good info from him. He makes even the boring topics like obscure Russian authors interesting. I play it in the car during my drive to work.
Normies can start with pewdiepie or someone seemingly innocent. You can't redpill a person in one day or force it, it takes years of slowly incremental steps that need to be fully 'digested' before taking on the next one.
Leo Diaz
Isn't it crazy how these morons in here just prove what the quote stated?
Isaiah Wright
"If we proceed to eliminate all ideal ethical values and powers, and if we install in their place the purely natural instinct of self-love as the guiding force in the economy, and if we go one step further and demand complete freedom for this guiding force in the quest by individuals for profit, then we should not be surprised by the consequences. A system which proceeds from false premises - as the free enterprise system does - and which is self-contradictory, can only lead to absurd consequences when it goes into operation. And what are these absurd consequences? They may be summed up into two words: capitalism and socialism."
Heinrich Pesch
Alexander Jenkins
>screeches about hur dur not real capitalism non argument >makes a aurea mediocritas non argument in his own post
Landon Long
Are you arguing that they aren't? I know Norwegians are fucking stupid but your women are currently getting dicked down by niggers left and right specifically because of economic and social policy, you think the shit doesn't work for materialism?
Nathan Thomas
"The real reason underlying national suicide lies elsewhere. It is to be found in the moral decadence which all too often accompanies prosperity that is purely material, and which gives rise to the unrestrained quest for pleasure. And such moral decadence is also subtle enough so that it promotes by illicit sexual activity the baser sexual appetites as well as other modes of self-seeking in a manner unworthy of marriage partners and family life."
Heinrich Pesch, 1918
Adam Nguyen
>Work was for him [Marx] a commodity, not an obligation. [...] His ethics were the ethics of big business. Not that business is unethical; but we can read between the lines his opinion that the laborer is a fool not to engage in it. And laborers have understood him. The battle for higher wages became a kind of investment speculation: the worker was now a merchant selling his product, work. The trick about Marx’s famous "surplus value" thesis is that it was considered as spoils to be carried off by the successful merchant from the opponent’s stores. It was not to be presented to him for nothing. Class egoism thus became a universal principle. The laborers not only wanted to do business, he wanted the corner the whole market. The true Marxist is hostile to the state, and for the very same reason as the Whig: it hinders him in the ruthless exercise of his private business interests. Marxism is the capitalism of the working class. Consider Darwin, who was just as important to Marx as Malthus and Cobden. Business is conceived of throughout as a struggle for existence. In industry the employer engages in commerce with the commodity "money," while the worker does likewise with the commodity "work." Marx wished to deprive capital of the right to private profit, but the only thing he could think of as a substitute was the worker’s right to private profit. That is unsocialistic, but it is typically English. Marx became an Englishman on one other score as well: in his mind the state does not exist. He thought statelessly, in terms of "society." Like parliamentary practice in England, his economic world functions as a two-party system with nothing above the parties. Within his scheme there can be only combat and no arbitration, only victory or defeat, only the dictatorship of one of the two parties. The Communist Manifesto calls for a dictatorship of the "good" proletarian party over the "evil" capitalist party. Marx saw no alternatives.
