Can we talk about the elephant in the room that is ancap retardation? They can be just as embarrassing as commies

>what the actual fuck is less stable than a fiat currency? how stupid are you, OP?
Any currency tied to a commodity.
BTFO

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You get a free ride commie

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The problem with Ancaps is that they have no idea of demographic importance. If you say that Borders don't exist then every low wage laborer in the world can just pour into your area for the private factory jobs. The fundamental problem with Ancaps is that their entire system is based on individual greed with no greater responsibility than that.

retard
factor out war and its pretty similar

I disagree. I consider myself ancap but also a racial nationalist and fundamentalist christian. It is not the duty of the state to dispose of a degenerate or feed a child, it is my duty as a christian man.

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>factor out war and it’s pretty similar
Lol should we factor out the Great Depression and panics of the 19th century because they’re caused by inflexible money supply due to gold backing?

“Yeah just remove all instability caused by commodity backing and they’re similar”

Every argument against libertarianism is a strawman or gross misinterpretation. There are no logical arguments against having less government.

t. Pedo

the depression was caused by the Smoot–Hawley Tarif dumbfuck

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Socialist countries like Norway, Switzerland and Sweden have the best economies.

Exhibit A non argument.

You're a retard

Not an argument

and here kids we can see

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your daily reminder that socialist white niggers get the rope too

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It was significant monetary deflation you mong.
>Scandinavia
>socialist
Embarrassing.

>government is bad cuz it kills ppl
>i am going to kill ppl when govt can't stop me

Anyone who thinks any kind of anarchism is a real thing is completely fucking delusional. In any form of anarchy people will band together and start to oppress others forming early forms of government, eventually the victor will form the central government. There is no way to prevent that from happening and it will happen every single time.

stupid communist cunt

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you sound like a new right faggot

anytime a totalitarian state forms it is spelling its own death , as rebellion will always form to fight it

Nice unsourced artifact ridden infograph you got there

Hahahaha look at this statist cuck and laugh

You are mentally ill

No state is forever, but statism lasts a lot longer than anarchism thanks to modern technology. The only way to get back to long term anarchism is to go back to the tribal age.

There really is only one political structure: The strongest dominates and makes up the rules. Whatever those rules are is up to the most powerful entity. You can't fundamentally change anything about this through idiotic capitalist or communist idealism. It's like a natural law.

The cuck insult really got to whoever made this one. R E N T F R E E

>does not see the sources at the bottom

leftists cant read bros, lets laugh together depends on the extent of the state

>>hates inflation even at low rates
>>thinks deflation benefits the economy
It's easy to think that inflation is good and deflation is bad when you have only read your high school and college text books on the subject and never expended any more thought on the subject. The reasoning being that if money gained value over time, people would never buy anything and would instead just put the money away in giant vaults to see them grow in value. If that was how people reasoned, however, no one would ever buy a new TV or computer since they could buy the same model much cheaper by waiting for six to twelve months.

>it's like natural law
Which is why we have natural rights

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>when you have only read your high school and college text books on the subject
Every time.

They have drones and tanks, and you think you will overtake the government with your shitty rifles?

I'll take your critique a step further comrade
Liberalism, including libertarianism and neoliberalism, is the root cause of the current climate of social justice in the west
The whole premise of individuality, human rights, property rights, affirmative action, islamic acceptance, etc is based on the principle of the autonomy of the individual, foundational to liberalism and capitalism
SJWs may say that they're anti-capitalist but in reality, they want to maintain capitalism and enhance the welfare state
Even libertarian philosophers like Hayek supported this position
It's all the same
The only cure to this disease is collective authoritarianism

you and your friends shoul buy collectively some ropes and hang yourself on the next best tree.

Hahahahaha I'm still laffin

As long as they operate on the free market like any other business I'm fine with it. Taxation gives the State a monopoly on law enforcement and laws because even if people don't use them they make money.

>COMMODITY money is unstable and not FIAT money.
wooo lad

the only ones hanging will be bourgeois liberal apologists like yourself, scum

You are just the same. Every commie i know hates culture, want's open borders, and loves niggers. You are all ruining the west.

>college text books are unbiased and objective in a field where there is massive disagreement
Gender studies major spotted.

>commodity-based currency
>unstable
Only when banks are legally permitted to defraud customers by issuing more currency than there is gold backing it. 100% reserve hard currency is literally the most stable system you can have.

read a history book some time Achmed

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Ancap is an internet ideology.
Find me one remotely successful ancap party in politics today

Do it

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>What is the Vietnam War?

I love libertarianism to some extent but Ancap sounds like a high school idea of society

says the bourgeois liberal faggot of a Doctor's son.
You are just laughable maybe in 30-50 years you can try again, but you will fail like everytime
we hanged you in the past we will hang you in the future
you never gained anything we defeated you every single time since the french revolution and still you haven't learned one damn thing
Justice will always prevail over evil thugs like you

>unstable commodity-based currency

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Couldn't find you an unsuccessful one my d00d.

The great depression affected idiots only. You offer labour in exchange for necessities - why did these people have so much resources, but lacked food?

>be 1900

>Flight is a fantasy idea.
>Find me one remotely successful flying machine in the world today.

>Do it

"Ancap party" is an oxymoron, since libertarians don't believe in democracy (mob rule) and would rather people see themselves as free individuals than as apart of some uncaring collective.

Bullshit. Libertarians dont want to abolish government, but limit it to its core duties

>but lacked food?
Because the government literally created food shortages and made the public pay for it.

