If you're skeptical about the mainstream narrative and engage in political conspiracies...

If you're skeptical about the mainstream narrative and engage in political conspiracies, commonly designating people as "shills" and speculating about what seemingly innocuous things are propaganda and mind control, how are you able to believe in anything? Isn't literally everything that you don't observe with your own eyes subject to suspicion?

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I judge everything based on probabilities and act upon anything with more than 30% likelihood, usually constructing plans that work for multiple eventualities.

I make sure I'm never certain about anything.

How is your perception of what's probable and what isn't constructed, and why do you have faith in it being accurate?

lol nice luck based system you got there faggot

but yeah don't believe in anything only the things you deem right. form your own morals and believes.

I judge by the empirical facts, evidence, arguments presented to me, motivations of people, lots of metrics. Even when I'm using instinct: I'm usually right or at least not surprised.

This tactic is actually how chess players craft moves, they don't actually know what their opponent is going to play next but assuming they're decent they usually have 3 or 4 good options and a lot of bad options. You plan around the good options they choose and trust that the bad options will work out for you inherently, because they're bad options.

Again, 9 out of 10 times a situation plays out exactly as I expect. At least one of my top probabilities plays out. I'm almost never surprised.

In the age of info and tech, so many of what the establishment said was proven to be a flat out lie.
Some lies are so obvious in who is being benefitted that when a similar event occurs and the same narrative is told, you just cannot help but to be skeptical.
And when you see this too many times, are you really expected to just trust anything at face value?

>>I judge by the empirical facts, evidence, arguments presented to me, motivations of people, lots of metrics.
If you're answering the question you're skeptical about the mainstream narrative, so facts are not necessarily actually fact, but propaganda. This is the same with people presenting you arguments, they could be intentionally misleading you, or propagandized themselves, or just not interested in truth. They may also be keeping their motivations disguised. I'm not asking whether or not you base your beliefs on information, I'm asking why you believe any information when you're conspiratorially minded.
That's fine, but it doesn't seem as though this extends far past the mainstream narrative of the day. How can you be sure about anything if the establishment has done nothing but lie to you? Why do you think anyone is telling you the truth?

think about that time that a teacher lied to you, you questioned him and he used his authority to punish you for it, demanding that you agree he is right.
the media and the politicians do it too, who could have guessed?
you still believe in things the old way - you demand proof and such, you just stop believing authority that much

For those people able of critical and indipenden thought as opposed to OP, here are some good conspiracies

Ancient History
the occult principles behind 9/11
archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/175292781

Political Symbolism
archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/174968078/

nazi UFOs and hollow earth
archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/178008055

Pizzagate (ctrl + f "hogg" or "paddock" dor the parkland shooting or vegas shooting)
archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/172178550/

NASA being lying pieces of shit
archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/179314945

MKUltra (the 3 post about ays in here are in there, but also some additional stuff on other kinds of behavior controll)

We're on a board that thinks psychology and IQ is a Jewish psyop and all the evidence is fabricated. Once you open the door to the mass fabrication of evidence, you can no longer be sure about anything. Additionally, a lot of subjects are complicated and specialized, so if the evidence was given to you, you might not understand it or have time for it, so what good is your ability to discern proof then?

Why are you assuming I'm not capable of independent thought? I haven't said the mainstream narrative is correct, I'm only asked why conspiracy theories are deemed convincing and true by supposedly skeptical people. I don't believe in the mainstream narrative or conspiracy theories. I just say "I don't know" to most things.

> so what good is your ability to discern proof then?
not very good. but this doesnt mean you have no ability to discern proof. work to improve it if you have doubts of understanding something, that is the only way. ultimately most knowledge is based on trust, authority and axioms. you challenge the axioms logically, you place trust based on experience, and follow authority based on trust. it is exactly the same as with not believing the kikes run the world, you just have a different viewpoint on those variables.

You inform yourself.

Vaccines are a good example. You read up on the biological mechanisms, concentrations absorptions, side effects, propabilitie of infection, results of non.vaccination and possible treatment and just after that you make a judgement if each vaccine itself is needed. Most aren't, some are even bad for you but a couple is usefull sompared to the negative sides.

Therefore making a decision on anything takes massive amounts of time. I personally rather eer on the side of staying sceptical if no big negative side effects are to be expected (for example not consuming fine suggar).

