ITT: Why haven't you took up polygamy Jow Forums? What sort of societal implications would it have if legalized nationwide in the US?
Also, redpill me on the dynamics of it. I'm new to the situation. Lay it on me heavy.
>t. southern memeflag looking for multipoon
>captchas are pissing me the fuck off. shit needs to be banned.
99.99% of this board cant get one woman, you think they can get more than one?
It would destroy western society and return us back to the Bronze Age Semitic days when you were either part of the small wealthy elite or had to fuck goats.
Also even if you are part of the elite you have to fuck your cousin
It's only for building human capital in a short amount of time.
Society collapses any other time.
If you want a true Incel Rebellion, comprised of millions of angry young men with no investment in society and nothing to live for because they are unable to attain the necessary stability of a wife and family, then endorse polygamy.
Goats, you say?
It is the natural order of things and the Rabbis want to hold down the strongest white males from breeding armies of superior Goyim. Just do it anyway inspite of what the Government says. Polygamy is your right given by god .
This is most likely the best answer because of the whole 10% rule. Monogamy needs to be boosted, not destroyed entirely.
Instaboner... can't explain it.
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(((here's a you))) that's not true user.
reasoning? I'm aware monogamy exists to make beta males productive, but in the current state of decay, might it be beneficial to also have polygamy for us less-to-non degenerates?
>worried about having to fuck your cousin
>my memeflag
kek
shit, while were at it, also consensual incest thread. Give me positions and reasoning.
>17 fucking captchas, failed upload 3 times
will giant girls require twice the amount of chainlink after the singularity?
>-gamy
Why the fuck would I marry all these bitches I fuck? Most of them would make terrible mothers.
polygamy is for religious nutjobs and bay area faggots
but your pic is doing things to my dick
You can't just have the old days where everyone just fucked all the time with modern medicine now. The entire planet would be overpopulated in a few centuries and if you things are overpopulated now with 7 billion people wait till we start getting up into the 50 billion range. For fucks sake China had to adopt a 1 kid to a family policy because they wouldn't stop breeding like rabbits and were going to be royally fucked. You can't have your fucking cake and it it too
The current problem of women chasing the top Chads to the exclusion of all else during their fertile years is bad enough without letting them marry the Chad too.
But I'm sure you can run a mean bronze age farming kingdom with your ultra-elites that get 99.9% of women. The mass of unmarried men totally uninvested in society would surely be okay with this and not revolt at all.
I-is that Sansa and Arya?
Works for the mormon branches that still practice it, no?
>reasoning?
That's literally how the old world worked before monogamy
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The only thing that kept men from rebelling was that, prior to the Abrahamic religions there were state funded temple cult prostitutes. Now that we have Abrahamic religions like Islam we aren't even allowed to have prostitutes anymore. The poor bastards in Islam have to resort to fucking farm animals because their heads will be chopped off if they pay for whores.
the real problem is how is chad going to be able to feed all of his children? if you force unfuckable incels (aka pol) to do it you have to give them something in exchange, maybe robot waifus
polygamy is downright stupid as you create a mass of men you cant get a women and arent invested in your nations future. Such things lead to serious strife and conflict and you will be fucked by other nations who do not practice polygamy.
This fact alone is why polygamy only is a thing in absolute shithole places.
because kids need a healthy household to be properly raised. I'd rather raise 2 high quality men than 10 wigger hordes.
It would lessen the value of both parties.
It is wrong and against the values of promoting a family.
If you love someone more than yourself you will never, ever betray your family.
This
The only solution would be bringing back the state funded temple prostitutes like back in the old days in the Middle East. But in America they would call that "socialism" so it is never happening here.
because they are living in a nation that keeps things running. Mormons are absolute trash and utter complete retards.
You're wrong to believe that everyone on pol is an unfuckable incel Jose
t.25 y/o boomer
it was just a joke granpa
Those groups are pretty insular.
They make their own clothes, grow their own food, and rely on government or outsiders for absolutely nothing. It's actually dangerous for them to intermingle with Americans and expose their polygamy.
