If you hunt or fish regularly read this thread to have your views challenged and changed
Hunting and fishing in the modern day only harms nature and the animals within it.
Hunters and Fishers will only ever kill the best animals that pertain to what their hunting for, this aspect alone hurts nature far beyond anything imaginable. For instance if you’ve ever watched wolves hunting in the wild you’ll always notice they go after the weakest and dumbest of their prey. Why? Because they’re the easiest for them to kill. Through the millennia they’ve become apex predators by killing only the weakest and dumbest while the animals they hunt have only become stronger and smarter due to the fact that no weak and dumb animals mate since they’ve been effectively taken out of the gene pool.
Humans however have turned to calling killing the alpha animal as “sport” when the very definition of sport requires skills and physical exertion. Meanwhile hunters can go wherever there is garunteed game and kill them with no skill at all
>inb4 lining an animal up in your scope is hard It’s not and if you claim it is you’re weaker and dumber than the animal you hunt
Now if you are to claim that hunting helps “reduce” animal population to safe numbers then you should be more than willing to reintroduce the predatory animals that keep the prey animals population at a manigable size >inb4 this is incredibly difficult
It’s not and it’s extremly beneficial as it doesn’t require any additional cost after the initial buy
Now some user may say >but I love the taste of venison If this is true then you’d realize it’s far more sensible to buy it rather than go into the wild and kill a deer, gut it, bag it, and Harvest the meat.
>inb4 it’s too expensive It’s simple supply and demand, if more people wanted to eat venison then the market would work to supply more
Many hunters continue to hunt because they claim to “love” nature. However when you love something destroying it does not come into the equation. Love would imply you enjoy it for what it is. Not for the pleasure you get from taking from it.
If you love the thrill of the hunt, then I would suggest killing off invasive species. That not only are harmful to the nature you claim to love but but beneficial to you the “nature lover”
This ideology is incredibly self destructive because the knowledge of extinction flies out the window when you think of renewability. And it’s not just animals, it’s plants as well.
As humans we should have more sense than the animals we have dominion over. We should realize we’re smarter and far more capabale than any other animal on earth. We should realize that we have a far greater effect on the world we live in. Animals are at our mercy and we need to realize this. We make animals go extinct without even trying and we must make a conscious effort to preserve what we have. We must first do this by reducing Asia’s population from 1 billion to 1,000,000 as they’ve been shown to have the least respect for nature out of any group of people. Next would be Africa and we should work to take away their weapons as they’ve only used these to drive many animals to extinction Africa should have their population reduced to 500,000. This would ensure the animals in that regions survival.
Once this is accomplished you move to South America and reduce their population immensely and then life on earth will be much better off
Reintroducing wolves in urbanized areas is an awful idea and you should probably kill yourself.
Wyatt Allen
Another big step we as Jow Forumsocks can take is the non use of plastics. Many anons will tell you they’re harmful to us as humans and even more so to animals. For instance did you know there is a twice the size of Texas in some places 9 ft deep that’s ALL TRASH. And predominantly plastic trash. Plastic does not decompose at any logical rate. If you care for this earths wel being you will either A.stop supporting and consuming the plastic menace Or B.recycle every thing you come across
Wolves do not mess with humans as humans are the apex, if you get killed by a wolf you are literally seen as a lesser animal and prey. Your genetics deserve to die off
You didn't challenge shit though. You have no argument. I have never hunted in my life, but I've been a gun owner for the last 10 years. I'll probably take up hunting someday, if only to spite the faggots like you. And also for free meat.
Angel Richardson
Urbanized areas are overwhelmingly non white, I fail to see a problem.
Lincoln Williams
>no argument Seems about right from someone who got there feelings hurt by facts
Interesting, but I really don't care as road kill and over population are bigger problems.
Anthony Peterson
>free meat >buy gun >buy bullets >buy hunting liscence >buy tools to skin and harvest the animals meat >lmao 100% free
Great argument, kill off all the animals like a subhuman I wouldn’t expect anything less from someone giving a knee jerk reaction from hurt feelings
Thomas Garcia
>over population It’s not though, it’s over industrialization. We keep building further and further into the animals remaining land and most only see the option of killing them as the only solution until finally they’re extinct
I've already got the guns and ammo, license is free in many regions because there is a lack of hunters and people desperately need them to cull boars. I don't need any tool but a knife to skin and butcher an animal. So yeah, 100% free, the only thing it would cost me is my time.
