What Bible should Jow Forums be reading?

What Bible should Jow Forums be reading?

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"Paraphrase" = Dumbed down disgusting shit.

Start with the non-canonical resources and learn Ancient Greek to read the prototexts.

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Gospel of Thomas – possibly proto-Gnostic; 1st to mid 2nd century; collection of 114 sayings attributed to Jesus, 31 of them with no parallel in the canonical gospels
Gospel of Marcion – 2nd century; potentially an edited version of the Gospel of Luke or a document which predates Luke (see: Marcionism)
Gospel of Basilides – composed in Egypt around 120 to 140 AD; thought to be a gnostic gospel harmony of the canonical gospels
Gospel of Truth (Valentinian) – mid 2nd century; departed from earlier gnostic works by admitting and defending the physicality of Christ and his resurrection.
Gospel of the Four Heavenly Realms – mid 2nd century; thought to be a gnostic cosmology, most likely in the form of a dialogue between Jesus and his disciples.
Gospel of Mary – 2nd century
Gospel of Judas – 2nd century
Greek Gospel of the Egyptians – second quarter of the 2nd century
Gospel of Philip
Pseudo-Gospel of the Twelve – A Syriac language gospel titled the Gospel of the Twelve. This work is shorter than the regular gospels and seems to be different from the lost Gospel of the Twelve.[4]
Gospel of Perfection – 4th century; an Ophite poem that is only mentioned once by a single patristic source, Epiphanius[5] and is referred to once in the 6th century Syriac Infancy Gospel
The Gospel of the Lots of Mary - 6th century.

>Catholic Douay-Rheims not included in op's pic
Hmmmm

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the word of Jehovah

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Read anyone of them and you will realize it's all bullshit. Magic Jew on a Stick give me a break.

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I know the Douay Rheims and Jerusalem Bible and NRSV-CE are full bibles, but why so many cut down shortened versions?

>strawpoll.me/16196174
Book of Enoch pt1, and pt2 emerald tablets of thoth next.

Explain?

*tips fedora*
You're so smart dude you got life all figured out.

KJV only ever

>hides flag
>annoying faggot
If a wise man contendeth with a foolish man, whether he rage or laugh, there is no rest.

Oh some new thing, God promised to preserve his word for every generation and you would dare claim he failed to include these 'missing' gospels? What does revelation say will happen to people that try to add or remove from Gods word?

Douay-Rheims is an objectively better Thou James Version.

Gnostics are the biggest faggots on the planet.

Protestants don't use the deuterocanononical books, there's no really good reason to throw them out even if there's nothing that feels absolutely vital in there.

Enjoy not having the Book of Tobit, nerd.

Yes, but there are more that are worthy of reading and have been removed from the Scriptures.

Douay-Rheims is the only answer

NASB would be the most accurate modern translation I presume

That's the whole point of the pic, are you being accurate to the individual words, or accurate to the idea behind the words?

KJV is the Jow Forums approved version

Its the worse translation ever

New Living Translation
He was then permitted to give life to this statue so that it could speak. Then the statue of the beast commanded that anyone refusing to worship it must die.

English Standard Version
And it was allowed to give breath to the image of the beast, so that the image of the beast might even speak and might cause those who would not worship the image of the beast to be slain.

Berean Study Bible
The second beast was permitted to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship it to be killed.

Berean Literal Bible
And there was given to it to give breath to the image of the beast, so that image of the beast also should speak, and should cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast would be killed.

New American Standard Bible
And it was given to him to give breath to the image of the beast, so that the image of the beast would even speak and cause as many as do not worship the image of the beast to be killed.

King James Bible
And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

American Standard Version
And it was given unto him to give breath to it, even to the image to the breast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as should not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

Douay-Rheims Bible
>And it was given him to give life to the image of the beast, and that the image of the beast should speak; and should cause, that whosoever will not adore the image of the beast, should be slain.


>adore
>worship

But then again Catholics do love to change the definition of worhip

how the fuck is religion STILL a thing in 2018? have you guys ever heard of the age of enlightenment?

think for yourselves, sheep.

Douay-Rheims is surpassed only by the Vulgate.

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>Not reading the Bible in the original Greek and Latin

Patrician tier

adore comes from the Latin root words:

ad (to) and orare (speak, pray)

it then evolved into it's own word

"adorare" which means "to worship, pray to"

this then evolved into the modern "adore" which still has as one of it's primary definitions:

"to pray, to worship"

But then again, you're a Freemason shill.

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>have you guys ever heard of the age of enlightenment?
Yeah, it was the worst thing to happen to humanity since Adam ate the fruit.

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KJV nigga. Stephen Anderson approved.

