Know why I went MGTOW? I tried debunking MGTOW
MGTOW Pill
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saw this thread yesterday fat incel
MGTOW = repressed homosexuality
also
What I understand is, why not get a waifu instead of being MGTOW?
This. 800 year old loli fox waifus are the final redpill.
>debunk an assertion
No
>not being responsible for your own actions; blaming women
No
>pretending women are the issue
See previous answer
MGTOW is for men who can only attract low value women. I agree you shouldn't marry an ugly whore with 3 kids and you'd certainly have a healthier, happier life if you don't involve yourself with crazy bitches but for men who can get decent women it's stupid.
MGTOW works on the argument that women are horrible the reality is people who follow MGTOW can only attract shit tier women.
Hey guys serious question. How do you deal with being called a "manchild"? Please don't give me a meme answer. Two women have called me one lately and I don't know how to combat it because of my feelings of inferiority I've had throughout my life. I'm Jow Forums as fuck, 25 yo boomer, have a great job, no debt, don't do drugs, etc. Pretty much all the qualities you SHOULD want in a partner. But I get called a manchild by women. Why? I don't play vidya or do autistic anime waifu shit in public. The only manchild thing I do is Jow Forums and no one knows I go on here.
People who hate and try to debunk MGTOW
- Whiteknights
- Cucks
- Dating coaches
- Femminists
- Roasties
- Pseudo Chads
- Goverment
People who dont hate MGTOW
- Chads
Just say "I dont care" and walk away.
I approve of mgtow. Just find some way of incorporating reproduction into it (that isn't a larp like artificial wombs or whatever.) I don't want a dystopic future for my descendants where they have to live among only chad-roastie derived people and where all the high IQ autismo-strains have committed genetic sudoku.
Probs shit testing you
"Chad"= dumb fuckboy.
Don't fall for the MGTOW Jew.
You're under 6'3"
the absolute state of the west...
Just legalize beatings and fix your shit
Be happy you still seem young while your mind does not work that way unexpectedly.
Laugh and amplify. If they call you childish, annoy them by being extra childish. Who the fuck cares what some women thinks anyways?
Thank you for the replies, friends.
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My point is valid because - modern age standards.
Just saying,
They are testing you.
To see if you have a decent selfconfidence, it seems you indeed have not, but you can always fake it.
Little by little that fake selfconfidence will become true selfconfidence.
Idk, I love my gf and she loves me, I'm pretty happy with the situation
Literally stop caring what others think already
Like you said, you are objectively not a manchild but a functioning and well adjusted adult
if you're being honest and you're not an man child then it translates as
> "why aren't you dating a women and paying for everything for her? How dare you spend your money on yourself. Do you know how selfish you're being? There's women out their who are having to WORK when they could be sat at home with you paying for everything!"
Bullshit, it translates to
>hey user, are you a big pussy faggot that's scared of bants?
And his response is
>y-yes
There are times when it seems many people are against you, even if you are in the right, which you are. It is difficult. You must persevere. This will build a strength within you that will create great power to be used later. Do not try to appease them. Do not try to figure out the "reason" for their behavior, for it does not fit your logic, nor should it. Stay true to your purpose in life, and that, and only that will influence these lower people (in time, if ever) to be under your control. You are making great progress in the good. Keep going. These negative people are depraved on the inside and see your success and power and they want to steal some of for themselves. They are trying to bring you down because you are successful personally and professionally. If they are women, they are deeply angry that they cannot have you, which would allow them to fulfill their natural role as devoted slaves and fully sexually available to you. The disharmony in society cause by ((feminism)) may be the cause, but that is immaterial to your personal journey. Your job here is to grow strong by resisting they baying negativity. You will be a great warrior.
roasties pulling mad grapes and then using their stretched out rotten holes that won't go to you as some sort of justification because they already placed their entire value in stretched out torn use less wet holes
Actually MGTOW is for ALL types of men(Alpha, beta, cuck, incel). But the reasons why they go MGTOW are diffrent. Perhaps root is the same, society and law is fucked up today.
There are men who are going their own way.
And then there are men who actually identify as "MGTOW"... and all they do is talk about women. Women this. Women that. Women here. Women there. To me that does not sound like they are going their own way. It sounds more like they are bitter because they got sent their own way.
They just want you back on the plantation. Laugh and ignore.
Well you probably look in wrong way, not all MGTOW just blame women.
MGTOW youtubers like TFM or RGE are stating women are the same but society and law is fucked up, women just do the same thing what most of humans will do, abuse shit out of it for benefits.
Why do you care what they do? They can be bitter about women if they want that’s the freedom going your own way gives, we do what we fucking want.
You can’t say with a straight face not getting married is a Jewish creation.
Over half of the marriages end in divorce these days. A huge part of them also has chelating involved.