Polygamy is why the middle east is such a shithole. Why not head to europe or blow yourself up when there aren't nearly enough women?
it would only work if the goal was producing lots of children, and you had the means to support it
women will only cooperate if they know they're getting something good out of it, and have children to make them feel good
Id say its a mistake in all cases, a complication that is simply not necessary in the modern world, but of course it automatically happens if you're successful enough
There is a difference between pleasure and satisfaction.
Don’t settle for pleasure.
>rely on government or outsiders for absolutely nothing
except technology, medicine and most of all PROTECTION. Polygamous idiots and just a lower form of civilization as they cant muster the same amount of loyalty and will to fight from its male population.
The polygamous societies in Europe got raped and fucked out of existence by more powerful monogamous groups.
Everyone I know that's into polygamy seems quite unhappy, there was even a study done recently that shown that people in open relationships aren't anymore happy than people who are having traditional relationships
Which makes sense because if one women can satisfy you don't really need another one or maybe being a degenerate is just simply not my cup of tea
Bingo, We promote monogamy because it allocates resources more efficiently to looking after children and because it keeps men having skin in the game. Chad can't pay for all his kids and doesn't care to, kids need nurturing to grow up normal and there's no more destructive force on this planet than a bunch of men with nothing to do and nothing to lose.
Ok buddy relax, I already agree with you just for different reasons. I don't think you can pair bond effectively with more than one wife.
I'm just saying that I've seen white polygamist communities that seem to work. Efficiency is debatable.
poly families milk the shit out of welfare
>I've seen white polygamist communities that seem to work.
they do "work" just not very effectively and they are considerably weaker than the more modern monogamous systems. So sure you can have a white polygamous society some place where you are protected by other more powerful and stable states like the Mormons in the US.
That's why so many men in islamic countries join militias and terrorist groups. They get a chance to rape/get enough money to pay for a bride. Polygamy breaks societies.
well it's not legal atm nationwide anyway. "Married" as in a simple vow, please don't take my shit lol.
I actually find it odd that most pro white groups don't support polygamy more often, especially right now. I think if everyone went back to subsistence farming, overpopulation or starving wouldn't happen. of course, that's IF we control immigration and shit, and put a serious yoke on welfare classes for not being productive citizens at all. We should colonize the damn desert and make it grow trees again.
>fucking farm animals because their heads will be chopped off if they pay for whores.
damn. My grandpa always told me whores have there place in society. He stayed married till my grandma past away, and was always "at home" when he was "at home." Stayed faithful except on the road. Truck driver.
chad better get to fucking work.
true. monogamy should still be promoted as well.
nah man for the most part they're pretty decent people. corrupt elite, but where is the elite not corrupt?
>getting something good out of it
dick? ;)
i would only be in it family wise. where is that quote about how man is always in pain for he is the sculptor and the marble? You should force yourself into pain and unhappy scenarios if you have the option to avoid them, simply to better yourself when you've got the time. I do not seek continous pleasure. I seek life, love, and liberty.
agreed. a man's home is his castle. this is where mormon's fall short. Personal security of yourself and neighbors is a must. like those crazy vet bastards in australia that amassed overnight ready to fight.
t. americans.
Their hearts aren't truly in it. It's like filling an addiction, you can't. Back to the topic though. Could we make it work?
not a fan of freemasons, but "who will raise the widow's son?" seems to apply here.
>That's literally how the old world worked before monogamy
and the old world collapsed and got fucked by more stable and powerful new systems like monogamy. The polygamous societies could only muster like a tenth of the manpower monogamous could because most of the men in the polygamous societies just dont give a shit about protecting a system where they cant further their genes.
>pair bond effectively
sources?
again, could we fix this by promoting monogamy as well? I hate leftist bullshit as much as the next about free love, but I'm thinking about the future on how to sort this shit out. As well as how it would appear in regards to the legal system and getting this country back on track. We whiteys are good at building societies, we need to put our autistic intellect to work here.
to be fair here, should we cap the waifu limit?
In reply to myself, what about consensual incest situations? I have been thinking about sperm banks, and the fact that a lot of people are going to wind up having the same NEET dad soon, wtf are we going to do when they wind up banging, go to get married, and the law says no, you're fucking siblings? I'm surprised no one is talking about this much.
Sorry about the massive reply posts, im fucking bored tonight.
