Americans, explain why any of these things are bad
Americans, explain why any of these things are bad
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who gonna pay nigga
Debnts
get a job faggot
Same people who pay for the police and fire deparments
this, you are gonna end up like us
so you will just allocate the resources differently? or everyone will pay significantly more
if second, no thanks
I can't tell if people take her srsly, and that alone makes me scared
Nobody will bail then out though.
Nah tha nigga, that's fo sho
Explain how any of this is feasible.
Explain how you're going to have high wage jobs with open borders.
It's okay, I don't understand economics either.
Cans I have free qt gf?
If you want free housing, food, healthcare, and education provided by the government, I already know a place.
It's called prison.
Exactly this, between income tax, state tax, property tax and all the other taxes damn near 50% of my wages go to taxes. i'm tired of all the taxes and don't want to pay anymore.
why do you think americans also have private security and volunteer fire departments?
>Explain how you're going to have high wage jobs with open borders.
Friendly reminder that socialists were always against open borders for that exact reason.
Sure
Do not respond to memeflags
Regardless of the thread content
If they want to make a garbage slide thread like this, force them to tell us where they're from
>open borders
You better remove every door and window in your home and make all your passwords 1234 or you are a hypocrite.
Centralized government is a spook
>take the guns
>take the money
>take the social cohesion
I'd like to see her fucking try.
Socialism is possible in a white/asian homogeneous society where the country puts itself first.
If we didn't let hordes of mexicans in, wages would be higher, and less useless garbage living off the state.
Taking guns is unforgivable, even if you believe in the rest of it (which is retarded but still).
>free stuff
Who's going to pay for it?
>impeach Trump
He has committed no crime and is our savior against corrupt corporate globalists.
>take the guns
So we can't defend ourselves against criminals and a tyrannical government?
>open borders, get rid of ICE
This would mean nations effectively do not exist. It would mean the end of national sovereignty, and our nation would be flooded with low-IQ dependents and criminals. It's a capitalist's wet dream, yet you LARP as a commie.
>It's called prison.
Execpt prisons are becoming private in the US lmao
right wing logic
>marxists are liberals and sjws they want everything for free
wrong pic
The gov can print more money dumbass
i see you like max stirner
This is you chance, your only chance to say why they are not. Im giving it to you, dont waste it.
Why? So instead of providing argument you could mock the country the person is from?
Again, it is possible to have a socialist government, but that government must be nationalistic and defend its people.
Hordes and hordes of mexicans from the border who will simply use welfare, commit crime, and use drugs will just suck the life out of a country.
You want a national health service? You want removal of for-profit prisons? Those things are all possible, but you have to close the border.
>Socialist Democrats: Vote for us and we will give you (((Free)))* stuff, open the countries borders to hordes of 3rd worlders, dismantle law enforcement, remove your Constitutional right to own guns, and grow the size and dependency on government to the extreme!!!
* - Paid for by sky high taxes
This. Demanding geographic flags is against the spirit of anonymous discussion
Post the real one
that's the people.
>guaranteed high-wage
bad because then companies cannot make profits.
without a profit a company cannot grow.
without growth they cannot hire more people or get more goods/services available to the people.
in short, guaranteed high-wage will starve and infect people.
>open borders
doesn't matter if nobody wants in your nation.
but if you have desirable things then having open borders invites pillaging from tribal gangs.
>free health care
cannot be free.
if made free then there will be no advancement in healthcare tech because nobody will make an effort without the potential for a profit.
welcome to reality, kid.
>free college
yeah... because standard levels of education are just so great already that we need to have the state run higher education.
that's like asking people to study twitter and instagram for 4 years so they can get a degree in sociology.
>impeach
literally does nothing.
slick willy is the example.
>take the guns
because gang bangers won't become tribal militias?
when they know that only the cops can shoot them?
because they don't shoot at cops now?
>free housing
that's called "section 8" and it's literally why blacks are so fucking disruptive in nice places.
it's called "envy".
>no ice
see my open borders statement.
liberals defend private property and they want free things like welfare rather than abolishing capitalism and seizing the means of production and giving it to the workers
>Guaranteed High-Wage JOBS!!
Impossible without rampant inflation
>Open Borders!
So, are we asking Putin to send 10 million Russians to Mexico on vacation so they can then run north through our non-border and then - gasp - influence our election?
>Hee Haw!
Underrated tv show. I'll give you this one.
>Free College!
There is no such thing as "free" anything. If it is free to you, then someone else is paying. Who is that someone else, and how long do you expect them to pay for you?
>Impeach Trump!
