Why exactly are you guys against immigrants

Identities can be bought for the right price. Passports, documents, etc. So why don't they do that?

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That is an opinion piece, I provided a study. Opinion pieces are worthless.

It's another "illegal welfare leech gang member Juan and law abiding small business owner Chang are one and the same" episode.

the fact you correlate economic growth with absolute good, without any concern with the effect something has on the life and happiness of the average citizen means you are a hapless blind pawn of the jew who has not lifted himself out of the mire of propaganda and electronic distraction for even a minute to stop and think

No. Why should they be kept out just because they were born in a poor country? People who want to come here to work should be allowed.

i dont care about money

whites will be treated like shit when we're a minority and obviously that's bad for us so we're against it. why would i want white americans to be a stateless people who are scapegoated and stolen from?

Even when illegals are in the studies, they still commit less crime.

>Compete for jobs with native population
>Compete for housing with native population
>Compete for food with native population
>Compete for social benefits with native population

But that 2% temporary increase in GDP sure is worth it.

What's wrong with choosing the best people to live in our country alongside us? My family moved to the US legally why the fuck cant they?
>no money
We came here with nothing, and we crawled our way to middle class.

My family's cars just got fucking totaled by an illegal mexican man that was drunk driving. Our cars were parked. We got out and asked if he was okay. He said "yeah" and just left his wrecked car and walked off. We found out from the police that it had no insurance and was registered to an owner that lived NOWHERE near our county.

He just left his fucking car and bolted.

The JQ has been debunked by Cofnas.

And GDP per capita is a very good indication of well being.

Pretty much anyone who isn't a faggot would disagree with your disagreement.

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No they wont. Whites are minorities in a lot of countries and do fine. Anyway immigrants assimilate very well in America so you dont have much to worry about.

No.

No again.

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It is debatable if they help grow the economy.
Trade agreements made immigration unnecessary 30 years ago. The internet makes immigration less necessary now because people can have jobs in their own countries. New cities are not being built to accommodate all the new people. Since immigrants age too, they will eventually add burden social security and medicare.
Immigrants don't commit less crime, they get prosecuted less for the crimes they commit. Their presence creates a system of anarcho tyranny in which immigrant crimes are harder to detect, so the government can only prosecute and control white citezens.

Truthfully, they make places look shitty and they destroy the sense of community that exists... and they lower the value of labour.. which has already gone down 40% due to women entering the workforce. Immigrants may be fine people, but they aren't needed or wanted to be honest. They really should focus on building their own nations... that's a much more noble goal.

It's not all that difficult really.

There are more benefits than negatives for the overall population. And most jobs that immigrants are competing for are not ones that natives usually go into.

>commit less crime than natives.
which natives are those user?

we're not against immigration, we're against mass immigration of unproductive incompatible cultures who are there for the purpose of rapid demographic change and as a political trojan horse

regular levels od immigration of productive, compatible people is great

>Whites are minorities in a lot of countries and do fine
*cough cough* south africa *cough cough*
>Anyway immigrants assimilate very well in America
no they don't, people of colour wouldn't have their own distinct identities and constantly be attacking whites if that were the case

You could easily say "why cant we just choose the best US citizens and revoke the other's US citizenship."

Go ahead and be delusional then.

so you're okay with the chinese colonising your country as long as they do it "legally"?

>gdp per capita
>good

I produce 10 million dollars in goods, using 100 slaves I pay nothing.
A GDP of 100,000 means life is great for everyone, right.

Americans are coming to the realization that they are slowly being dispossessed of their rightful inheritance, through no other fault but the cravenness and stupidity of their immediate forebears, who through gradual concessions have given their country over to a hostile enemy.

These are the chief crimes:

sobran.com/articles/tyranny.shtml

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_Nationality_Act_of_1965

Proofs? Didn't think so

>Anyone with half a fucking brain is against Illegal immigrants
Spic don't seem to understand more illegal spics reduce their wages. They compete in Spanish speaking areas with spics who have been their longer. So no one wins, but they keep advocating for more immigration.

You are simply ignorant then. Go look at a study and see for yourself. Heres one. manhattan-institute.org/html/measuring-immigrant-assimilation-united-states-5835.html

And the JQ has been debunked by Nathan Cofnas.

We aren't, we are against illegal immigration, and chain migration. Also there are times when immigration needs to be cut way back in order for those new ones to assimilate into Americans.

>shown to commit less crimes.
Yeah. Its probably because theyre all given welfare and free college and healthcare.

no we're against all non-white immigration and if you aren't then you're a spineless faggot

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>Immigrants don't commit less crime, they get prosecuted less for the crimes they commit.

What exactly is this based on? Are you saying that the studies done by experts have missed this one crucial aspect?

And its not really debatable, multiple studies show the same thing, its reasonable to conclude that immigrants area good thing.

If you hate immigrants and cheap labor then you also hate Capitalism

There’s nothing more Capitalist than open borders and free competition

which race are we talking about?
nigger and sandnigger?
or caucasian and east asian?
useful idiots

The USA should make skilled immigration easier. Imo the Canadian system works well.

You miss the point, they lower the value of some labor but that means that things are then cheaper for the rest of the country. In the end this is a good thing overall for a country.

Blacks and hispanics skew native crime statistics. Illegal immigrants DO commit more crime than native White population. "immigrants commit less crime" is a canard.

I think all immigration needs to stop immediately.

Illegal aliens have a crime rate of 100% actually.

>which natives are those user?

All natives.

we're not against immigration, we're against mass immigration of unproductive incompatible cultures who are there for the purpose of rapid demographic change and as a political trojan horse

Theres no good evidence this is the case. Studies show that immigrants assimilate well, but they dont do as well when they can get on welfare, that is why they assimilate better in AMerica.