Probably more than anyone else in this thread kek.

worship is with a deity catholic shill, adoration is not , latin was not even a language used by God its greek

>implying Jesus didn't speak Latin.

this, i'll give you guys an example: in Mark when Magdalene and the other women go to the grave/sepulcher of jesus they find a young man, in Luke they find two men in bright clothes. for a perfect and all-powerful god there sure are a lot of inconsistencies.

16:5 And entering into the sepulchre, they saw a young man sitting on the right side, clothed in a long white garment; and they were affrighted.
24:4 And it came to pass, as they were much perplexed thereabout, behold, two men stood by them in shining garments:

its all made up by the jews, i say this unironically

>implying Jesus didn't speak Latin.

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Where does it say there was only one? You added the "only" into your interpretation. It is not in the actual Gospel.

Weak atheist "rebuttals" remain weak.

i dunno even why i post this

>It is generally agreed by historians that Jesus and his disciples primarily spoke Aramaic (Jewish Palestinian Aramaic), the common language of Judea in the first century AD, most likely a Galilean dialect distinguishable from that of Jerusalem.[1] The towns of Nazareth and Capernaum in Galilee, where Jesus spent most of his time, were Aramaic-speaking communities.[2] It is also likely that Jesus knew enough Koine Greek to converse with those not native to Palestine, and it is also possible that Jesus knew some Hebrew for religious purposes.[3][4][5]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_of_Jesus

>using wikipedia as a source on Biblical research.
But then again, you are a freemason shill.

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>"maybe there were 3 or 4 or maybe more that is just not writen there goy but they were there"

it shows there is no allpowerful and perfect god, its all a farce, nice try with the "high verbal IQ" jewsh tactic, there is also no "only" in my previous post

Of course wikipedia is not sourced from other sources

>generally agreed by historians that Jesus and his disciples primarily spoke Aramaic

>tries to find contradiction
>is btfo
>reacts with autistic screeching and typos
typical brainwashed atheist

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>citing """"""""""""""""historians"""""""""""""""" that don't even claim Jesus didn't speak Latin.

The gospels are eye witness acounts person 1 sees a red car and person 2 sees a blue car , did any of the persons lie for not seeing a red or blue car ? . there was a red car and a blue car this is the complete story

I'm a DR-dude but I thought it was always historical consensus that Jesus would have primarily spoken Aramaic and may have also known Greek because he had educated friends/acquaintances.

how was i btfo? i just showed you an inconsistency in the bible, which was supposed to be the perfect word of god who is infallible. you get it? or are you just trolling me by pretending to be retarded?

www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2018/march/cold-case-investigator-turns-to-science-to-try-to-disprove-christs-resurrection

What a fucken brainlet

The gospel was written by guys recalling shit from memory while separated WHILE being hunted like animals. They’re human, of course there will be minor inconsistencies in their accounts.

Jesus most likely knew enough Latin to be conversant. I didn't say he primarily spoke Latin, I said he could speak Latin.

>i just showed you an inconsistency in the bible
No, you didn't. You tried to claim there was an inconsistency by implicitly adding the word "only" into the reading.

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bro im not even talking about science here, there is inconsistency between two accounts (mark and luke) that should coincide. And im not nittpicking things that could be mistranslated later on or semantics.

Wallace added, "There's just no history of kind of group hallucinations with the kind of detail that we see in the gospels. So I was never fond of that explanation." - this is from the article, guess he never heard of ppl who claim to have been abducted by aliens

The book Revelation was written by John the Beloved. The original text was written in Koine Greek.

Don't let pity issues bring discord among your fellow men, brother. I dare to say that Jesus could speak all languages. But his disciples only knew a few languages.

The Message?

The gospels we have today aren't first-hand and perfectly preserved accounts. They emerged out of tradition. Mark is the oldest complete and accepted gospel but we have different versions of it and older similar accounts which we believe shaped it. The four gospels emerged out of four traditions which formed as different Christian communities founded by the apostles circulated the eyewitness stories, read them their own ways, spun them around a little and finally by the time they were written down nobody had the story perfectly and definitively. It was accepted by the (still relatively) early Church that Matthew, Mark, Luke and John are the best and most reliable accounts that we have and ought to be considered canon.

>guess he never heard of ppl who claim to have been abducted by aliens

That is just a strawman people who claim to be abducted just make the story up from other people , no hallucinations involved the 12 apostles died for what they believed because they seen it . give me one person who will die for his belief in aliens

>ppl who claim to have been abducted by aliens
Individuals who are not together, give wildly different accounts of alien biology, aesthetics, purpose, technology, and language. Mostly occurring during night, and while in bed, many describing themselves as "half-awake" in a "dreamlike trance".
vs.
large groups (sometimes hundreds) of people in the daylight, who gave extremely consistent accounts, and were corroborated by external evidence (empty tomb, sudden knowledge, miraculous healings).

