Last dynasty, the Qing, ruled 1644-1912.
The communists have an iron fist on power at the moment, but they can't totally stop discontent from spreading online and with their economy slowing, discontent is sure to accelerate. With Xi becoming the new Mao, I can see the communist rule being overthrown within 200 years. After all, each previous dynasty was overthrown themselves.
Although it would be incredibly based, I just don't see it happening. Chinese discontent is not an ideological disdain for communism, but a general opposition to autocracy and censorship. If the communist regime falls, it will most likely be replaced by a democracy.
Doubt it. It would be terrible for them. One of the strongest positives of Chinese communism is that it united the entire country. If their communist government falls it will be back to the old days of warlords.
China needs no gommunism, it infact needs like National Socialism or Some kind of National Bolshevism
China's more likely to break up into a handful of independent states if the CCP collapses, but keep the same general system going. More democracy for some of them.
Actual communism in China faded away after Mao and it's effectively a centrist authoritarian state-capitalist regime; the CCP is only communist in name and tradition.
>implying giving the sandniggers Xinjiang, the Tibetans Tibet, Mutt Manchus Manchuko and Mongols Ordos wouldn't permanently destroy any significant Chinese power in the region.
China falters for one moment and the other big powers instantly split it and remove it from the global power equation. Who knows what kind of government would rule over Qing? I think the Taiwan Nationalists would sweep in and restore rule with U.S. backing.
The world will go sentient AI monarch out of pure necessity. Communism, Democracy, Capitalism, Post-modernism. All of it. All human creation and ways of though will be rendered irrelevant before their new god.
I wish mainland china would bexome more like taiwan or hong kong under the british.
There current government basically is national socialism.
it already is under dynasty rule.
That would be ideal. I'd love the day where I can look at the Republic of China and have a smile on my face.
Well, this too. The chinks got redpilled about race and ethnicity. They brainwash the sub-chink ethnicities into thinking they're Han and use the same methods as White Genocide and Israeli settlements to replace their more distinctive minority populations.
Also this. Communism's just another dynasty and The Party is literally a nobility class with familial ascension to boot.
I'm sympathetic, Chinese nationalistbro. I await the day when the Mongols retake our clay and vanquish communism's biggest example.
>Who knows what kind of government would rule over Qing?
The Qing were Manchus, not actual Han Chinese. They treated the Han like absolute shit, which is why so many of them were begging to come to the US and be rail layers and prostitutes for practically no pay because it was still better than living under the Qing.
I'm referring to the region, i.e. the part that's not Turkistan, not Tibet, not Ordos. I guess we could refer to the hypothetical new country as Hanistan or something. Seriously. What would be the new name?
Nobody really like democracy here in China. Afterall that's how you get Merkel and Trudeau elected.
Since your democratic elections were controlled by Russia, a Russian spy Nazi president was elected.
Why do Chinese people need this kind of garbage system?
Only an efficient and authoritarian iron-hand emperor is our ideal ruler.
What dynasty? Most members are in the communist party with special positions.
Thats not what I meant. National Socialism is more of an economic system than it is about race realism. When traveling internationally chinks are quicker to pull the race card than niggers and they will try to divide the races overseas all in the name of creating the false image of class struggle.
Going back to their economics. Post reform china has a lot in common with the way Nazi Germany was ran, especially when regarding economic growth, the nationalization of "key" industries, and massive infanstrucutee and social programs. Hell there economic growth rate when they got out of communism mirrors germanys economic growth shortly after the nazis where elected.
here is your 50cents.
China. China only recently annexed these territories
I see what you mean now. I agree with your analysis.
Shut up insect how are you even on here. And yes I speak your trash language and I pity you all.
Spoken like a true Chinese slave.
Dynasty groups are still around and have always been around. Much like the royal bloodlines stretching from Europe into the Middle East have always been around.
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As per recent changes, they essentially are dynastic.
I'm hoping they return to their 3 principles desu.
What would ascended brain be? Inner Mongolia? Turkestan? a Shanghai city-state?
Communist China is an artificially propped up nation, current circumstances allow it to thrive because it’s meant fulfill a purpose within the elites political and global objectives
>Russian spy Nazi president
Lets face it Wong, you're only mad because your sweatshop won't sell as much product anymore, which means your economy is fucked, as well as your ecosystem which you already fucked.
An efficient government is efficient at oppressing the people.
Qing’s flag is pretty /comfy/
Cantonese regional power dominating the North
Honestly. It's so aesthetic that it's lessening my hate for chinks.
Xi Jinping is president for life.
>they can't totally stop discontent from spreading online
aren't people over there more satisfied with their gov etc than over here though?