But once you are used to that probability-thinking you get quicker in making a decision but it's a lifetime of learning. After 30 years I have a basic understanding of pretty much all spheres of medicine, child bearing and rearing, nutrition, psychologie, chemistry, biotech, etc. Not a master in it, but I understand enough to be able to hold up a good conversation with actually educated people without a problem. You would be surprised how little most academics know of their subject if its even slightly outside their main field.

They believe a lot of things they don't see with their own eyes, like pedowood, flat earth, etc.

im assuming it because you were creating a strawman from the very beginning. you create, in the OP alone the picture that everyone who is into conspiracies
>calls anyone who disagrees shill as only argument
>considers every minor thing to be a conspiracy

let's go step further, don't even believe your own eyes, they can decieve you

That's the crux of what I'm asking about. Why believe that if you're so skeptical? I don't think hollow earth has a lot of evidence behind it, and the evidence could be fake anyway. There's a German ITT who bases a lot of his understanding of the world on the Bible. Why believe that? Why believe anything?
I didn't say or imply that everyone into conspiracies is like that. I was asking a specific audience that is like that. I opened with "if you're" with is a prompt to consider whether the figure I'm describing in the OP is like you or not.
I agree, but I'm more interested in contextual knowledge. It doesn't matter that we can only see the world as our eyes allow us to see it because it isn't important in context.

Im not saying all media sources are lying but more often than not, if its a big media company, they might not have ""telling the truth"" as their primary goal. They will lie not for the sake of lying but out of convenience. If the circumstances fit their agenda, there is no reason to present a slightly altered form of events.
I found with mainstream media, they dont flat out lie but have a heavily biased narrative. While government agencies have the ability to flatout lie, its harder for media companies to do so. So they add narratives and biases that satisfies the higher ups and their viewership.
But usually there are smaller media outlets that are more trust worthy.

Why do you keep posting this shit? I'm not saying there might have been some pre ice age/flood civs that traveled the world, but they weren't more advanced then we are now.
But neither weren't aciant stone walls carved by giants and all that other shit.
Kindly fuck off back to

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I guess this thread is pointless because conspiracy theory people as described in the OP are invested in what they believe for whatever reason, so they're going to talk about what their beliefs are based on in good faith. They'll just call you ignorant, tell you to do research, post incomprehensible vague images, ignore you, etc. The fact that I'm questioning them is probably just further proof that (((they))) have gotten to me, so they're definitely right about (((them))) and (((their))) propaganda.

nah that is no good. judge by fruits, by actions. also observe what is true and rarely discussed.
beware to jusge an entire group on the actions of a few, or even many, because you may harm an innocent person. attack the cliques themselves, not the whole group.

personally i hate the racism that many espouse here. still, because of the powerful enemies we all have who do wish to dissolve nations, races, and families, race mixing myst be strongly discouraged most of the time, though on the other hand there truly are exceptions to this that should occasionally be allowed. most jews are decent people and are unaware of what is really going on. there are indeed cabals of old and very wicked jewish families. blood libel isnt a libel, it really has happened and does continue to happen. elite pedophilia does exist, old occult families of wealthy jews and gentiles exist. these control most of the world and influence the rest.

look into iran contra, dutroux affair,operation gladio, the franklin scandal, the finders case, mkultra, etc... these operations, scandals and cover ups are some of the deepest rabbit holes to go down and will open your eyes to how bad it really is

Question
Why is powerful and rich people into these things?
I mean, there where some mails from Hillary talking about some ancient god.
What would someone with her power, running for USAs president, do such stupid things?
What am I missing?

dont lump everyone into a single group. you are doing what you are accusing others of.

look into these events.

the finders case, the franklin scandal, iran contra, the dutroux affair.

these events have been partially researched and documented on. these are some of the few events that are staggering in scope, and the questions they raise are frightening. they involve the most powerful people of all political stripes

You think you're intelligent.

I am not sure of what to make of the comments in the emails you are referring to. what can be said though is that bill and hillary have been involved in many deaths, thefts and lies. Though i am not sure about the emails, i can say that those nypd detectives who saw what was on the weiner laptop were mortified, and many such anecdotes like this reveal that the clintons are probably involved in crimes that would turn the most hardened criminal white as a ghost.

why do they do such things? they like it. they were groomed into it. the corruption that is atarting to come out into the public awareness has been passed down generation to generation, with proteges learning from their mentors and soon putting their own unique twist on the abominations committed.

look into the franklin scandal. it was a primarily republican (but definitely not all, there were many dems in it too) pedophile ring. the political might required to shut up witnesses and investigators is staggering, and the implications of all the info we have show that it was around for awhile, at least a generation or two in the running

maybe those things actually work and magic and the spiritual is real