For articles of impeachment you need a crime: what is the crime for which you have even a shred of evidence?
>Take the Guns
Shall Not Be Infringed
>Free Housing
See "Free" College
>Free College
Taxpayer funded isn't free, moron.
>Impeach Trump
He's done nothing to warrant impeachment.
>Open borders
self-explanatory
>Free housing
see my remark on """free""" education
>Take the guns
Gun control does not work. Furthermore, studies have demonstrated that defensive gun use outnumbers criminal gun use. Therefore civil disarmament will inevitably lead to more crime.
>the government is incompetent and corrupt
>the government should be in charge of allocating and providing everything from housing to healthcare
Free at point of use nigger, don't argue semantics
Citation needed. I've never seen a liberal whos not a commie. You yourself cannot do without the commie flag on your post at all times.
Didn't they abolish slavery somewhere in the 60's?
You need to store those former slaves somewhere.
>Didn't they abolish slavery somewhere in the 60's?
Unless you are in prison lmao
en.wikipedia.org
I won't work or give them shit. I will get right in line for gib me dats. I wonder who's gonna pay for everything?
>open borders
Terrible idea
>free healthcare
It's never free and the quality would plummet overnight
>free college
Not free and the job market is already flooded with Bachelors degrees
>take the guns
Unconstitutional
>free housing
Not feasible
you see liberals are fucking idiots who think by regulating capitalism everything is going to work so well
Wipipo
>high-wage jobs
>free shit
>open borders
You can only pick one.
also iam with the workers owning guns
>It's never free and the quality would plummet overnight
Nah
But your neurotic buddies are not sweetie
>Guaranteed high wage jobs
>Free healthcare
>Free college
So much for those high wage jobs!
Which causes inflation and devaluation of the Dollar dumbass.
what do you mean by this ?
Countries with """free""" health care that works well and is of high quality do not have as large or (((diverse))) a population as the US. Not to mention a large portion of that relatively small homogeneous society are all paying into it.
Progressive income tax that targets the $1,000,000+ earners bloc, repeal Bush and Trump tax cuts on billionaires, re institute the estate tax, lease foreign military bases to their host countries (China makes billions by doing this), and establish an oversight commission to audit the DoDs contracting from Lockheed/Raytheon/etc. to try and quarantine the out of control spending
All of these programs are extremely cheap, either way. Some source quoted that medicare for all would save the American taxpayer $500 Billion over the course of a decade.
if you have more products and less money you need to print money
When I grew up, my grandfather would always tell me how beautiful this country is. He would tell me that if you worked hard, you could achieve anything you wanted. He always told me to strive to be something he could look back on and say, "that's my grandson". He did his own maintenance on his pool and would tell me stories about immigration and government hand outs.
He would always tell me: "You see this? If you invite bugs into the pool, they don't take a dip and leave, they multiply and after a while, they start to change the colors of the water and ruin the filter." He always tried to teach me that anything not earned isn't worth having and never will be appreciated.
Socialism is a disease. It's nothing but pandering to the lazy and the uneducated. No one is forcing you to work those $8/hr jobs with no benefits, no one is forcing you to depend on welfare and hand outs. If you're broke, tired and struggling, fucking do something about it. I lived on ramens and slept on a stranger's floor for a year but I put in work. Every single day, I didn't bitch, I didn't ask for handouts, I worked to get to where I am today.
I can't stand this bullshit socialism pandering today. Do you know who would have to pay for socialism? People like me. People that pay their taxes and worked for everything they have.
Venezuela.
Bullshit. That is just scare mongering by the health insurance industry and you buy it
>wont somebody please think of the corporations?!
what about it. Are the right wing press back to calling Venezuela socialist again?
communism doesn't work, its been tried and fails every time
its not going to magically start working just because you think you're better than every other communist that came before you
>There is ONE American alone worth 120 Billion $
I'm sure we could find a way user
From a UK perspective
>guaranteed high-wage jobs
Don't just come out of thin air
>open borders
Bad idea since it limits state sovereignty and lessens state control over population and immigration control
>free health-care
At the point of use sure, shame it would utterly bankrupt a country the size of the US
>free college
Nice idea, I get why the Germans do it, but since its a voluntary action which does little to contribute to anything but a student's own future why should it be free?
>free housing
Who pays for them to be built?
I live in Africa but am lucky enough to have a European passport, if America opens it's borders there will be hundreds of millions of people coming there to leech of the system in no time and the whole system will collapse. People in Africa are desperate and will do kust about anything to get out of tier shitty situation
Also, some idiot who claims to be from the Bronx when in fact she came from a nice neighborhood, isn't going to fix anything. She's never worked hard a day in her life. Just like Bernie No refunds Sanders. That guy never had a job until he was 40 and what's he doing now? Pedaling books onto people and enjoying his summer homes that you idiots bought him.