Why you mad though?
Alexander Nelson
>muh animals >muh pollution >if you don't love animals you're a subhuman!!1 >:( Wow try presenting an argument anytime.
Jeremiah Parker
>killing off invasive species I’m not mad, maybe you should read my post rather than attempting to be smug
tu es incompétent
Daniel Turner
I did, use your brainy bits and realize mass extinction is right around the corner if we don’t take action
How about the massive necessary farm lands? This doesn't have shit to do with industrialization. This is directly a result of overpopulation.
Hunting is managed well enough to have no impact on most hunted species.
You could kill all but one buck in a hundred miles and every fucking doe still getting a fawn.
And game like quail lives in such a explosive and implosive boom bust cycle based entirely off rain fall that hunting has since been not seasonally regulated as they decided it simply didn't even touch their numbers.
Grayson Adams
>OP is severely uneducated on conservation Hunting fees go to wildlife conservation. Hunters have contributed more money to wildlife conservation than all the PETAfag organizations combined..ever. Not to mention hunters contribute directly to the health of a species in the areas they hunt. This is a long proven fact. >Duh, reducing population don't work It reduces the spread of disease, auto accidents, crop damage, etc. Look it up kiddo. >B-but muh predators Unintended consequences. After predators have reduced populations do they just go to the grocery store to buy food? Do they just become vegans? You're an idiot.
>Hunters and Fishers will only ever kill the best animals that pertain to what their hunting for I dismiss this claim on its face. What a human considers "best" has nothing to do with what is most genetically fit for their environment.
Aiden Bennett
>he doesn’t look at the corelation of registered hunters, insane bag limits and awful hunting seasons
Even in the 1900s we outmatched deer so much we almost killed them off. If you think it’s gotten better you’re wrong it’s the fact that less people need to hunt for food. If that were not the case deer would be extinct. And with the new techniques, equipment and capability we have today. Check out the amount of animals we’ve killed off with the same ideology of “it doesn’t damage their numbers” number one is the passenger pigeon. Used to number in the billions now their extinct
First claim >taxes go to wildlife conservation >taxes go to national parks >implying PETA isn’t a scam >hunters help the species In what fucking way? Give an example
Second claim Obviously the reduction of the population works and it’s called extinction. >spread of disease Nature at work, only the healthiest deer will be immune and allow them to mate passing on their good genetics >auto accidents Again this is humans need for exspansion that needs to be culled >crop damage >killing them is the only option There’s many other ways to keep deer away from crop they’re literally scared puddles of humans >predators are bad for my urbanized zones Okay? How many fucking wild animals live in urbanized zones you fucking mental midget? Reintroduction of wild animals into nature works wonders see my previous post about Yellowstone >lol we don’t know what the best animal genetically speaking is
Are you retarded? Does this deer look genetically defective in any fucking way?
Geez bud, that graph really makes recessions look bad.
Anything I'm missing? Because I'm not seeing your point when the graph says otherwise.
Julian Sullivan
I want to make something from its antlers.
Parker Sullivan
>doesn’t understand that the population keeps growing >doesn’t understand that more humans equals more hunters >doesn’t understand that the animal population will only stay the same OR shrink due to the fact of industrialization and the exspansion of building into nature aka wild animals homes
Since when population control is a bad thing? Hunting is litterally a controlled environment activitiy, you are not allowed to do stuff that will hurt said environment. It is not like anyone can go and just kill everything that moves in the forest.
Josiah Cox
Ya - let's allow more wild wolves to freely roam about. You're a real fucking brainiac. And a faggot.
Anthony Campbell
>killing off all the animals
hunters have bagging limits to prevent killing off all the animals, did you miss this inconvenient fact?
Blake Parker
Why get citizens to do population control when you can get animals that have literally evolved over thousands of years to that very thing perfectly?
Asher Campbell
because hunting is part of our culture and we want to kill animals for sport
William Jackson
I've seen you posting before. You don't actually understand how hunting works. In well maintained hunting grounds the animals become bigger not smaller. Every year sees a new record. The biodiversity grows. Why not look into the facts instead of indulging in fantasy? How could you possibly think that the industrial production of meat is preferable? There are animals who never see the sun in their short and miserable lives.
You can't introduce predatory species because they are dangerous to the human population. In Russia they have packs of 500 wolves attacking entire villages. There's a reason our ancestors killed them.
Dylan Ortiz
>oh geeze these wild wolves will EXPLODE just like the human population!
