>I am now referring to the evacuation of the Jews, the extermination of the Jewish people. It's one of those things that is easily said: 'The Jewish people are being exterminated', says every party member, 'this is very obvious, it's in our program, elimination of the Jews, extermination, we're doing it, hah, a small matter.' And then they turn up, the upstanding 80 million Germans, and each one has his decent Jew. They say the others are all swines, but this particular one is a splendid Jew. But none has observed it, endured it. Most of you here know what it means when 100 corpses lie next to each other, when there are 500 or when there are 1,000. To have endured this and at the same time to have remained a decent person — with exceptions due to human weaknesses — has made us tough, and is a glorious chapter that has not and will not be spoken of. Because we know how difficult it would be for us if we still had Jews as secret saboteurs, agitators and rabble-rousers in every city, what with the bombings, with the burden and with the hardships of the war. If the Jews were still part of the German nation, we would most likely arrive now at the state we were at in 1916 and 17
Why do Nazis try to pretend the holocaust didn't happen when Himmler is on record admitting to it?
Because Nazis are pussy fucktards
What is the relevance of this meme to the passage I posted? The intent of German leadership re: Jews seems fairly clear
based neocon
>when Himmler is on record admitting to it?
Whas that before or after he had his balls crushed?
It was in 1943, idiot.
>I ask of you that that which I say to you in this circle be really only heard and not ever discussed. We were faced with the question: what about the women and children? – I decided to find a clear solution to this problem too. I did not consider myself justified to exterminate the men – in other words, to kill them or have them killed and allow the avengers of our sons and grandsons in the form of their children to grow up. The difficult decision had to be made to have this people disappear from the earth. For the organisation which had to execute this task, it was the most difficult which we had ever had. [...] I felt obliged to you, as the most superior dignitary, as the most superior dignitary of the party, this political order, this political instrument of the Führer, to also speak about this question quite openly and to say how it has been. The Jewish question in the countries that we occupy will be solved by the end of this year. Only remainders of odd Jews that managed to find hiding places will be left over.
Explain to me what Himmler meant in the two passages I posted. These speeches were delivered to party members
You are unable to construct an argument and your ignorance of this subject is clear. Continue posting memes if you must
k
>da holocaust didn't happen but it should of
>observe the power of my infographics
Jews forced Himmler to say that at a delegation of his own party's leadership in Poland. It's clearly a conspiracy
LOL shilling for something real.
Hello again, loser.
this comes from now 2 old people living apart ~200km that were small children when nazis occupied Lithuania.
One is my grandmother, she lived near the forest where the jews were being shot, she claims that she heard the cries of the jews and the cries stopped after the sound of shots.
Other is an old man that I've met during new year's eve, he said that he saw how nazis walked out all jews from his village, jews were never seen again.
I'm asking a question that nobody has been able to answer. Why did Himmler himself admit to the policy of extermination and personally approve a corrected version of these speeches? Let's elevate the discourse 1 inch above infographics and provide a wikipedia article:
we alinsky now
coactus feci
>current of volts
lmao
"ummm they were just being evacuated to eastern russia, but they're still hiding and that's why no one ever saw them again"
You pretend like your refusal to communicate is tactical, but it's obviously because you're just ignorant. Soon you'll run out of memes to post and you still won't be able to answer the question this thread is concerning
I have never seen that, what's it from? It's completely made up but funny, whoever wrote that has no knowledge of electricity or physics.
lol I didn't even realize that.
I have 2.3tb of memes. The thread will die first.
>TRUTH FEARS NO INVESTIGATION...
>but I'm not going to argue with you because you're just a shill haha
There have been many war time rumors around the secretive death camps, some of these rumors are documented in books
cool meme
Any thoughts on those quotes from Himmler? You're obviously taking the bait, so roll with me here. Are they fake?
Source?
nope I'm just here to post dank maymays
"Extermination" here is an almost certainly purposefully bad translation of "ausrottung," or "uprooting." Etymologically "exterminate" means "exile," but in modern usage it's a euphemism for killing.
Because you're inarticulate or just ignorant? It's embarrassing that you're willing to monitor my thread for 15 minutes without engaging in the topic at all. Everybody can see it's because you can't, and not any other reason
I don't care.
extermination of the jewish people doesnt mean to kill them in german, but drive them out.
The relocation to the East? It's euphemism obviously
based and redpilled
OP
Nuremburg trial was bs, forcing people to accept guilt.
End game is : send independent scientists to Poland.
I can make this happen.
Thanks
>secret speeches
>recorded
lol?
> Regarding the Jewish question, he [Himmler] gives a very unadorned and frank picture. He is of the conviction that the Jewish question can be solved by the end of this year. He advocates the most radical and most severe solution, namely to exterminate Jewry, bag and baggage. Of course, if brutal, this is a consistent solution. Because we must take on the responsibility of entirely solving this question in our time. Subsequent generations will doubtlessly no longer dare address this problem with the courage and obsession as we are able to do today.
Goebbels 9 October 1943
Nothing to see her white people we just outlaw questioning it cause nothing to see here.
Suck a dick op.
Because they didn't succeed?
At least they tried.
>Holocaust Revisionism Debunked: The Master Course
This is from 2 years before the Nuremburg trials, dunce
>Why do Nazis try to pretend the holocaust didn't happen when Himmler is on record admitting to it?
Why are you trying to defend the Jews and their narrative on Jow Forums?
>This is from 2 years before the Nuremburg trials, dunce
So do you believe the Nuremberg Trials prove the Holocaust happened?