>No refunds by the way
Nigger I work for large hospital organization and actually understand how billing and claims are done and understand all the costs involved in providing healthcare.
>Americans are always in our face eitht their politics and views
>Hey Americans what do you think about _________
t. Memeflag
41 fags took the bait
The biggest conservative bullshit of all is probably the same people who want to ban abortions think universal health care is a bad thing...yes, lets force poor people to have a bunch of kids and then not give them the ability to care for them, that makes a ton of sense....ben shapiro is a self-righteous brainlet who only thinks he is smart because he only argues with high schoolers
All these things are going great for Venezuelans right now. The even nationalized oil production and stole the rigs from Exxon/Mobile and they're still starving.
>Debunked
Nigger, Venezuela is a fucking terrible country to be in. Quality of life is extremely poor and I think it's worth mentioning that death squads just aimlessly roam around killing whoever they want.
Why give money to the government for things you could've afforded if they didn't want so much?
Quality of all of that "Free stuff."
Look at Section 8 housing if you want to see the quality of government mandated homes.
High wages would be relative. Everyone might "make more" on paper, but it would shift the economy so we are all equally poor.
College used to be nearly "free", with students paying only a small percentage of the overall costs. The rest was paid via taxes. I am for this, to an extent. Like in the UK you can get 4 years for "free", then any more years of study are on you. Then you pay it back later on once you are working and pay taxes. (So it's never "Free.)
Gun control would be about as effective as the war on drugs.
Healthcare is a bit fucked, but I don't know how to change it to work. Obamacare was shit and charged poor people a penalty for not having insurance. Canada and UK models are shit.
Immigration enforcement is needed in every country. And every country does it, yet the US is always put on blast for not letting tens of thousands of illegals in.
Use the proper channels or don't cry when you're arrested. And stop bringing your children with you when you break out federal laws, then cry about how you were separated from them. Citizens here are separated from their children when we commit a felony, so it isn't mistreatment.
>inb4 r*ddit spacing
easier to format faggots
Weak b8.
alright i think chavez is a guy who did not abolish private property
They can work, but not with open borders, and there's nothing wrong with owning guns.
Just print more money like venezuela has done. They've been doing bigly lately.
>t. Joe Arpaio
Interestingly enough, U.S. prisons are unique among prisons in developed countries in that they've been called out for not providing those things.
Commies get the wood chipper too.
>Memezuela
ebin meme you 15 year old
>muh communism
THROW ON THAT WOOD CHIPPER ENGINEER!
>death squads just aimlessly roam around killing whoever they want
Source?
oh look, its another person who thinks wanting universal health care means your a communist....fucking bluepilled brainlet who is probably 15 and just comes to Jow Forums because he likes to be an edgy troll
I just think that there should be zero government funding for abortion and abortion docs should be allowed to tell a prospective patient "I'll do your abortion that you cannot pay for, but I'm tying your tubes too."
and when you tax him and he stops producing at a fast rate and his earning stagnate who you are gonna steal money from next? and who is benefiting from that exactly? junkies and knocked up mothers that didn't use a condom?
Why do Americans make the healthcare thing a political point. Can Americans not afford basic health insurance?
>death squads just aimlessly roam around killing whoever they want
The death squads are fascist opposition to the Maduro government, not party loyalists trying to establish hegemony. They are paid for by the American oil lobby
It's more that anytime there's a bait thread (like this one) there's almost always a memeflag OP. Using a memeflag usually tells us you want to obscure your location, and the only reason you'd want to do that is if you're a disgusting heeb kike in Zionland™ since that would support our thesis that Jews are trying the hardest to destabilize the west for their own profit.
TL;DR you're a jew and we don't like you
brainlet
communism is a failed ideology
Nigger, I'm opposed to wealth distribution in general. Progressives can get chipped too.
Read up on Modern Monetary Theory
Congress just passed $700 Million in military spending. No one asked "how are they gonna pay", they just did it. That's how money works.
>Can Americans not afford basic health insurance?
They buy each other gift cards
>I just want everyone to have free shit, how am I the bad guy?!
Kys commie scum.
I saw you faggots get cucked by the police a few days ago. Hopefully we start hanging you fuckers by trees one day.
The government got involved with health care and the number of "administrators" who had to be hired to keep up with the regulations skyrocked, and somebody has to pay for that shit.