Just curious but do you feel monogamy is a societal restriction on male sexuality or female sexuality? Or perhaps both?
the other pic is so much hotter, bw
>again, could we fix this by promoting monogamy as well?
so you want "hypergamy" for yourself and monogamy for everyone else?
newsflash cunt, nobody likes greedy kikes
>do you feel monogamy is a societal restriction on male sexuality or female sexuality?
its mostly restriction on male sexuality. Same thing as its men who drives the whole "purity" for women.
See a women always knows that her offspring is her offspring while a man cant know (new technology have enables to do this but societies are built on our biological evolution). So the men who restricted their women and kept them in check are the ones who got most descendants. Monogamous societies is the same. To make sure you are not killed off by the younger males and to protect yourself from foreign males we have created systems like marriage and the whole bonding for life. Women are not particular interested in either of these systems as their reproduction and furthering of their genes are guaranteed.
>Or perhaps both?
it clearly restricts both but its a male created system.
Are you already married?
This is the BIGGEST question that matters.
This was the most disappointing wank ever
FUCK, which epside of GoT is this again?
Have a white wife and family and a pale skinned Punjabi mistress if that counts. Would have more but to busy making money and enjoying life.
Polygamy is the natural order for men. Biologically men are wired with the desire to impregnate as many women as possible whereas women are wired to seek a single man to be their protector.
So only the most capable of men reproducing is a bad thing?
Both, but it supposed to keep whores in line so that even beta men can get a wife. This increases production on a large scale because he doesn't feel left out, he has mouths to feed. Take your average beta cuck, and he probably cant hold a job simply because he has no reason to. (not that most jobs are worth holding, american corporations are piles of shit atm) At the same time, sluts are either all banging chad, are past 40 and cant have kids, or are fucking dominant men from other societies, fuggin up the gene pool and displacing the native population. Immigration is a side effect of letting these women into power unrestrained. So yea, probably both.
not everybody is interested in my (currently nonexistant)lifestyle. But I am a non degenerate, with good genes. So yes. Point is, I don't want the average person who is unlike me having shitty lives either. That's bad for society and unproductive on both fronts to deny both. So how do we better our communities? The gov don't exist, only we do. We enforce our made up laws, so how do we fix society? I'm bored and this needs to be brought up any damn way, so why not here? I'm not a kike. Check my memeflag.
Nope, but I didn't start swallowing redpills until about a 2 years ago, so no sex before marriage is already off the table. Though i would prefer virginity among wives, as I have swallowed the telegony pill. I realize that is a double standard, but it's biology. Men want to fuck and date down, women want to fuck but shouldn't and date up. I need to spread my seed, and would prefer a clean slate to raise children that look and behave like me so that i can bring them up right, and make decent people out of them.
>I need to spread my seed, and would prefer a clean slate to raise children that look and behave like me so that i can bring them up right, and make decent people out of them.
Then You need to get a degree, get a good job, find a Trad/religious wife, and breed the living fuck out of her.
You can have both monogamy and a large family with kids.
You just need to get the resources to support them!
Follow my advice.
We will be kings over them.
Just got my life back together, going back to college for programming for a better job, then will be going back for electrical engineering.
>breed the living fuck out of "all of them"
I've always felt and dreamed of having more than one woman. Thought about it and felt about it. Logically sound for me and feels good to. It's what i want to do. I do not want to lead others astray, if it's not the life for you, by all means, stay with one woman or stay with sluts if you can't handle a wife 24/7. I think it should be that polygamy should be legal, and should be shunned for those who would be unfit for the lifestyle. Basically, I believe we need to return to common sense in how we deal with issues like this. We have to get our country back on track, especially for the common man and woman.
Polygamy worked maybe in stone age where grugs were beating themselves with clubs over mate partners.
Today if we replace monogamy with Polygamy, our civilisation will fall really fast. Because:
> Because like only 20% of men will have kids, then our genetical diversity will be alot ALOT smaller and genetical pool will be smaller over generation, so immunity aganist some epidemics will fall badly.
> Quality of children raising will fall drasticaly because like over 20 kids will have same father who has limited time and money. Under monogamy father had to raise less children so there was more time and money per child.