We have had this exact same fucking thread for weeks now.

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>What exactly is this based on? Are you saying that the studies done by experts have missed this one crucial aspect?
the studies say prosecuted less. Not commit less. you are deliberately deceiving people.

It's an inferential opinion grounded in research.

>And most jobs that immigrants are competing for are not ones that natives usually go into.

"Why don't you do shit for $7 an hour!!!!"

>Immigration helps grow the economy and immigrants have been shown to commit less crime than natives.
Native niggers maybe

If the immigrants in question were all well-educated and civilized, you're right. Unfortunately the ones we're discussing are low skill, I.Q. and want to rape our women.

Hispanics/Mestizos are the elephant in the room for Americans on this site regardless of immigration status.

Thing is they commit crimes at about the same rate as Whites when you break the data down by age and ignore immigration related crime.

Pic and link related.

unz.com/runz/the-myth-of-hispanic-crime/

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>this entire thread
Capitalists get the bullet too

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Ask the Romans in the 2nd century BCE how immigrants helped their economy.

Specifically, ask the Gracchi brothers, Marius, and Sulla. They might be able to help you.

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Blacks commit a lot of crime. The same is not true for spics

See

Slavery is illegal in the US. This is a horrible argument. Go look at the top GDP's per capita around the world and youll see a trend.

>There’s nothing more Capitalist than open borders and free competition
That's only true if everyone else is following the rules. Which they don't.

Not the 1965 immigration act again. You guys dont even know what youre talking about when you bring this up.

you're all actually fucking retards for making an economic or crime case against immigration. the real reason you're against immigration is because it's make your country less white but you're too afraid to admit that so you tapdance around with questionable crime statistics and economic theory

if you make an argument from a standpoint of identity and what minority-majority america will be like for whites he won't respond because he doesn't have an argument against you

I wonder why?? they only benefit the elites, the 1% of the 1%

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Prices become cheaper for more people More production is done in the country. Its basic economics.

Is there any evidence for this? Studies show right now that immigrants assimilate well into America.

Things are made cheaper overseas, to they become a group of stagnant people who burden the overall country.

Because they undercut the working poor. You say "but nobody would pick berries or work construction for $5 an hour!!", which is true, but they can only get away with paying that little because immigrants are willing to work for that little. Without immigrants undercutting everyone, the farmers might have to pay minimum wage to berry pickers.

There's a reason why the US Government banned undercutting in the 1900's, and it's because it leads to the little guy getting screwed while the rich get richer.

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"Muh white arbitrary standard"

>immigrants have been shown to commit less crime than natives.

handpicked legal immigrants. not the trash of central and south america that couldnt cut it in their own countries

How do they make the country great if I am not allowed to partake in their culture and experienced without being accused of cultural appropriation?

>basic economics
>this is your proof

lmao, is this the best plebbit has to offer?

what?

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I'm not a fan of my country becoming less white, but the economic and societal drain due to cheap foreign labor is a MUCH larger problem. I doubt the Romans cared about Latium becoming less Latin as people from the North moved in. What they did care about was people from the North coming in (as slaves) and undercutting their labor, leaving them poor and homeless.

ILLEGAL immigrants you idiot.

>Why should they be kept out just because they were born in a poor country

Their country is poor because their people are shit.

I think youre just assuming this. Immigration rate has been increasing and yet crime rate has been going down. Its most likely that native Whites commit more crime than immigrants.

>commit crimes at about the same rate as Whites
Incarcerated is not the same as commit.

>Even when illegals are in the studies, they still commit less crime.

False. Absolutely false. Illegals cimmit significantly more crime.

Whites have repeatedly, for Years have profusely let the Spaniars know that we Truly love, and Appreciate You.

But all we ask. PLEASE come here legally.. I beg You.

You’d be wrong. Undocumented immigrants commit less crime than the average native born US citizen (but not necessarily less than the average White US citizen)

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Econimy student here, you're full of shit

its necessary in the current political climate, otherwise you will be doxxed and never live a fulfilling, successful life. blame le jews

if illegal immigrants were white you wouldn't have a problem, face it pede

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no, they shouldn't

No. And even if that were the case youd have to somehow think that illegals are getting let off easy in the Justice system which no one would believe. They face a much tougher time in the Justice system than a native.

no it isn't, the sooner we start talking about race the better, white americans need to get their identity back FAST, you're perpetuating civic nationalist cuckery

Because I don't want to live around niggers.

Would economists disagree with the assertion that increasing the labor pool deflates wages? Would an economist disagree that US real wages have been stagnant since mass Immigration began? Would an economist disagree with the fact that immigrant households of all continental origin use social services at higher rates than native households?

net immigration has been down over the past several years. Crime has been decreasing overall in the U.S except in discrete urban areas...

Is that why he cited zero studies?

They lower the value of all labor. There is no segment of the job market that doesn't have immigrants being used to depress wages. I don't know where they find you retards that still think it's the mid 1990s and the only jobs you can get in the US as a foreigner are on an agricultural visa but there are so fucking many of you there must be some centralized source. I'd say you'd picked it up in college but I get impression you're kinda dumb and probably didn't go.

Nope it is that too many are here now, and need to assimilate, but ye we do need to stop importing lower tier ethnicities as well. Multiculturalism destroys nations.

According to a study by the bank of England a 10% rise in immigration results in a 2% decrease in wages.

The overall population.

Immigrants commit less crime than natives.

>There’s nothing more Capitalist than open borders and free competition

42 percent of illegals are collecting some form of welfare

$400 billion a year (legal is $300 Biliion), coward raised faggot.
I want my $40,000 back, you goddamn deadbeat.