Change my mind

By infringing on someone else's right to life, liberty, and/or property, you forfeit your own

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You're kinda preaching to the choir, jackass.

I agree with some exceptions: illegals, jews, niggers and muslims have no right to own property, be free or being alive.

i think you need a better explanation of "infringe" for this to be debatable. everyone in america wants to get someone else in trouble because of muh rights

Steal shit? You infringed on somebody's right to property, get fined twice the value of the stolen property because you lost your right to it in having infringed somebody else's right
Kidnap somebody? Prison time, you infringed somebody's right to liberty so you lost your own
Kill somebody? Die the way you killed, except publicly; you infringed somebody's right to life so you lost your own

/ourspic/

alright cool, the concept of law and punishment has been around since ancient sumeria, you're not really breaking new ground with this lolbertarian stuff

Someone should beat you until you see colors again.

>hurr he a good boi so he should only get 20 years instead of the guillotine for beating somebody to death with a rock
This is modern society. I'm not claiming to break new ground, I'm proposing that we return to the old ways

>property
>implying that your ability to exclude others from the use of productive property is not predicated on your using it better than they are
Lel. Neoliberals should be killed.

got it. i cant really endorse the death penalty in a modern state, since killing someone is generally more costly than a life sentence. also, the number of false convictions makes me really question how ethical it is

So is it open season on wrongdoers? By infringing on someone's rights who've already forfeited them, are you not infringing on their rights? Are they simply not people anymore if they steal a candy bar? Why not cut their hands off and slap a burka on them?

so how about if people are granted welfare, but only if they change their behavior?

for example, you can have this free money, but only if you stop using drugs, and get whatever menial job is offered you

This is now a sex doll and guns thread.

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>killing someone costs more than housing, feeding, and keeping them alive for the rest of their life
bullets are cheap as shit retard. If nobody who passed the death sentence is willing to kill this person, then he shouldn't receive the death sentence.

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This is the truth and nothing can change that

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might makes right newfag, everything else is luxury

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Everything good about your people died out 2000 years ago. You fucking goth.

>By infringing on someone else's right to life, liberty, and/or property, you forfeit your own

I agree. But let's say you do not infringe on anyone else's right? Can my rights be guaranteed to be left intact?

Tax evasion in fact has no victims for instance , yet a man will be robbed of all his rights as a consequence.

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autism

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Alright... I keked

In the case of taxes the government is infringing your right and you have the right to destroy government property

Agreed

>In the case of taxes the government is infringing your right and you have the right to destroy government property

Ok. Now what if I drive drunk and no one is injured? Many people have lost all their right to this.

not helping your case autist

lefties use this logic when they say 'punch the nazi' cause to them rightwing ideology is already an attack that is projected to be violent thus they can justify their own violence

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I won’t
You’re a backward christkek slave mind
You do you faggot

Now just wait a fucking second.

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Except in court of course

this

Depends on what that person was doing with their life.

All pedophiles are executed regardless.

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