Friends, I've spent the past few days in black-pilled torment. If not for my fiancée and a few good friends, the despair would be unbearable. Does anyone have any takes on our current situation that provide any degree of hope? Or if we're all equally hopeless, how do you cope?
Friends, I've spent the past few days in black-pilled torment. If not for my fiancée and a few good friends...
Blake Turner
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Tyler Cook
And what, pray tell, has you so depressed?
Wyatt Davis
Wait for the collapse and rebuild anew. The current West doesn't deserve to be saved, nor can it be.
Bentley Peterson
Coming to the realization (or at least the perception) that Marxists are winning the battle of hearts and minds, and that all the beauty and triumph of western culture will be erased or re-written. Of course, it's hyperbolic, and the human mind is prone to catastrophism, but good news or an optimistic outlook would do me some good, I think.
Lucas Mitchell
>hah, look at me, i have a fiance and good friends, fuck all you incel losers
uh, ok
Ethan Adams
That's beginning to seem like the only practicable solution, if it can even be called practicable. What's most painful about it all is that no one else seems to be bothered by the direction of the world, and I worry that maybe I'm fighting against the inevitable.
Aiden Lopez
Not my intention, but sounds good, mang.
Kevin Anderson
The Marxists are a mere part of a much larger cancer that has been embedded in much of the West since 1775, though one could argue that Protestantism was a sort of first sign of the disease. What is this disease/cancer that I speak of? Revolution. It has successfully managed to overturn what little tradition there was left in the West and much of the East. The American revolution not only set the precedent for the French revolution by being the first domino to fall, but it also directly contributed to the existence of the causes of the French revolution, as France provided so much support to the American revolutionaries in an effort to undermine the British that it ended up bankrupting itself. The Jacobins of France were the predecessors of the Bolsheviks and all other revolutionary groups such as them.
Carter Miller
> how do you cope?
I'm in the process of converting to Talmudic Judaism.
also, greentext or post timestamped pic to show you're not a demoralization-shill.
have you taken the woman redpill yet?
Elijah Rogers
the west since the fall of the roman empire has always been dominated by the rich unlike the asiatic world controlled either by faith (islam and russia) or bureaucracy (china). the rich fought most ferociously against the roman church, the islamic civilization, and the asiatic empires because otherwise the peasantry might have figured out that domination by the rich in "democracy" and "liberty" is a farce and there really is a lot of benefits to living in a homogeneous totalitarian dictatorship
Brody Thomas
The woman red pill came first, my friend. Thought a "manic pixie dream girl" would save me. Boy howdy was that supreme faggotry on my part. Choked that pill down quickly. Not bothered by women being women anymore; it's just their nature.
Josiah Taylor
>Hurr revuluton cuncept sthart in murika
Aaron Sanchez
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You will need it
Evan Murphy
I prefer having a traditional form of government, where God is the form and a Monarch is the reflection. A 'natural' hierarchy exists under such a government, where the citizenry, nobility, clergy and monarchy don't overlap with each other and so-called class mobility is highly limited in order to limit inner conflict within society itself.
Jack Miller
Revolution as we know it today, that is revolution based on enlightenment 'values' as happened in 1775, 1789, 1848 and so on did indeed start in America. Though as I've mentioned before, the first major shift in the post-Roman European status quo was Protestantism and the result of the thirty years' war. That was hardly enough to shatter the traditional order altogether, however. For that are to be blamed the 18th, 19th and even early 20th century revolutionaries.
Chase Hernandez
More than 1 in 4 Americans believe a civil war is coming, and many wealthy white Americans have left the country because they fear civil war. Saw an interesting documentary about that latter part. On top of that, for the first time in living memory, you have terms like “civil war,” “treason,” and “enemy of the people” being thrown around at the highest levels of politics. Picture Rome circa 50 BC, right before the transition from Republic to Empire. Things are finally starting to get interesting, and you’re getting depressed? Cheer up dude, imagine how bad it would be to have been racially aware in 1990 when no one else could see what’s coming. Our generation is just in time for the main event.
Camden Nguyen
Don’t bother trying to explain Traditionalist/Evolite takes to the average 4/pol/ moron, that guy you’re responding to most likely still things “right wing” means “low taxes.”
Asher Parker
You've certainly got a point, though if you think the American Empire will turn out positively, you are severely mistaken.