And when it comes to marriage, men are the ones who have everything to lose. So even the chaddest of chads can still lose half their life because of some stupid bitch.
Just look at how famous men have been fucked by divorce over and over again, to the point some actors these days are taking some proto-MGTOW stands. For example:
people.com
And if you think you're chadder than the guy who played the fucking superman, than you're absolutely fucking delusional
Omg that is so cute
MGTOW is more of a philosophy than an assertion. This can translate into a lifestyle so be it, but MRA’s tend to be the ones who blame and try to hold women accountable. MGTOW is more about not giving them the power to be responsible.
MGTOW is the same as a fat women going full "FemiNazi Man Hater" and then acting like this is the reason nobody wants to BANG them
They are no MGTOW, they are incels
>not all MGTOW just blame women.
Obviously this is true, but dude, don’t give them anything. Don’t NAMALT because they already know this is the case. They are just trying to slander MGTOW plain and simple. Just puff your chest out and tell them so the fuck what?
Working up the MGTOW levels
>MGTOW is more about not giving them the power to be responsible.
Blaming women is like blaming my cat because it wants to eat only steak strips. How could this happen?!?
This is very good advice. Based Ireland.
>but for men who can get decent women it's stupid
SAGED you fuck
day of the rope won't be gentle with degenerates like you
Is MGTOW transhumanist abstinence or abstinence in protest of feminism?
I love MGTOW threads. Virtually all anti-MGTOW responses are either shaming tactics, conspiracy nonsense, or white nationalists pleading white men to have white babies so they can be thrown into the meat grinder. No genuine argument against the philosophy, which is a strong indicator MGTOWs are right.
It's cute you think there will be a day of the rope. You'll be lucky the US doesn't turn into Brazil because American men refuse to do what is needed (disempowering women).
Reported, it's against Jow Forums rules to announce a SAGE. Mods even redesigned reporting
>leaf
>can't link rules
Also note all the "white nationalists" have a meme flag 90% of the time.
Oh yeah, but he started it.
Well anti MGTOW dont understand MGTOW. Some even think MGTOW=Incel and thats bullshit.
But also the same guys who shit on MGTOW just to shit on it, if you except they are smart enought to give you a better alternative then u will be disapointed because they dont have any alternative.
They are indoctrinated by people who dont want men going MGTOW because it will hurt their buisnesses.
All what these MGTOW haters need to is to open eyes and look around. Its easy to find information about men fucked on divorce hard, its easy to find statistics. I had heard about guy who hanged himself without chair, he just leaned forward and let the suffocate do its job(and hanging yourself in that way means you really give up in life), because he was fucked by his ex and law so hard.
Yeah some MGTOW were former incels, but thats nothing wrong because now they are not incels and they wont do killing sprees. Literally MGTOW philosophy managed to stop some incel killing sprees before even they happened.
For you MGTOW-haters up there is no such thing as a woman that loves men. Look up the studies.
>white nationalists pleading white men to have white babies
by "pleading" you mean again "shaming". Their civilizational Ponzi scheme is falling apart. So they try a little of what keeps them in check - shame.
MGTOW being right is a poor consolation. I wish I was wrong.
OK how many of you are really incels? Be fucking honest. I used to think I was MGTOW because I was incel, then I worked on myself a little bit and started getting laid, getting girlfriends. Now I am not MGTOW and now I know I never was MGTOW.
You were and still are a confused simp.
sage and hide paid demoralization and degeneration.
HUR DUR ah gots hi energy dikk to redpill quties. It's easy - let me show you.
Women are in a bad way right now, but it's the responsibility of men to show them where they've gone wrong and help them put the pieces of their shattered lives back together. Dedicating your life to being a permavirgin solves absolutely nothing other than the removal of your genetics from the collective human genepool.
No you went MGTOW because you are ugly, have no personality, and no woman wanted to be around you. Just like 99% of all other MGTOW fags.
At least 80% of men can't attract quality women due to hypergamy being unbridled in modern society.
MGTOW is a direct answer to hypergamy along with anti-male culture and laws that even affect the alphas.
Trying to fix women wont work anything to as long as we wont stop woman empowering in society and law.
The majority of MGTOWs are men who were never realistically getting in a relationship in the first place.
Yup look what they did to Brendan Frasier
He could have used some MGTOW instead of having a woman destroy his life
My mom's boyfriend sent me MGTOW videos guys what do I say
Very wrong, the vast majority of MGTOWs have been in and out of relationships all their life and know exactly how terrible they are these days.
MGTOW comes from experience with the modern female beast.
>No you went MGTOW because you are ugly, have no personality, and no woman wanted to be around you. Just like 99% of all other MGTOW fags.
Let’s humour this for a second. Suppose this is true and no women want to be around MGTOW, you wouldn’t have a problem with men going there own way right?
