Did the holocaust actually happen or is it a lie?
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Did the holocaust actually happen or is it a lie?
Good arguments, evidence, facts, sauce, points, explanation marks ect...
No gas the Kike's or jokey stuff. Only good points x
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Yes
look through the archives you fucking faggot it literally get's proven as a hoax every day
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Prove it
Evidence and credentials my pal
Eyewitness testimony presented at the Nuremberg trials laid the foundation for much of what we know about the Holocaust including details of the Auschwitz death machinery, atrocities committed by the Einsatzgruppen (mobile killing units), the destruction of the Warsaw ghetto, and the original statistical estimate of six million murdered Jews.
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It's a bill by the company Degesch for Zyklon B. By law it was demanded that harmful gas like Zyklon B had a warning substance added, a distinctive smell, so that a leak in one of the containers wouldn't kill those handling it.
Now, this bill has a last line, underlined, that reads:
** Vorsicht, ohne Warnstoff! *
Which translates to: "Caution! No warning substance!" They take the warning subtance out so the harmful chemicals are more powerful.
It is the most documented historical event in history and simultaneously the least documented event in history. Not a single person in the world tracked the jewish population as it dropped during the holocaust. Every demographic study on the time period shows no holocaust. The telegraphed counter-argument is that these studies were "lazy" and use projected data. Not a single person in the world was "not lazy". Nobody tracked the population of a group which was apparently undergoing a genocide and which was such an affront to man and god that it caused a global war. It was a tragedy that simultaneously everybody and nobody cared about.
Soooooo, it happened?
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does it matter?
it's like flat earth
you idiots need to prove it YOURSELVES
only then will you know
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>obvious kike
>obvious faggot
yes it happened, all holocaust denial material is bullshit taken out of context
no proof it did happen. only testimonies from jews.
It's the wrong question, about equivalent to an atheist or deist asking, "did the Son of God, who died for our sins historically exist?" A better question, that doesn't use ersatz-religious/propaganda terms is, "did the Nazis gas Jews and if so, how many?"
Its a lie. You dont kill people with bullets. You kill them with starvation. Most jews that died died of hunger and hunger related illness.
> is it a lie?
Jew "researchers and schoolars" tried to upgrade the body count to 21 millions around 2000/2010.
There wasn't even 15 millions jews in the world before WWII.
There wasn't even 6 millions Jews in the territories under Hitler's control either, especially when you count how many of them emigrated when things started to go sours, and all those who claimed to have escaped the camps - estimated at around 1 millions by Israel itself, so you need at least 7 millions jews on Nazi-controlled zones, even if the Nazi had captured 100% of them.
Did a lot of jews dies ? Yes.
Did 6 millions of them dies ? Fuck no. It's literally impossible because not enough jews were there in the first place.
No.
It did and it will happen again.
Proof and ketchup
I wish it were
The real question is, who cares? Im positive there are so many (((people))) asking if it was real just so it remains a relevent topic
Just stop
>Jews said it happened
>Trial were evidence was not a factor
>Trial by the enemy of the Third Reich
>Proof
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>Is the holocaust real?
If it was, it must have been accidental according to Uncle Bibi.
Daily reminder that the US supreme court of that time called the Nuremberg Trial "an insult to the concept of trial".
Daily reminder that the Nuremberg Trial blamed stuff like the Katyn massacre on Nazi, even tho allies admitted they knew it was done by commies.
I think it's real. Are the numbers correct? I would say probably not, but whether they are or aren't, who really cares anyways? There's droves of other mass killings and genocides throughout history, some concurrent or later than this one, that get no mention at all from the academia, the media etc.
And what's with all the namefags on Jow Forums over the past week or so?
52 muffles at Auschwitz
38 is the most that we’re online simultaneously
6 were taken out of action
Leaving 46 left.