>when you're so detached from reality you think historical fact is impossible to establish
Wow, Himmler TOTALLY said this you guys, and exactly this. No there's no recording, only a NAZI would demand a recording.
he is still talking about getting jews out of the land.
>namely to exterminate Jewry, bag and baggage
he even let them take their stuff with them
Wow, I totally believe the burnt offering happened now.
>>when you're so detached from reality you think historical fact is impossible to establish
If it's historical fact, why it is illegal to refute it, disagree with it, question it or criticize it?
the speech is a forgery lurk moar
The Holocaust didn't happen
I believe statements from Nazi leadership alone form sufficient evidence to conclude there was a policy of extermination against Jews
Fact
>I believe statements from Nazi leadership alone form sufficient evidence to conclude there was a policy of extermination against Jews
So you're saying the only evidence that the Holocaust happened is what you believe the NSDAP leadership said?
baby hitler dindu nuffin he wuz a good boy wanting to go to art school n shiiet.
so checkmates schlomo he definitely didnt holohoax any jews despite his stated intention to do so.
also, gas the kikes race war now.
t. typical stormfag
seriously I dont care how many jews died and whatever the number its not a factor in my political opinions. almost certainly not 6 million because you cant trust truths backed by the force of law. but stormfags need to stop making the cause of white nationalism look so mouth-breathingly retarded
>Nazi leadership alone
Is he ok?
>you refusal to conversation proves the point that its not a blantant lie
Oi Moishe Shoah
Because the only people "questioning" it are trying to absolve Hitler of responsibility for the genocide he planned. "The holocaust didn't happen" is not a legitimate historical opinion
>posting Wikis
It's all perfectly legal where you live, but in some places it's illegal to spread patently false conspiracy theory propaganda that promotes hatred of another group, and since holocaust denial always boils down to "there's a mass conspiracy by all jews to lie to people for gain" it falls under that
No? I said that you could build a credible case on that evidence alone. Read my posts twice before responding if you're having trouble, perry mason
>infographics are a more credible source than wikipedia
>Because the only people "questioning" it are trying to absolve Hitler of responsibility for the genocide he planned.
Then why isn't there any evidence of Hitler ordering the so-called Holocaust?
>"The holocaust didn't happen" is not a legitimate historical opinion
If that's the case then why is it illegal to deny it? Does the truth not fear investigation?
"Ausrotting" which has been translated to "extermination" in the OP post (and every English version of the speech) doesn't actually have the exact same meaning. The evidence for this is the fact that "evacuation" is used as a synonym. You don't say that you're evacuating the pests in your garden, for example.
Of course the bit about corpses later on is quite damning, but you should remember that the recording of the speech was "discovered" and presented as evidence at the Nuremberg trials, which should say plenty about how reliable it is. Quite convenient that a recording of a so-called secret speech would fall into allied hands at such a key moment.
>"The holocaust didn't happen" is not a legitimate historical opinion
Additionally, you're saying pic related happened?
you can reinvent the german language all you want, the meaning is still different.
extermination was used different back then, you would exterminate bugs for exapmple but it wouldnt be used in human relation.
erradicate would be more fitting.
Yeah. It's real and nazis made porn with shrunken heads. Sure user.
Little did he knew that the US was created by Jews,which controled the UK. So they where in fact cousins
>I said that you could build a credible case on that evidence alone.
Spoken testimony with no physical evidence to back it up is not evidence.
Are you saying that pic related happened because some Jew said so?
The Nuremburg trial's notes could fill a room. I never said that everything in them was credible. Continue to cherrypick and deflect like a coward
Do you realise that these speeches are suspicious to say the least?
The physical evidence is the transcript that was signed, approved, and corrected by Himmler. Try reading through at least 25% of the wiki article before attempting to formulate a response.
They're suspicious to you because you've concluded the holocaust didn't happen
has nothing to do with reinventing the german language, it's a list of instances this word was used by nazi officials in the clear context of killing
>The Nuremburg trial's notes could fill a room.
These are the Nuremberg Trial Transcripts. Not the notes.
>I never said that everything in them was credible.
So the trials aren't credible but the Holocaust still happened?
>Continue to cherrypick and deflect like a coward
Hey, I'm posting the so-called "evidence" that "proves" the "Holocaust" "happened."
You're the one denying that the Nuremberg trials proved the Holocaust happened.
It happened but the issue is that the facts have been manipulated. 6 million did not die, I doubt it was even 1 million combined between jews and others. Now today we have retards suggesting 20 million died. I do not believe it one bit.
Hell at first Nazis wanted to kick them out and put them in Madagascar
*the burnt offering
he's asking a defendant about a rumor
wow
holocaust debunked
The transcript which appeared at the Nuremberg trials.
Doesn't it strike you as odd that the very best evidence of the holocaust is not mass graves full of ash and bones but rather documents mysteriously acquired by the accusers?
>The physical evidence is the transcript that was signed, approved, and corrected by Himmler.
Because there certainly wasn't any torture, threats and coercion right?
A signed document with no actual evidence to back it up is meaningless.
>Try reading through at least 25% of the wiki article
You mean wikipedia, a Jew edited, politically correct liberal website? Why would we trust such a biased and untruthful site?
The trials are credible. They contain the testimony of thousands of people, not all of which is credible. Why would Himmler lie and tell a congregation of Nazi officials they were carrying out an extermination of the jews in Poland?
whoever thinks the holocaust didn't happen is a retard.
*burnt offering
>he's asking a defendant about a rumor
Which was still considered evidence according to the trial regulations.
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