> Amount of single men will drasticaly rose, and remember single man wont even care what will happen in future because he has no kids to care for, also single man will work less because he only need to care about nobody but himself.
> Amount of incels killing sprees will rise drasticaly.
Why not just go full Mormon?
They got multiple wives and you don’t have to encourage polygamy anywhere else.
If your intention is to maintain a white majority voice in our democracy so that we still own America then breeding like a nigger will only foster more liberals.
There is a trade off between the number of kids you have and how much influence you have over them.
Not sure if you mean actually convert to mormonism or just adopt their strategies and practices, I am not entirely interested in them. I have mormon family members (non polygamous types) so I know I'm not exactly a big fan of transitioning to that. In the OP, I was just asking about the dynamics of polygamy from people who had researched into it further, if any redpills could be learned for the general audience and myself. I'm not actually trying to spread it, but am considering what would happen if it was legalized nationwide and how we would deal with it as a country.
>breeding like a nigger
I don't plan on having 30 kids user. 3-6-9 would be okay, with maybe 3 wives. (mistresses are another subject..) I am aware of the trade off, I would want to be available as much as possible to be a decent father.
polygamy ruins families and consistent relationships, which is terrible for children and society at large
it makes everyone unhappy and creates skewed violent societies: see middle east, where the rich get harems and poor men get none and become
radicalized (unironical incels who have to fuck goats or rape boys to get any sex)
west had socially and culturally enforced monogamy for very good reasons
I would be those twos Mormon "daddy". Isn't that how it works now? The women own the property/homes, the men are transient between them.
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>> Because like only 20% of men will have kids, then our genetical diversity will be alot ALOT smaller and genetical pool will be smaller over generation, so immunity aganist some epidemics will fall badly.
The evidence backs this up.
but aren't they violent any damn way? I'm gonna start asking for sources if no one provides me the reasons why polygamy is bad. Islam may have polygamy in it, but i'm speaking from a white man in america point of view. Islam and its goatfucking are unrelated to the current topic. Gonna start needing sources if i keep seeing posts like this.
Sorry but that's not how it works. Semites are shit and inbred.
Well then. 80% of men are now single, work bare minimum to survive and cultivate their hobbies.
Not care about what happens in future because they dont have kids who will live in future.
And in case of war most of these men will just GTFO because they dont have anything to risk their life for.
>west had socially and culturally enforced monogamy for very good reasons
It was not enforced, monogamy is natural to the European. It comes from within. Cold winters and harsh times forced men to focus on the best women and women to have a man that focuses on her children.
That's because their communities are one big circle jerk for like 5 generations. Of course they're "a million times more likely to develop rare genetic disorder." But you can't develop the disorder if you don't have it. Where is the bad gene going to come from if no one has one? And if someone is born with it, why are you fucking a retard?????? You're only making it worse at that point. If marriage wasn't pre scripted for elites back in the day, they wouldn't have had nearly the trouble with retarded kings. STOP BANGING RETARDS. kek
I hate to say it, but by inbreeding you can actually "weed out" bad genes. (by not banging the retard.) Yea sure, there is the off chance that a certain point, so many people have a gene that an entire generation might be wiped out when they have children, but that chance is actually MORE likely to occur by outbreeding.
right, we need to get our shit together as a society and help these NEETs. Let the degenerates die off, but we need to restructure society to better our communities and build a strong nation again. (true for any nation mind you.)
>Pooville doesn't get GoT?
Well look at typical perma single man. Now imagine 80% of all men in your country is like that.
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Just be a fucking FLDS Mormon if you want multiple wives.
>Thinking you can hold down even 1 corrupted roastie
yeah there were natural primal reasons, but then it got institutionalized and enforced even for aristocracy (at least formally)
where did you get this?¿
if by capable you mean violent, yes it's a bad thing. If you actually meant capable, then you don't understand a fucking thing about women.
>tfw no tall gf to bully gflet together like that.
Why even live?
Polygamy is one real answer to solve the epidemics of single 40 year woman that unable to find husband because of hitting the wall.
>tfw you could live as harem king with your ideal 20y old wife serves for your offspring and three 40y concubines that worked for your fortune (all these wall hitting cougars have good careers so no objections.)
These 40y old concubines had learned her mistake for riding cock carousel, left unwanted as second grade. Being accepted as "second wife" is the most generous thing she could get.