The big problem the Chinese communists currently have is the sheer fact Xi is quite literally holding his entire government together singlehandedly, which is both a good and bad thing for them, it's good because Xi will rule China for the rest of his life fairly easily, the problem is that like how once stalin in the USSR died and someone new comes in they simply are not good enough to do his job and thus eventually collapsed. China's current problem is once Xi stops holding the reins China will quite literally fall apart at the seams at every single level of society and government. Xi is barely able to hold shit together as it is and America squeezing them from the outside with the economy as a result of technology in America improving so we are not buying as much from them and tarriffing all their shit. While on the inside massive discontent and the fact their economy is held together entirely through a fuckton of money giving deals in a desperate attempt to continue job growth despite the fact that the population is currently decreasing in mass so less people to fuel their economy. In addition to this with the trillions being fed in a half assed attempt to fund anything the government may even trivially seem useful, they keep pouring money in so far that they have a rather large debt like we do.
smallest-brain take ive ever seen
Another Warlord Period would just be a transition era. Communism falls, warlords break up the country, one warlord conquers the rest (with no small amount of outside backing) and a new dynasty/government is established.
Chinese have been oppressed for 5000 years, do you think we care abiut that? We tried the leftard ways, it doesn't fucking work.The communist revolution of the 20th century was a disaster, and globalization was a scam.
Jews and the Democrats should shut the fuck up. We don't need your democracy. Go fuck yourselves.
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Chin, I know your not good at english. But can you try to make an argument where you dont turn on your original point in the end.
>0.50$ has been deposited into your account.
That's what I've heard. The propaganda is so strong over there that even chinks who go abroad for university largely only associate with other Chinese and are wholly uninterested in taking advantage of their new freedoms. Although a lot of that has to do with their half-true assumption that the CCP will know if they dare speak a word of criticism against China. Also, China's rapid economical growth is placed at the feet of the party and Xi Jinping himself which only strengthens their content with the current leadership and overall nationalism.
What benefits does democracy bring to South Africa?
What benefits does democracy bring to Mexico?
What benefits does democracy bring to India?
Don't you see ?What we want is efficiency, development, and economy. We want money!
Democracy is the least useful thing for Chinese.
>One post by this ID.
Wake up, Jow Forums.
I havent seen attrocities like this in a democratic system.
What has socialism with chinese characterisitcs done for you?
I was in China for the New Year earlier this year. When word of Xi's takeover broke, even the most bluepilled Chinese friends I have were quite visibly shaken. They just can't do anything about it, I think it will crumble from the inside, perhaps after Xi's death.
>After Communism is truly vanquished, will China revert to dynastic rule?
i hope so, they used to be based
They all open the doors to jews
The picture is the wet dream of a communist, and it's your future if Trump lose. You guys better hope your democratic system don't go south ways, or else you'er fucked too.
>I'm referring to the region, i.e. the part that's not Turkistan, not Tibet, not Ordos. I guess we could refer to the hypothetical new country as Hanistan or something. Seriously. What would be the new name?
China proper, analogous to Russia proper.
Yeah, and all in the name of democracy.
Democracy is the lie of Jews, along side with the communist .
We have suffered for years, now we just don't need it anymore.
So what political system do you advocate for?
Looks like they have all been brainwashed by Soros. I bet your friends support gay rights, oppose racist against niggers, and wish China will introduce refugees.
The fact is, most of Chinese don't care who get to be the king or how long will he be, as long as there are no niggers and faggots running aroud everywhere and there is enough money in people's pocket.
Socialism with Chinese characteristics
AKA National socialism
AKA Nazism
This is the only way.
bring back the Latter Han! Vote Liu Bei!
I was skimming Chinese history on Wikipedia myself to find out if they had any history of colonialism and found out they did not. I thought this was a bit strange because if you look at European history there has been colonialism from the beginning.
It seems what China is currently doing in Africa, SE Asia and other places is actually completely new ground.
I suppose if you include Mongols and other groups into a broad category together with the Chinese then there were invasions into Europe. I mean you could in theory include Atila the Hun as Chinese, since people of his ilk have invaded China and mixed with China, so that China has become partly the people that invaded them. But even if you do include Atila the Hun I don't suppose you could say that he was very successful at colonising foreign lands, because he eventually reached the limits of what he could expand his territory to and then withdrew, without having created a sustained legacy. This sort of invasion is the 'rape and pillage' variety, which doesn't endure beyond the short term.
But Chinese Empire is still possible despite their history. If you look at Britain, they were invaded many times, by the Romans, by Vikings, by various groups from continental Europe. They were ruled by the French (Normans) for hundreds of years. Only later did they create an empire, in the wake of other European powers such as Spain. A thousand years ago, the prospect of the English taking over world would have seemed unlikely. But they did it.