Incorrect, wolves kill deer and eat them, when there’s a lot of deer more wolves will survive, when the deer population dwindles so will the wolves as their is not enough to sustain the wolf population until they even out and nature is working in cohesion with one another
Im a hunter, have killed about 150 deer and maybe 60 boar.
Killing them gives me meat and hides and a trophy. It also ensures that their population doesnt grow too large that it would begin yo cause issues - car crashes, pigs eating crops, attacking people etc.
Attacking people is rare though but it does happen.
I mostly do it because its population control and its meat.
And is hunting hard? Depends how and where you hunt. If i sit in a blind/seat and wait then no, its just a waiting game.
If i go walking through the forest trying to find something - that is very hard. Really god damn hard.
We also hunt differently to americams, we aim to kill the animal in 1 shot as quickly as possible. We dont want to risk causing them unnecessary pain or suffering. Hence why we only shoot over say 100-max 150 metres.
But you know, you have your opinion op and you arent right. But you also arent wrong, thats the joy of an opinion.
Now if you were to change the law and say we cant hunt animals but we could hunt niggers and muslims - well id give up hunting animals forever (or for a few years until the public eventually and inevitably changes changes their mind and reinstates animal hunting)
Chase Murphy
Mhmm? I can't help that and me not hunting isn't going to help that. That's a lot of assumptions. Retarded assumptions at that.
James Collins
Why help wolves when you can just eat deer? Helping there to be more useless animals eating the delicious animals seems counterproductive.
Julian Gomez
>the deer become bigger >Doesn’t understand these deer are hunted on private land
These aren’t wild deer, these deer are being fed every day without fail with no fear of predators, of course they grow massive. This is the equivalent of Kodiak bears in Alaska
>dangerous to humans They’re literally not. Wolves will not, do not and have not ventured out past their territory to go out of their way and attack and kill humans.
That remote Russian village lost its horses. Had they been better prepared (proper fencing and defensive weapons such as guns) can easily keep them away
>our ancestors killed them for a reason Yeah for self defense. You’re retarded if you think they went out of their way to kill wolves
>The majority of pre-Christian wolf-related traditions in Eurasia were rooted in Hittite mythology,[5] with wolves featuring prominently in Indo-European cultures, sometimes as deity figures.[35] The wolf was held in high esteem by the Dacians, whose name was derived from the Gaulish Daoi, meaning "wolf people". The wolf was viewed as the lord of all animals, and as the only effective power against evil.[36] The Gauls associated wolves with Belenus, the god of light, whose name may have been derived from the Breton bleiz, which itself means 'wolf'. Limping wolf was thought to be one of the manifestations of the Slavic sun god Dažbog. Also, the ancient Greeks associated wolves with their own sun god Apollo.
Charles Thomas
>Less flattering portrayals occurred in Germanic paganism, where the wolf Fenrir kills Odin during Ragnarok. Nevertheless, wolves were admired for their ferocity, and Germanic warriors often had the wolf as their totem, a trait which was later exported to other European cultures.[6] In Lithuanian mythology, an iron wolf appears before Grand Duke Gediminas, instructing him to build the city of Vilnius.[37] Tengrism places high importance on the wolf, as it is thought that, when howling, it is praying to Tengri, thus making it the only creature other than man to worship a deity.[38]
Jace Cook
Please read my other post I’ve already addressed everything you said.
Now there is a disparity in European and American hunters, Europeans tend to respect nature more which I wish we as Americans had
Xavier Smith
>Uh, how do I google an example Hunting license fees at the state level. Federal Aid in Wildlife Restoration Act of 1937 at the federal level. Look it up you fucking dunce. It's not hard or hidden information. >Er, der, wut if I said duh other dumb thangs Nothing else you said is even worth responding to as it is below the level of intelligent conversion I'm willing to subject myself to. And that's saying a lot being this is Jow Forums.
Americans are niggers.. who gives a shit what america does. America should be nuked.
Asher Brown
>lmao how will my actions effect anything So you’re claiming you have no sway whatsoever? You’re claiming to have literally no influence in your day today life? Truly pathetic
>why argue with logic when I can just argue with my feefees?