>I dare to say that Jesus could speak all languages

In flesh Jesus, still has the restrictions of the brain to speak all languages is a large dare

it's claimed that they were wrote by divine inspiration because those four could not have known some things like what happened in the garden when jesus was praying because they were asleep.

>The gospels we have today aren't first-hand and perfectly preserved accounts.
an imperfect book by a perfect god

>They emerged out of tradition.
all religions did

>[...]spun them around a little and finally by the time they were written down nobody had the story perfectly and definitively.
spun them around a little...so they are made up and not writen by the apostles

>older similar accounts which we believe shaped it.
The Q document has never been found, no reference to it has ever been found, and it remains entirely theoretical.

Mark was written by John Mark
Matthew was written by the apostle Matthew (this is probably the earliest gospel, written within 4 years of Jesus' death)
Luke was written by the historian and doctor Luke (who was probably a Greek-Jew)
John was written by the apostle John.

>e those four could not have known some things like what happened in the garden
After Jesus rose from the dead, he spent 40 days with them. This is where they would have learned about his actions in the Garden.

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True. But Jesus walked continually in the Spirit. And it is known that the disciples starting speaking in tongues on/after Pentecost. If they trough the Holy Spirit could speak in tongues, why wouldn't Jesus through the Spirit have done the same thing?

I agree that this is my opinion. And your argument is valid also.

Necronomicon

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanganyika_laughter_epidemic
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey-man_of_Delhi
express.co.uk/news/weird/851194/UFO-aliens-police-helicopter-Los-Angeles
here are some mass hallucination

as for
>who gave extremely consistent accounts
my original post was about the inconsistency

>starting speaking in tongues on/after Pentecost.

Then its done by the spirit and not by Jesus , Jesus is God as a spirit, but as a man he is just a man and he is able to get nails driven through his hands , and he in not able to know all things as a man

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanganyika_laughter_epidemic
Not a hallucination.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey-man_of_Delhi
Not a hallucination. Accounts are all from night, descriptions are inconsistent, "witnesses" are reported as being isolated at the time of the "event"
>express.co.uk/news/weird/851194/UFO-aliens-police-helicopter-Los-Angeles
Not a hallucination (there is video evidence) but a case of mistaken identity.

>my original post was about the inconsistency
And I proved there was no inconsistency:

Witness 1: A well-dressed man approached us and said: "Hello"
Witness 2: We saw two well-dressed men, one of whom approached us and said "Hello"

Are not inconsistent, just one omits certain details and the other is more fleshed out.

Strong's Bible isnt listed. On top of all that, there is no original roman version from the Vatican listed. The version we mortals will never ever get to see.

Jesus has both a Divine soul and a Human soul, and has both a Divine intellect and a Human intellect and always possesses both in total harmony with each-other. He was fully capable of reason from the moment of his conception, but chose to "learn" as men do, not out of necessity, but out of humility. His humanity and his Divinity cannot be separated, but are perfectly united from his conception into eternity.

That is the meaning of the famous "hand-gesture" that you see him making in paintings. He holds up two fingers to show his Divine and Human nature, Divine and Human will, Divine and Human intellect.

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That is already disproven here


Matthew 24:36 King James Version (KJV)

>36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

Jesus is not omniscience

>Are not inconsistent, just one omits certain details and the other is more fleshed out.
or perhaps this is just seeing that all those jews are liars-liars-pants/robes-on-fire

as for the hallucinations it was my mistake to give modern accounts which are easy to dismiss, look at buddha teleporting between river banks and all other ancient religion crap from around the world

Why make 4 gospels and not make them consistent to each other ? this does not make a lot of sense

Fuck off with your heretic shit

Read the "Sermon on the Mount, " especially the Beatitudes, and you'll be fine.

"Knoweth" was in reference to them asking Him. (Matt. 24:3) He is saying "Do not ask me about this, because you will know only when you meet my Father in Heaven."

You should really read more in to cold case Christianity

coldcasechristianity.com/2017/how-many-women-visited-the-tomb-of-jesus/


If the Jews faked a religion why would they make 4 gospels with the same content , and to make it worse then they would make errors debunking their new religion , while they could just have 1 gospel

coldcasechristianity.com/2017/how-many-women-visited-the-tomb-of-jesus/

>All things are delivered to me by my Father. And no one knoweth the Son, but the Father: neither doth any one know the Father, but the Son, and he to whom it shall please the Son to reveal him.
Matthew 11:27

>The Father loveth the Son: and he hath given all things into his hand
John 3:35

>As the Father knoweth me, and I know the Father: and I lay down my life for my sheep.
John 10:15

>Just Father, the world hath not known thee; but I have known thee: and these have known that thou hast sent me.
John 17:25

You are mistaking Jesus' human knowledge for his Divine knowledge. Jesus' humanity could not know the hour of the coming of the Son, but in his Divinity he had to know because "the Father" hath given all things" to the Son. Later, Jesus tells them that he has not been sent to tell them the hour of his coming:

>But he said to them: It is not for you to know the times or moments, which the Father hath put in his own power:
Acts 1:7

It is heretical to claim the Jesus was not omniscient in his Divine intellect. His human intellect was not omniscient only when taken by itself, but united with his Divine intellect (as it always is and always will be) then he is omniscient.