The only thing, though, is that Britain had developed strong private property rights, which is probably what helped British colonies flourish whereas other European colonies fared less well. China seems to have a warped perspective on private property, which may ultimately hinder them, because they don't seem to understand the core reasons behind private property, though they utilise it if it suits their agenda.
Socialism with Chinese characteristics is basically Nazism, and we have done it right in the last 3 decades.
We don't have large-scale immigration problems, we don't have niggers, we don't have faggots, we don't have streets with drugs, and our law and order is better than most big cities in Europe and American.
Our economy has continued growth and we have more and more money in our pockets.
We don't need your democracy.
Basically the same way North-Western Euros claim to have a Greco-Roman heritage.
Historically, Chinese only care about the land of the Yellow River Basin and the Yangtze River Basin. Our ancestors were not interested in the land across the mountains or the opposite side of the sea.
Therefore, there is no history of foreign colonization for Chinese.
In short, our ancestors did not like niggers, didn't want to contact with inferior civilizations. Even if they are not advanced anymore, they are still not willing to contact the outside world.
Until their asshole were fucked by whites.
been unable to take this flag seriously since i saw this shit
>we don't have niggers
Yes you do. Maybe not a shit load of them, but there are niggers in China. There are an estimated 20,000 niggers in Hong Kong, and 10,000 in Guangzhou. While 30K niggers is small in comparison to China's population, the niggers in China are straight from Africa, and drugs inevitably follow where they go. I don't know about your laws, but the small nigger problem I have heard about.
You also have faggots. If you have a pride parade, you have faggots.
china is natsoc right now. how do you not know this?
Nobody gives up power willingly.
If China wants (((Freedom))), there needs to be bloodshed.
I'm not sure the Freedom will be worth it though, you will just become slaves to international banks.
Slaves to Jewish Human Rights judges.
Slaves to other internationalists.
this is true. i bought drugs off a nigerian gang on bar street in beijing.
>Our ancestors were not interested in the land across the mountains or the opposite side of the sea.
That's really interesting.
It also explains the weird coastal shape of the Vietnam country.
No interest in the deeper jungles of Laos and Cambodia.
>he doesn't realise Xi has already become the new emperor.
>Until their asshole were fucked by whites.
So what's going on there? Is this current expansion motivated by a sort of narcisstic rage of "How dare you do that to me! I'll show you what I can do!"?
Or is it more of a rational perspective of needing to build strength in order to not be fucked over again?
No. China is going to revert to civil war, as per usual. Local party leaders will fall away, arrest and murder each other, and generally fuck up this brief period of unification. South will break away, Beijing and Shanghai will try to reign them in... you know this dance.
>Is this current expansion motivated by
There is lots of oil below the sea west to the Philippines.
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反抗共产党政权。
习近平是一头猪。
If Communism ever falls in China, they will end up being either a representative democracy or a military junta, albeit with Chinese characteristics.
Truth is, the only reason the CCP is in power still is momentum and the fact that they're putting bread on the table and growing the economy. Most people don't have any real attachment to Communism, and pay it lip service at best.
At the same time, the general population is far wealthier and more educated than they were 80 years ago. If Communism were to go away, they wouldn't regionally collapse or revert to an Imperial system. If the military still has the degree of power it currently does, it will probably be a junta with life similar to how it is today. But given the military's allegiance to the party, if the party falls you would have to think the military would also fall. Given that, a representative democracy is probably more likely.
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You realize that doesn't work, right? Not to mention he's in Hong Kong, so even less so.
Worth a try.
Let's see if he replies.
He already left.
Well guess it worked then.
Communism is what made China a Chad strong country. America, France and britian became scared of China when they became a communist country. The constant cucking stopped and they even help their fellow bother commie nations from the western imperialist.
>5/46 communist nations from 1960 are still communist today.
They don't seem to have done too well at that.
I'm still here, just don't care what you've posted. Try something else.
Try something else. Nobody care about 64 anymore, it was fucking decades ago.
It annoys when westerners say China is capitalist. I think the root of this assertation lies with leftist academia and experts who think that anything bad must be capitalist. China is totalitarian, bad for the enviroment, etc. so it must be capitalist. Never mind that they have one party rule, state owned enterprises control everything, 5 year plans. These socialist professors forget their own marxist dogma that policita, societal and economic structures are linked. Capitalism requires liberty and freedom to pursue your own enterprise with minimal government intereference, something that is impossible in China. Just becasue Soviet Russia eventually fell into a pit of debt and bad economic policies does not mean communism always leads to this. China is communist, get over it.
Nope, I'm still here, just have some work to do.
You know, working, that's what we do in China. It may be an unfamiliar concept for you Americans. After all, the only thing you guys do is just curse your president while waiting for the government to give you welfare.
Repeat the path that successful people have taken to ensure our success.
Colonialism is profitable, so we will do it. This is only one step in the rise of China.