Lmao I find it funny how hunters can argue like a leftist when they’ve been proven wrong
Leo Ramirez
>I’m running out of ground to stand on so I’ll just say you’re too dumb to argue to save face
Nice no one will ever unveil your brilliant masking technique
>implying I said anything about catch and release
I said hunters and fishers implying the ones who are killing the animals you troglodyte
Hey Hans you wouldn’t survive too long wiithoug our trade. We die, you die
Gabriel Morgan
noguns detected
come back to me when you can hit an 8" target at 100 yards with open sights
Daniel Hill
Wolves have killed tens of thousands of humans in our recent history.
It's why they were wiped out. Beyond even that, they eat livestock and pets. Coyotes are a huge problem in urban and suburban areas. Wolves are Coyotes turned up to 11 that can kill you.
Elijah Morales
>There’s many other ways to keep deer away from crop they’re literally scared puddles of humans
Deer are only scared of people in areas where hunting is common practice. I've got a friend who lives in the most shitlib area of CT and they have deer come up and eat out of backyard gardens in the middle of the day
Logan Foster
One day I'll have dozens of stuffed communists in my living room.
Camden Ramirez
>We also hunt differently to americams, we aim to kill the animal in 1 shot as quickly as possible.
So do we you retarded Kraut, what the fuck made you think we hunt differently than you?
John Flores
I work for a Department of Natural Resources. Excess deer do thousands of dollars worth of damage a year to property, specifically agricultural lands. When deer are not hunted they become over populated and population health declines. Natural predators of these animals are no longer compatible with the ecosystems we humans have built, specifically areas that have been completely teraformed into agricultural lands. Hunting is needed to reduce the population and keep animals healthy. Our management plan has been very effective except for in a few cases.
Nolan Bailey
take it up with the DEC, we don't make the rules.
Nathaniel Cook
No it isn't you mong it's a basic survival skills Anyone who sees it as political are too spineless to do it or Marxists
Angel Flores
Ecofascist here. I understand perfectly where you're coming from, and back when I was a lefty, I would have agreed completely. I'll state first of all that any hunting of endangered species should be strictly off-limits, and moreover sport hunting should be heavily discouraged if not outright banned (hunting for sport is nigger-tier bullshit). However, managed hunting in specific areas (with other, larger nature preserves free of any hunting set aside) is fine, and if you add in what the Kraut ITT said, it can actually end up being more humane towards animals than natural predation. Wolves, for example, will take down an animal and just start eating, but they don't bother to kill it first. A well-aimed rifle shot is merciful by any standard.
Ideally, there would only be light restrictions on hunting/fishing for food, but there are far too many fucking people, and barring long-term depopulation efforts (which should be attempted if other goals like the ethnostate are achieved) it is best to err on the side of caution. Your overall sentiment isn't wrong, but do keep in mind that it has the side effect of discouraging subsistence--and long-term, by way of industrializing food, it ends up hurting a lot of farm animals.
This would be fine with non-damaging methods. Using hooks is overkill and unnecessarily painful if you're not going to eat what you catch.
Basically all major cities in the West should be nuked, it's not necessarily Amerilards but a subset of them. The hicks aren't as numerous as you might think.
A few retards doing retarded shit, like hunting deer using thermal scopes and helicopters (pretty sure that one was in Louisiana).
Gavin Stewart
America has literally nothing of value to us.. we like your muscle cars.. thats it.. your love of niggers and being obese is not in our interest.
... bow hunting? Shooting at such stupid long distances.. the availability of retarded ammunition. Hunting with practically any weapon you want. America was a mistake. I can call you American and have a 50/50 chance you are a nigger.
Christopher Howard
>implying I own many guns, I’m an ex hunter. Now I just do target practice for the most dangerous game. Humans
National socialist, because I belive in the over Man I belive we should take steps that yields the most benefits to us as humans and the world we live in
Daniel Morgan
hunting boars is literally pest control
Jackson Adams
>let me just ignore the reintroduction solution
Matthew Ortiz
America was a mistake. America isnt an ethnicity. America should be nuked so ghe rest of the world is free from its vile clutches.
Joseph Cox
not a hunter, but I am now the harder you shill, the more people you'll turn away
Jonathan Young
This is best solution. Please keep open mind op
Andrew Perry
I'm Scottish and German American and my family have hunted since we came to this country.
I've never once met a bow hunter or anyone using weird weapons. Yeah, we're a big country, there's some assholes, and you hear about it. It's not indicative of the average and you should be ashamed for thinking that's anything more than tabloid news of an interesting minority the news media loves to shove out specifically BECAUSE it's different.