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If you don't read it in it's ancient languages then you're going to hell.

>Abraham did not read the bible. He goes to hell

Very positive results, anons. See here if you need further answers: KJVToday.com

The thot for thot one sounds very good

He heard the world of God. Are you saying the same?

>look at buddha teleporting between river banks and all other ancient religion crap from around the world
This is begging the question. While you or I may not believe in said apparitions, you are claiming that they are proof of mass hallucination without having first proved that they were not real events, or were not cases of mistaken identity, or were not some kind of mental trick, or were indeed witnessed and not just written down.

There is no actual basis for claiming "mass hallucination" has ever occurred.

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>No Orthodox Study Bible option
Reminder that every Catholic and Protestant Bible use the (((Masoretic Text)))

Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness. God saves trough faith.

Works cannot save me, but I need works to save my faith in Him who desires to make me righteous.
For faith without works is dead.

Nah 3 times its in the bible jesus is not omniscience

Mark 13:32
King James Bible
>But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.

Jesus wasn't Jewish. He was a Galilean and openly rejected the Jew religion.

>Reminder that every Catholic
Except for every Catholic Bible pre-1943, you mean.

Douay-Rheims/Vulgate is Jesuit and Papist shit (and admitted by the Catholic Church, since they discourage you from reading it) yet better than almost everything else on that list. Also, Apocrypha/"Deuterocanon" are ahistorical Alexandrian Gnostic and Phariseeical shit.

It's so niggers can go to heaven (they can't though, they are beasts of burden)

That's not a refutation of my explanation for Jesus' idiom, there. That's just another verse of Him stating the same thing. Try again (and also keep in mind what some of these other anons are telling you about Jesus' "Hypostatic Union").

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In English, adoration is due only to God. Worship (originally worth-ship) was due to anyone in a high position. That's why you could call a king "your worship."

At some point in the last 100 years, worship and adore switched places for some inexplicable reason. Nevertheless, from a literacy standpoint, adore is more correct.

>It is heretical to claim the Jesus was not omniscient in his Divine intellect. His human intellect was not omniscient only when taken by itself, but united with his Divine intellect (as it always is and always will be) then he is omniscient.

But yet you have given not one verse to proof this , no one knows the day or the hour proves that Jesus is not omniscient

>adore is more correct.


i am out of here

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Too blurry. Greentext summary?

There are inconsistencies in accounts of JFK's assassination. So I guess he must still be alive.

Matthean primacy is the patrician position. The only argument for Mark is "it's shorter lol"

>Textual criticism
>Even once

Learn the original language or use a concordance. There is no such thing as a literal translation because ancient languages work differently and their meanings change with context

I've only read the bibles in hotel rooms, great surface for coke

>pic related is Satan, himself
2 Thess. 2:3-4
Romans 10:9
Revelation 18:4

Kjv

It's literally a Jesuit translation, so, no surprise, there

>Freemason shill
Freemasonry wasn't occultic until the Jesuits entered it in the late 1600s and made it about being "Enlightened" (with Lucifer, the "light" bearer), so you're not helping yourself, Antichrist worshipper

Jesus saw Nathaniel under the fig tree.

Jesus could do whatever was necessary to prepare the Apostles. Speaking in tongues was not one of those things. That said, he probably could speak multiple languages (as could many people in ancient Judea, as it was such a crossroads). Aramaic, Hebrew, possibly Latin and Greek.

>Jesuits were a response to the Protestant teachings.
>Jesuits caused problems in every Christian land in Europe, inciting wars and tumults.
>By 1773 the Jesuits caused even Catholic countries to go war against eachother
>Kicked out of 83 countries, each for political infiltration
>Pope makes a bull, says Jesuits are so even they forbid them, unbind their oaths
>Pope gets poisoned by Jesuits
>Pope knew he would die, but not this slow and painfull
>Jesuits go underground
>Jesuits started the enlightment period that is present with us today.
>Jesuits trained Adam Weishaubt into setting up the illimunati in bavaria and france
>Bavaria failed, France succeeded
>Jesuits took control of France, kicked out the new pope
>Napoleon (freemasonry) gains control of Europe
>Jesuits go to pope and ask for a return of the Jesuit Order
>Approval

>But yet you have given not one verse to proof this
I gave you five.

I disagree with you about much, Orthobro, but I like this post.

>He hasn't read St. Bellarmine's "AntiChrist"

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