Aushwitz was active for 3 years
Modern day cremation takes 2-2.5 hours to burn a body. Let’s say it takes 3 hours to burn 2 bodies at once. Assuming they some how made coke-fire based furnace more efficient than modern day electric and gas furnaces. Also assuming the bodies were 100lbs each because of starvation.
Here are the calculations without taking into account fire block furnace limit which is 3,000 bodies per a furnace. Not taking into account the time to gas and move the bodies. Also assuming this was going on constantly nonstop.
46 x 2 = 92 jews for every 3 hours
8 x 82 = 736 jews a day
736x 365 x 3 years = 805,920 jews
Doesn’t add up to the official numbers and no way adds up to the original 4 million
With only using 38 furnaces is would be 665,760 jews
If you believe in time travel....then yes it is real
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>mwf some people actually think Jow Forums is so stupid they can blatantly lie like that and nobody will call them on it.
We actually know the maximum cremation capacity of the Auschwitz-Birkenau crematoria from Nazi documentation. Yet the number is mostly irrelevant because they also cremated bodies outside in pits. Of course, one should be asking why would they build a "labor camp" with the capacity to cremate its entire population in a few days.
8 x 92*
Were jews neets fags gypsies and other dissidants rounded up and placed in concentration camps?
Yes.
So were Japs italians and germans in the U.S.
Was there are concerted effort to kill all the jews?
No.
Did six million die?
No, several hundred thousand for sure, mostly due to disease and starvation brought on by allied bombing. This is easily proved by looking at census records.
At the start of WWII (begun by England btw) There were roughly 15.3 million jews world wide. After the war that number was 15.7 million, neat trick if 6 million died.
Fun fact! The allies killed more civilians (on purpose) than did the axis.
Also, the piece of information that started the biggest bout of cognative disonance I have ever felt.
In 17 first world countries, denying or even claiming to want to investigate the claims of the holocaust, even if just to prove them, will land you in jail.
Need more?
The burden of proof is on you.
>Did six million die?
>No, several hundred thousand for sure, mostly due to disease and starvation brought on by allied bombing
Basically this
>In 17 first world countries, denying or even claiming to want to investigate the claims of the holocaust, even if just to prove them, will land you in jail.
>Need more?
exactly...History doesn't need lawyers and judges to defend itself. And when it does, you know something's fishy.
Source?
Ah, not historical truth just your ass.
>The burden of proof is on you.
So that you can freely make bullshit claims with no consequence? Tell me, how many strategic bombing runs did the allies make on nazi-occupied Poland?
Your population figures are wrong.
All demographic surveys show a 5.5 to 6 million drop in numbers. Where did you get your crazy figures?
Don’t tell me you fell for the World Almanac lie?
The one that’s cites the 1948 World Almanac (a sportsman trivia book) which clearly says it is using 1939 figures as it has no up to date data?
>So that you can freely make bullshit claims with no consequence?
So you believe in time travel then ?
Prove it...How does it work ? Show me proof.
Also, care to explain why you can be send to prison for questioning it ?
If that was true you would have some sources to back it up
Of course you don’t because it is bullshit
Show us your source for your highly unlikely claim about low numbers, and he allied bombing being a cause.
Name an historian who says this
Show us any study that claims this
I don't believe in time travel.
Sorry... Les goys sont peut-être con à manger du foin, mais y'a des limites...
>Also, care to explain why you can be send to prison for questioning it ?
In some countries, it is illegal to deny the crimes of communism. In others, it is illegal to deny any genocide. So I guess that means none of that stuff happened, right? Your argument is crap.
>Show us your source for your highly unlikely claim about low numbers, and he allied bombing being a cause.
>Name an historian who says this
>Show us any study that claims this
Explique moi ça, juif...
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Tu crois que je suis sortie de l'oeuf ?
The Holocaust is a lie.
Most prisoners of war died of illness, malnutrition, and starvation.
There were more Slavic, Christian, and Muslim prisoners than Jewish ones.
The numbers of total Jews that perished i went from a few thousand, to a few hundred thousand, to a few millions.