Yeah but the second problem is also fact, many really inteligent men dont look good enought to belong to 20% good looking men what attract women (because hypergamy instinct dont care about intelect).
How about that, you want to make genius genes go to trash?
>couldn't
>can't
>disgusted
I had a run, but after multiple infidelities, and the couple of times they cut mine out, it kind of wears on a person.
I've stated more than once that monogamy should be promoted, but polygamy legalized. We need father figures willing to not raise pieces of shit sons. We're not islamic, and what they do as a "race" more or less is not our DNA. Hence, they might have polygamy, but we could do it better, without the fucked up religious attachments.
>roastie
you mean a properly raised young woman, who is a virgin because she abstains from absorbing male DNA that is not going to be the father her children because she was taught about telegony?
Why the fuck would I start with a roastie?
i second this opinion, hadn't thought of that.
wrong, because hypergamy can be exploited to work in your favor. And geniuses with bad looks can be taught.
the 99% of Jow Forums cant land a girl is a meme in itself. I would also say untrue, unless I'm just a 1 percenter.
>Thinking you can find virgin women outside of religion
Even if you do, they'll be propagandized hard by the media and other shallow bitches telling them that the new norm is having multiple partners. With no religion to adhere to, they have no duty to oppose.
Any idiot knows you won't live a long life if you fuck all the women in the village.
which town rapist told you that
If polygamy will be legalized then
promoting monogamy wont do shit. Yeah women will hear about "How monogamy gives better benefits to your children etc." but at the end for women it feels to good to be a wife of "chad". Do promoting healthy lifestyle removed mass obessity? do promoting books made people choose books over other media? Then how promoting monogamy will make people dont go into polygamous relations?
Also yes hacking hyperfamy is possible but its not that miraclemaker as you think it is, maybe it will work if man is 7/10.
I seen video about PUA (PickUp artists who are meant to be "Hypergamy exploiter") who was also asian manlet, he didnt look bad but he was short, yeah he managed to get some atention from women but women didnt let him go further than small talking.
I've actually taken this into experiment. Turns out, if you are strong in your words and do not lose yourself, you can set any woman straight because women follow, not lead. Opening her eyes to the propaganda is the first ticket to them listening to you as a man. They only listen to that shit because there aren't any men these days showing them truth. Tell her shallow bitch friends to go have all the partners they want, then show your woman how theyre going to fuck up and wanting to settle down with a betabux scenario as her appearance begins to degrade. Just be the alpha fuck. But more importantly be a man. Any decent father will let you date his virgin daughter if you're not a complete piece of shit in today's climate. Hell, if you try to be a man AT ALL, you're going to be doing better than 99% of the men out there anyway. So it's not hard.
kek
Simply because some are not cut out for it. Not all women flock to chad. A larger average might, but not all. Not to mention, all of the failed polygamy families will be examples to everyone else on who is cut out for such situations and who isn't. It'd be common knowledge. Removing mass obesity by promoting a healthy lifestyle is like telling a NEET to get a wife so he has a purpose. I am aware there are other problems atm inhibiting this, and simply promoting monogamy will not be a cure all. Regarding the asian manlet, sometimes you have to play your own market. But Pickup Artists are not picking up Long Term Relationships either. Don't pick your wife up from a bar or club or off the street. That's common sense. Nifty PUA tricks won't make you a man, but are valuables tools even in a Long Term. Women respond to Men.
bump
Showing failed Polygamy relationships wont work. Maybe will work a bit. But for example, you can show to women that relationship with careles "casanova" from gym almost allways ends badly for woman and/or her emotions but still majority for women will fly into guys like that like flies into shit.
True. Some girls are going to do that no matter what. Most of the time the majority of girls who do that however are lacking a decent father figure and proper upbringing, but could be taught about such things if a father figure was there.
But don't forget the other side of the argument, the boy. Men should raise their sons not to be shit. And should raise their sons with the skill sets necessary to attract a girl they want using the same attributes that attracts the girl to the douchebag at the gym. Thereby negating the majority of those assholes in existence at the gym, and multiplying those that are worth a fuck who are now able to get the girl they want so they don't make those mistakes.