Daniel Rogers
>I live in a first world we’re eveu need is met >literally no threats in any possible way aside from other humans >if I don’t kill something I won’t survive
Tough guy larp
>nothing of value >The economy of Germany is a highly developed social market economy. It has the largest national economy in Europe, the fourth-largest by nominal GDP in the world, and fifth by GDP (PPP). ... In 2016, Germany recorded the highest trade surplus in the world worth $310 billion, making it the biggest capital exporter globally. Is that why you like to trade so much? Because you want our supposed “nothing of value” commodities
Yeah, it’s almost like I advocate for it
Adrian James
We're just golems, if we go the kikes will set up shop somewhere else. Probably the UK/commonwealth.
Alexander Adams
>Hunting and fishing in the modern day only harms nature and the animals within it.
Ya, no. You are an idiot.
Hunters and the fees they pay is what preserves wildlife in this country.
Fuck off basedboy, or is it basedxe?
Aiden Morales
The Bison thing is bullshit. The original populations are way over blown. When White men came they infected the continent. As disease spread and about half the natives died as it passed the Bison were no longer hunted and their population exploded.
Andrew Torres
>the more you show people the truth the more they’ll revolt
What was it? Do not argue with a fool for they will despise the wisdom in your words?
Aka I hurt your feefees and now you’re going to kill something to spite me? Sounds like blacks when you call them niggers desu
Jaxson Murphy
THE TRUTH THANK YOU FOR THAT I couldn't reason and rationalize for myself but since you've spoonfed me the 'truth' NOW I SEE THANK YOU user thank you you work so hard i'll think about you when i'm hunting
Isaac Sanders
Indians didn’t live in the Great Plains until after Europeans introduced the horse to them. Learn something for once
Parker Perry
No argument still? Go ahead take your time I’m waiting
Christian Moore
i got one for you humans need meat to live plants are garbage you already know this though, hence why you're posting so much
Sebastian Young
Yes they did you fucking retard. The Conquistadors found people living there while they were exploring. The first cultures in North America were in the Great Plains.
It wasnt ignored. "Natural predators of these animals are no longer compatible with the ecosystems we humans have built..." You lack critical thinking and comprehension skills. Reintroducing predators such as wolves would be ineffective as they would have no habitat. Furthermore, any habitat they did find would be so few and far apart that large swaths of land would still need management. Midwestern states have little to no original habitat left as they have been processed into the breadbox of the world.
Deer are only part of the problem too. Areas with wild boars, asian carp, and other invasive species are the worse off. These animals have not natural predators to reintroduce. Without humans management they would completely destroy the ecosystems they enter. Management of these species hasn't really made any dent into their populations anyway and we still face the threat of species like the zebra mussel on our local ecosystems.
Mason Long
>Humans need meat to live I conquer, that’s why a more feesible option for this is domestication and selective breeding, breeding the animals to be fatter and more meaty is way more viable if you want to eat good meat.
I don’t deny that in order to domesticate an animal you must take them from the wild. However most hunters would claim their hunting doesn’t effect the ecosystem In any noteworthy way. So by that logic. Trapping 30 or so deer and beginning to selectively breed them to be bigger is more logical than killing off the biggest in nature
Here’s your sign
Matthew Green
Many hunters pay to have 2 animals protected for every 1 they kill
Ethan Cooper
What animals? Sometimes population gets out of control in a huge scale. For example warthogs are numerous, they fuck like crazy and destroy local ecosystem before any type of predator will manage to catch up with them naturally. Sometimes nature takes a lot of time to get shit done and animals do fucked up shit at the same time.
David Roberts
good one kike instead of people getting their own you want a system that they can rely on nice keep dreaming
Ryan Carter
>The Spanish explorer Francisco Vásquez de Coronado was the first European to describe the Plains Indian culture. While searching for a reputedly wealthy land called Quivira in 1541, Coronado came across the Querechos in the Texas panhandle. The Querechos were the people later called Apache. According to the Spaniards, the Querechos lived "in tents made of the tanned skins of the cows (bison). They dry the flesh in the sun, cutting it thin like a leaf, and when dry they grind it like meal to keep it and make a sort of sea soup of it to eat....They season it with fat, which they always try to secure when they kill a cow. They empty a large gut and fill it with blood, and carry this around the neck to drink when they are thirsty."[3] Coronado described many common features of Plains Indians culture: skin tepees, travois pulled by dogs, Plains Indian Sign Language, and staple foods such as jerky and pemmican. The Plains Indians found by Coronado had not yet obtained horses; it was the introduction of the horse that REVOLUTIONIZED Plains culture.