And none of it is confirmed
>In some countries, it is illegal to deny the crimes of communism. In others, it is illegal to deny any genocide.
The only one you can go to prison for is the one concerning jews...
You don’t need time travel - you just need historical facts
Your claims are bullshit and have no basis
>The only one you can go to prison for is the one concerning jews...
False
That's because Jew lice were extra tough, parasites of parasites have to be.
It's certainly the case in Germany...In my country, in many european countries.
As a matter of fact, my own government has ZERO problems denying the vendéen genocide.
We recently recgonized the Amrmenian genocide, but you CAN'T get sued or go to prison for denying it. Except for the ones concerning jews
How often do you think census are taken?
It was 1933 when it was at 15.3 million.
1948 was the next time census was taken, and it was 15.7 million.
And ALL census are relative estimates, even "official" ones. All you have is a picture with no source. May as well be shooped. At least the world Almanac actually took relevant information to make their census at the time it was relevant and not after the fact.
6 million jews did not die during WWII.
Fun fact about that 6 million number.
Its very important to the kikes (but you already knew that huh?)
Turns out the jews have been pushing that six million number for a long time, we have evidence of that prior to WWI.
But why?
Well, according to their prophecies their messiah will not return until 6 million jews have been slaughterd.
Lets think about that for a second shall we?
The jews want their messiah right?
So God would have to send him.
So they are literally trying to deceive God....GOD
Same goes for circumsion. Its so they can be more easily identifiable to God.
You know, the all powerful all knowing entity. They expect to trick God, and that if they dont slice their dick off then God wont know who they are.
Yep, very sane individuals the jews.
>Amrmenian
armenian
Here's something to consider. If you decided to kill all the media, all lawyers, bankers, and communists... you would be killing mostly Jews even though you hadn't set out to kill Jews.
>Your claims are bullshit and have no basis
Prove it then.
How's that associates degree coming?
Did the Rabi sell your foreskin for faceted or was it thrown to the childless females to fight over?
Real events don't need laws to protect against people questioning them.
In my country, the law makes no distinction between the denial of nazi and communist crimes.
And the longest genocide denial sentence ever was actually related to the Rwandan genocide IIRC.
>In my country, the law makes no distinction between the denial of nazi and communist crimes.
>And the longest genocide denial sentence ever was actually related to the Rwandan genocide IIRC.
Doesn't exist in my country..Nor in the UK, Germany, Sweden, Spain, Italy...etc...
On the other hand...that's very real
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Targeted extermination of Jews by the Nazi regime did happen.
But at a much smaller scale, probably within the
Considering all the Holocaust really was, was locking all the kikes up into camps, the jewish world powers at the time must have been pretty fucking PISSED that it happened. Makes me feel good to know they were so asstangled over finally being called out and locked up that they turned the 'hoax into what it is today.
Soviets made it up to justify their losses. Then spread it thru their agents in the west.
>Doesn't exist in my country..Nor in the UK, Germany, Sweden, Spain, Italy...etc...
So? You've said that you can only go to jail for denying the holocaust. This statement is false. Do you acknowledge that it's false?
>But at a much smaller scale, probably within the
>womman
And the media wonders why we dont trust them.
I really think the numbers are padded a bunch, but I REALLY hope it is (was) real! fucking jew dogs should all die.
>Did the holocaust actually happen or is it a lie?
No it didn't happen.
>So? You've said that you can only go to jail for denying the holocaust. This statement is false. Do you acknowledge that it's false?
Partially false maybe ? I don't give a shit how the law works in your country. All i know is that you can't talk freely about the J question in my country, Nor in Germany or Uk etc.. If i'd try, i'd get sued... And eventually get sent to prison.
I can deny the Armenian holocaust or any holocaust for that matter...all i want. I'll never get in trouble for it.
Also, As far as the "6 million jews" figure is concerned, the burden of proof is still on your side.
You're a faggot and anyone who disagrees with me is a JDIF shill.