>and help them put the pieces of their shattered lives back together
Guess what happens when you "help them put the pieces of their shattered lives back together"?
a) she will be forever grateful, enlightened and you will live a blessed family life
b) the moment your utility expires her "shattered" self will call her pimp (State) to sort you out.
This image gives me hope.
>were never realistically getting in a relationship in the first place.
So what’s wrong with them going there own way then?
you CANT be mgtow and incel at the same time - if you call yourself mgtow it means you can get sex if you want but choose not to. If you're an incel then you're just an incel and nothing more
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wow you closet furfags need to kill yourself, but not before posting more
I'm ugly, have a wife, and can confidently state that my life is comparable better to a chad's. At the end of the day, I feel confident in the way I lead my life, it's productive and wholesome. Men that form an identity out of hate or insecurity are not men yet. I support their choice of going their own way if it's to work on themselves, but no man can live their entire life this way happily, treating every woman like an object. I can guarantee that none of you would enjoy an entire life without women. Unless you're a very broken man. Then I recommend suicide.
Thanks for posting!
Meanwhile in reality Jews make shitloads of money off the marriage industry, and especially the divorce industry.
I can't enjoy life with an unattractive woman so I can't relate to you at all.
what if one realizes, that he's genes are inferior?
if more people did this, the world would be a much better place
also a permavirgin will not go MGTOW, cause he would (and even if he did) love to get some pussy.
send them back
A lot of people aren't worthy of breeding. But, lots of unworthy people breed anyway. We're kinda fucked long term. Don't try to debate this you're wrong. Would be nice if the unworthy didn't breed. It would work out for us. But unfortunately it's mostly niggers who are spreading seeds. So we should fight fire with fire and make white babies.
MGTOW is not about avoiding all women. It means you only interact with women if they actually contribute to your life.
Women are biological parasites, so their capability of actually contributing is almost nil.
I still have casual sex for example, even though I'm MGTOW, because it seems that's the only thing modern women are good for.
>So we should fight fire with fire and make white babies.
So what does that have to do with getting married?
Not even close dipstick...
Go ask your mom again.
Don’t be a manchild
Correct.
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Pay attention you have much to learn.... little child.
Wanna know how I know you're a faggot shill? The memeflag
This. I consider myself mgtow in a way, even though I have what I consider a wife of sorts (not legally married.) I just keep my real wealth accumulation offshore, no problems.
The problem is that these people try to recruit otherwise perfectly capable men to their side with rhetoric like
what I don't understand is how anyone can unironically be satisfied with a "waifu" until we can bring them into reality as lifelike androids that can actually substitute for women
Retarded. You sound like a weak little man who clings to his worthless life, and tries to brag about it online in order to convince yourself that your average mediocre life is a depressing dead end
>Then I recommend suicide
Anyone who doesn't get married is broken, and should commit suicide. Wow, are you a Jew, a Woman, or both?
>capable men
So what do you consider genes that are “capable”?
The direct opposite of a MGTOW
>people unironically saying “incel” on Jow Forums
I want reddit and mainstream media shills to leave
That has nothing to do with genetics.
Better chance of babies growing up properly. Sure we could just go fuck white girls endlessly. But then you have babies growing up without the father around. Consider this. If the baby grows up without the father around, then they will be socially weak in the future. This is a saving grace. Most nigger babies don't know their father. So they will end up degenerate, in jail, in poverty etc. I think this is good for the long term race war
true this
ones desire to reproduce has nothing to do with capability. look at all these ugly and dumb people wanting (and many having kids) to reproduce ?
how do you explain that? are they truly capable or just blind to their own flaws?
There is actually such a huge surplus of trad girls that any idiot can marry one if they want
popculture.com
Why do you shills spend all day on Jow Forums claiming blacks aren’t human, how can anyone think whites and blacks are the same. But then as soon as you get asked this question it’s...well what about muh black single mums! You can have kids with a woman provide for the kids financially and see the kids multiple times a week and not marry or even live with her. That’s not the same as a single parent household with no Dad around whatsoever. Anyone with an iq over 100 and a shred of honesty knows this.
I believe the argument is that black people have an average iq of ~80 and tend to achieve absolutely nothing when left alone.
As for not having a father around there's a big difference between a woman divorce raping a white guy and not letting him see his children and a nigger running a mile when he hears she's pregnant.
Are you calling me a shill? I spend like 15 minutes on Jow Forums every couple days or something. Blacks are human I think. Doesn't change the fact that most of them are scum. Yea you can do what you say and see the kids a couple times a week and still be a good role model. But how often does that happen?
no - its experience with women
This makes no sense. MGTOWs are men who have experienced women. Alpha men are most likely to experience psycho high maintenance women.
Its the betas who worship the ground women walk on in a desperate bid to get ANY attention from women.