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The problem with human beings is that a little bit of authority makes them feel like they can rebel against it. A weak father has no psychological authority over his children. Humans don't do well in an environment that they can give the finger too, because they inevitably will seek to overcome it for individual interests. You need either a totally free society or an utterly totalitarian one. Either you give people only themselves to blame for their actions, or make them be proud of contributing toward a state of absolute order. This is the weakness of democracy. It inevitably becomes an oligarchical farce.

Ancaps are retarded because of the anarchy aspect of Ancap. really Minarchist should be a more defining ideology.
I have always been hesistant of bitcoin, only because of how the people are using it in compared to the desired effect, which has and will create an economic bubble. Deflation is beneficial to an economy over inflation, this is literally crucial to economy.

Those are minarchists, most libertarians go full ancap once they realize that all "core" functions of the g*vernment can be done more effectively by the will of the public and free market.

Thanks, this one's going in my ancap cringe comp.

>something that happened years after an even is responsible for the event itself.
lol

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>Muh Magic of the Free Market
Free Trade faggots are the number one problem with today's economic systems. International Trade is not a game of patty cake. It is not some sacred institution that can not be touched. Trade is a competition and a tool of Diplomacy. When Free Trade becomes a net loss for a nation it is no longer beneficial. At that point it serves only to benefit the plutocrats and oligarchs who have more loyalty to specie than nation. Commerce is a weapon to be used as an extension of politics, not as an end in itself.

The anarchy part is what happens when you apply libertarian principles consistently. Though it wouldn't be "anarchy" in the commie sense of no hierarchy or laws. It would simply be a collection of private law societies, most likely princely states or covenant communities.

The thing about ancap is that only an utter retard would ever think it isnt completely retarded

>free trade is what's wrong with today's economic system
Stopped reading there.

this infography ignores country's history
why belarus with state companies is way beter than ukrain and so on?and why some russians
prefer ussr

>Princely states
This is what Ancaps don't get. This is the inevitable conclusion of their ideology, Warlordism. The first bandit leader who gets his hands on a few dirty bombs or a nuke becomes king of all he surveys.

i agree

>hurdur Trade for the sake of trade is my end goal
>Free Trade is good even if my country runs at a negative.

t. brainlet

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Floating currencies offset the negative impact of negative trade balances

RETARD

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Underrated

free trade is good for merchants

once we’re done with the left; you people get the helicopter next

>who defends himself is always in the right

>Muh Floating Currencies
It floats right into the bank accounts of multinational corporations. I'll grant you that much lol. An American company that employs more foreign workers than American workers should be slapped with crippling fines and reminded of where they came from. Seize their assets by force if necessary and relocate them to the United States.

But u didnt explain why that stuff is wrong. Lol.

Ascended tier comment

A princely state is characterized by the ruler's legitimate ownership of the land he claims to control. No society considers warlords to legitimately hold territory, any more than they consider mafia groups to legitimately own the neighborhood in which they run a protection racket. Both are criminal groups, not rulers.

If the implication is that owning a nuke makes you the king of your territory, that's absolutely retarded. Nuking "your" territory when the people on it tell you to get fucked is a great way to have no territory left, which defeats the whole point of getting those nukes in the first place. It also paints a huge target on you because the demand for your death will become significant. In all societies in human history, there has been more demand for protection from criminal aggressors, than there is demand for protection for criminal aggressors to commit their crimes. The more dangerous the criminal, the more money there is available to whoever gets rid of him.

Free trade does not require tariffs and government protectionist meddling to keep it "fair." You have no idea what free trade means. Come back when you have coherent arguments.

I give Ancap North America 5 months before some egomaniac General finds a nuke and declares himself Emperor by pain of radiation.

>The anarchy part is what happens when you apply libertarian principles consistently.
No. There's no libertarian principle that would logically lead to the government not being allowed to have a monopoly on violence.

fuck off

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They literally don't, though. It's spelled out pretty clearly in the balance of payments; your currency will only devalue--making the domestic population poorer--if the balance of payments is in deficit.

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What a low-IQ non-sequitur. lol.

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>the free market is more effective than state-run monopoly
Is a pretty common libertarian principle, m8.

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>People will put honor before their own greed and ambition
I have less faith in human nature than You do. The way I see it, if some Ancap Warlord finds a couple nukes and gets an army together, that's a magnet for power. People are gonna flock to him since he's the most powerful guy around. All the Ar15's in the World aren't gonna help against the guy who has a fucking Patriot stockpile. You also seem to think that people would oppose him for being strong. People would instead be lining up to suck his dick. He has the power. People are gonna want to be his ally. Whoever has the firepower has the crown.
>Yeh he's an egomaniac dictator but he's OUR egomaniac

And violence is not a matter of the free market because there's no libertarian principle that gives people the right to initiate it.

/lrg/?

yeah, but ancaps don't want to force their shit onto you. so they're like the least of your problems, dear statist faggot

Funny how ancaps deny historical data like commies and start screeching about something else to move the goalposts.

If you want to be cucked by fiat go ahead and use your meme gold standard. Just don’t whine when your liquidity is shit.

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>OP against the gold standard
Good goy. Nixon was right! Gold is bad! Give it all to us goy

>Free Trade is naturally fair
>Fair means side 1 loses jobs and runs at a negative
Trade is a competition, not a fucking charity system. A government duty is go protect its people, not the fucking Corporate Overclass.

Stunningly red pilled comment, well done