Zachary Thomas
I didn't think Evola preached this kind of stuff, given his association with highly revolutionary romanticist movements. I'm more of a Platonist than anything, though I do enjoy Rene Guenon's works.
Charles Roberts
Kek I’ve never seen that virgin/chad meme. Yeah what you were describing about the involutive processes of revolution based on englightenment ideals is exactly in line with Evola, especially if you read Men Among the Ruins or Revolt Against the Modern World. Evola’s own involvement with revolutionary and contre-bourgeois movements in his youth don’t tell the whole story. In fact, he later taught to avoid personal involvement with any such movement, and saw any possible positive effects of participation in modern political groups as nothing more than a sort of method of self-improvement. In Notes on the Third Reich and Path of Cinnabar, you can tell that Evola had some hopes that he could amplify what was good about the various fascist movements and attempt to quash their anti-aristocratic aspects. Later in life he was extremely blackpilled, and that’s where you get the whole thesis of Ride the Tiger (i.e. being active in the world but inwardly detached).
Connor Torres
Once white people get their crosshairs on the enemy it’s game over. If you can’t expose the jews to your family and friends you need to read more, knwo your enemy...our enemy.
Hudson Diaz
>Or if we're all equally hopeless
What the hell are you talking about? Things are wonderful. We have an amazing president. People are leaving the disgusting left in droves. Jobs are abundant..
It's time to celebrate.
Logan Thomas
You are not alone. Remember that the enemy is very much into demoralization. They want people to be blackpilled into inaction and hopelessness. More people are waking up now than ever. It may not seem like it, and it will take time, but it'll happen. Christianity seemed like a small cult in the middle of nowhere, but it spread like wildfire in the face of persecution and took over. I'm not saying getting redpilled is some kind of crusader shit, but I think it's a decent enough analogy.
Daniel Wood
The only way Europeans will survive is if civilization collapses- and collapsing it is
Samuel Morales
I appreciate it, user. Keep fighting the good fight.
Angel Rogers
>leaving the disgusting left in droves
Is there any truth to this?
Jack Lewis
Thanks for the quick rundown. I always sort of had a slight distaste for Evola due to his associations with the Third Reich and other quite revolutionary elements, though I can sympathize a lot with his intention of "subverting" them towards true tradition. Anyway, I don't know if you've read it, but I would strongly recommend you a book by a Polish/Russian author named Ferdynand Ossendowski, the title of which is Beasts, Men and Gods. It has highly traditionalist vibes and isn't all that long, and I consider it a real hidden gem. It takes place during the Russian civil war, in Mongolia and in Russia.
Caleb Wilson
It is difficult to comprehend, living in the moment, but I think it is also very important to understand that no matter how terrible things may seem in your own lifetime, it really is never the end of the world. The fall of Rome, the Axis defeat in WW2 and almost 50 years of being on the brink of nuclear annihilation with an actual communist empire, and we're still here. Things are quite bad, but right-wing rhetoric is still quite in circulation. Our speech is still allowed. Our opinions are often quite socially ostracized, but that could change in just a few years.
Political violence is escalating, but it is barely at a low simmer, we haven't even begun really fighting. Until you see clashes with knives and guns, we are not living in dangerous times. But I don't find it particularly important to talk about daily news, it simply doesn't matter. Everything is a cycle, good wins, then evil wins, then repeat forever and ever. There is no "winning" this battle, it simply never ends. It cannot. It's like thinking that we're damned to eternal darkness just because the sun has set. And just as the sun shall rise again tomorrow, the enemy or ourselves shall win or lose again tomorrow.
I don't particularly care at all about politics. If every western government collapsed tomorrow it would not spell our end. Blacks would quickly drop back down to their tribal numbers, and in the chaos, the asians would begin infighting even within their own countries, and shatter into a dozen pieces again. The Chinese cannot keep their country in one piece for more than a few hundred years, it will never happen.
I highly advise you to read the political works of older times, things like Mein Kampf, anything by Evola, The Decline of the West by Spengler, and Reflections on the Revolution in France by Burke. I always encourage you to read more (I'll post the two /pol reading lists in a moment) but reading the thoughts on politics of a different time is very insightful.
Jeremiah Hernandez
and part 2
Gavin Hall
This
The pendulum will eventually swing back.
History is filled with numerous examples of much worse times to be alive.