The slave labor camps have ample evidence. The mass extermination camps do not have much evidence of existing and to even ask questions like "Why didn't the Germans just starve the already rounded up prisoners? That would be a lot cheaper than using poison gas," gets you serious jail time in most countries in Europe.
(((They))) don't want you do discover that the Nazis were a rebellion against Jewish International Banking, meaning that Jews were the enemy of Germany and to this day are masters of Central Banking all over the world. (((They))) are not truly concerned about anyone figuring out how many people the Nazi's killed and under what methods, during the war. Jews run Central Bank all over the world and the Official Holocaust Narrative protects them from questions and criticism.
TLDR: All the money that all of us have ever used is controlled by Jewish Owned Central Banks and the Nazi's freed themselves from this system in 1933 by establishing the Reich's Bank and forming a labor based economy.
HERE YOU GO...
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So? If we take your "argument" seriously then...
>I can deny the Armenian holocaust
Not in Greece, for example. Or Slovakia. So I guess, logically, the Armenian genocide never happened? Or maybe it simultaneously happened or not depending on which country you live in? Or maybe your "argument" is completely retarded?
Be careful bong. Its so real that ur country has law against negation over it
>call them on it
>provide data showing that there effectively wasn't enough jews in Nazi controlled territories to make for 6 millions victims, 1 millions escaped, and the big pack of those who emigrated and/or were never arrested (since rounding up jews was rarer outside of Germany and Free France).
Thanks for those detailed census, saved them.
Not in the UK.
However they will allow extradition of someone who did break that "law" in one of the 17 countries and then went to the UK.
Ffs man...
You know I am not Jewish and not French, and this is an English language board
And one of your claims is supported by the facts
>(since rounding up jews was rarer outside of Germany and Free France).
See, this is EXACTLY what I was talking about. This claim is BULLSHIT. Do you really think you'll get away with this because Jow Forums is filled with gullible morons?
So you are a cuck on vacation?
Do you at least get paid for your ignorant shilling?
Wrong
Show us this 1948 census that has those figures
Pro tip you can’t because you are bullshitting
>Not in Greece, for example. Or Slovakia. So I guess, logically, the Armenian genocide never happened?
Don't put words in my mouth if you want to be taken seriously...I never insinuated anything of that nature. What i'm saying is that anything that touches jews (holocaust or not)...You can be sued for it. And in some cases, sent to jail;
Just criticizing someone who happens to be jewish can get your ass sued.
You really don't expect me to believe the 6million figure do you ?
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You think i'm that naive ?
That aside, where do you think you are ? Reddit ? Do you think we easily forget things like this ?
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Or this ?
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Stop playing the eternal innocent, victim card..We know who's pushing for wars against Iran, Syria...
The so called "holocaust" was a blessing in disguise. That's how you guys had Israel. All based on a lie that you're propaganding with bought politicians, Hollywood (and their countless ww2 films)...We can see through the lies. We see the one sided version of history you guys have been pushing since the end of ww2...
>You know I am not Jewish and not French, and this is an English language board
Tu es enjuivé. Aucune différence à mes yeux.
>Don't put words in my mouth if you want to be taken seriously...I never insinuated anything of that nature
ORLY?
>exactly...History doesn't need lawyers and judges to defend itself. And when it does, you know something's fishy.
Zyklon B was used as a delousing agent. It was mixed in with water in shallow indoor pools were detainees' clothes and other belongings were soaked.
Yep.
You say all this but you also haven't provided a source of your scans my dude. Please provide citation in APA format thank you.
you are citing the 1948 world almanac - they print in i that the figures are not current.
see pic related
deniers cut off the bit underlined in red
because thy know it is a lie.
you think the world Almanac had people on the ground counting heads in Europe in 1948?
you are delusional.
Im not gonna google for you, but there are even census from jewish commites that support it.
Newsflash!
Even a shit ton of jews deny the holocaust.
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