Brandon Gonzalez
I advocated for this in my third post, just keep on a reading friend
Blake Barnes
>Indians didn’t live in the Great Plains until after Europeans introduced the horse to them
Nolan Moore
>If you hunt or fish regularly >Hunters and Fishers will only ever kill the best animals >BRO CHECK OUT THIS 18 POINT SWORDFISH I SHOT BRO fishing is a grab bag and you know it Arguments will go over a lot better if you don't exaggerate to the point of being disingenuous.
>en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_extinct_plants >in a thread about hunting You want to know how I know you're just one of those "humans are meanies killing the earth" faggots who hasnt done much if any ecological research? You could have just made a thread about pollution with an emphasis on recycling and it would have made a lot more sense
>>but I love the taste of venison >If this is true then you’d realize it’s far more sensible to buy it rather than go into the wild and kill a deer >WHY KILL AN ANIMAL WHEN YOU CAN JUST BUY THE MEAT?¿?
Also nice Wikipedia article faggot. Why don't you pick a book up for once? You'd know that the Great Plains were one of the most densly populated areas in North America until the Mississippi cultures exploded (right before they got wiped out by disease, which also wiped out the Great Plains people decades later as the diseases spread west)
Jaxson Long
correct me if im wrong but i think re-introducing wolves would definitely help, i heard wolves can actually change the environment they are in. i was reading how wolves were reintroduced into, i dunno yellowstone? and by the deers not feeding openly by the banks of rivers anymore the rivers and streams stopped eroding the banks. some shit like that i read it in national geographic.
Down here we have a problem with Nutria eroding shit away with their burrows but even the alligators cant keep up with eating them, if i had a bit more money i would try sell nutria meat to places but for now no-one can get past the fact that its a giant rat
Adam Kelly
>reintroducing wolves into their previously natural habitat wouldn’t help because they wouldn’t have a habitat
Lmao wtf are you on about?
My main goal would be to get all current registered hunters to focus all their energy on invasive species and completely killing them off
good luck trapping a deer, some animals are not compatible with domestication. even with modern farming techniques a deer farm would never turn a profit when people could just go in the woods and shoot one
Asher Bennett
There is a big difference between Yellowstone and areas where people live.
Kevin Anderson
Have you ever spent 5 minutes outside your walls, or maybe a day in nature? Your arguments are simply shit....and completely uninformed. If I had to guess? Maybe 22 yrs old?
Easton Young
>what is supply and demand If people wanted more deer meat the market would adjust to supply more deer meat
If you want to have that freedom of choice then get your own cow then raise your own cattle and make your own hamburger next time. Otherwise stop larping
You’re right I should’ve reworded my statement more clearly, as of now I redact it. At least I can admit when I’ve claimed something wrong
>people this dumb think they’re intelligent because lmao I’m such a hard ass driving around in a 4x4 killing a weaker and dumber species with literally no skill required
>disease amongst natives spread Never understood this claim. Before horses were introduced to the America’s all natives had to walk from place to place. And some how every Tribe contracted this disease. Even though most tribes were hostile to one another and most tribes didn’t trade with one another. The spread would’ve been down by colonizers not by other natives
And yes every animal is domesticatable. Wolves weren’t domesticated In a day.
Obviously it was more feasible to Europeans to domesticate cows rather than going out and killing them whenever they got hungry. Killing deer in the modern day is a pointless exercise
If their so easily dismantled then you would’ve already done it. However you’re pointless post claiming I’m wrong with literally no evidence shows you have not a foot to stand on in the debate
Josiah Taylor
>not supplying a counter argument
Smells like a bad case of the hurt feefees
Jaxson Harris
Do you really think that’s what people mean by the disease spreading or are you being intentionally retarded?
Joshua Turner
Please explain, we could be further along in the debate if your weren’t asking rhetorical questions
Connor Martinez
>Hunters and Fishers >"Fishers"
You know nothing
Tyler Williams
>hunting is easy >poor animals are killed by meanie hunters :( >meanie hunters go after the alpha animals of the pack (shows how little you really know kek) >it is far better to get meat from animals that have been through the horrors of industrialized meat farming than to track and harvest a wild animal
Everything you wrote is a strawman bullshit argument and it is clear you have never held a gun, hunted, or even done serious research into conservation efforts in the U.S. you have also been making this thread more and more in the last few weeks you obnoxious retard. Saged and hidden
