She's right you know.
>"When it comes to tax cuts for bills and unlimited war," she said, "we seem to invent that money very easily."
According to Jow Forums, Somehow enriching the jews in control of the military industrial complex is worse than investing in the health and education of your own citizens.
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Because "Islamic" groups make more money raiding American oil fields than they do training imams and mullahs.
It's all the same.
>implying medicare for all would lead to better health
>implying medicare for all is cheaper than endless war
>implying anything at all with this harpy
Regardless, the red pill is that subjugating the middle East pays for itself in one way or another. Meanwhile, paying for your hospital bills is.. Costly.
We don't want either.
>Costly
Have you considered how having more healthy and educated workers without healthcare or student load debt would vastly improve economic growth? Why is this viewed as some cost with no return on investment?
I want to cum in her butt and make Cuomo lick the shit off my dick
Because being a world hegemon, at least in theory, pays a dividend while treating nigs and spics doesn't.
Considering the US is finished with policing the world for NATO members, in turn allowing those member countries to direct military funding towards their welfare state, the US is going to have a nice surplus soon.
fucking international socialist always looking for a hand out tryina get them gibs like a fucking nigger. disgusting
Alot of luxuries are indirectly a result of US military might/leverage.
>She's right you know
She hasn't been right about anything so far. Her interviews are trainwrecks. She's a joke and it's going to be hilarious when she gets destroyed.
I mean, the cost of war is nothing when compared to 42 trillion dollars over ten years for public healthcare.
Indirectly and directly. Pressurized cabins in aircraft, for example. Tampons is another example (they were originally used to plug bullet wounds in WW1). Duct tape. GPS. The list of directly beneficial military R&D'd shit is ... very long.
>jew military industrial complex
>jew run higher education
>jew run healthcare lobby
You don't have much ground to stand on here jew-boy
It would be the Keynesian thing to do or are Republican still concerned about the deficit? I'm confused.
>plug bullet wounds
Who the hell told you that? Precursors to the tampon have been used for literally thousands of years. The first modern one was invented by a doctor who got the idea from a friend that used a sponge. Nothing to do with the army.
>investing in the health and education of your own citizens
That's how it starts kiddo. Your own country becomes a real nice place but soon enough there won't be any problems and the filthy goys will be happy. Once there is more than enough for your own country's bottom-line are provided for out of everyone else's pockets, you need to use that excess wealth to provide for everyone else goy!
Providing for your own country only works if it's your own country. Something that USA can't even manage as it is let alone if they start providing gibs while everywhere south of the border is venturing into self-imposed poverty.
Tl;dr - It's a waterslide that starts nice, enters a dark tunnel, then suddenly you're flying towards a rocky mountainside covered in the bloodstains of Sweden, Canada, Germany, France, Britain, etc.
>Mentions Jow Forums in half-derogatory manner
>Mentions supporting jews
>Thinks this will change peoples opinions
Stop providing this fewl (You)'s.
>student load debt
With the number of absolute fucking idiotic majors allowed today.. no. The tax payers absolutely should not pay for your education in stupid as fuck shit like .. Leisure Studies. Yes. That is a real major at a real university. It's like morons like you don't realize that they come up with this specifically to fool morons like you into taking those courses. It's all about money you fucking retard. Don't want to be in debt? Then realize you don't need to go to fucking New York University (one of the most expensive in the land) .. and you absolutely should NOT major in something as idiotic as .. LGBT Studies, Golf Management, Art History, ...
In other words.. don't be a fucking moron and you won't be in debt the rest of your life. Then idiots like you won't be bitching and moaning trying to get the tax payers to pay YOUR debt.
You seem to be under the impression that the current healthcare system doesn't cost more than that.
Even if everything became private, have you considered the economic loses due to millions of people being unable to pay for appropriate healthcare? That's a massive loss of workers, economic output and innovation.
Then don't cover shitty majors. Problem solved.
>The current system... put in place by a socialist nigger.
Hm...
Maybe she should read about capitalist imperialism
She won’t because she’s a 80 iq shitskin that wants free stuff
What the hell do you think we had before Obama? Perfect, problem-free, free market healthcare?
See.. you're exactly the type of person they target. It's been successful for them. The major wasn't the ONLY thing I mentioned in what I stated.. and the two things I did mention are NOT the exhaustive list of stupid shit people to do get in more debt than they'd ever be able to pay off. The fact that this has to be spelled out for you tells me that you're someone who has or would major in something completely fucking stupid.
It doesn't cost more than that. Literally Vox published an article on how much more it would cost.
I never said it all be private either. And besides, most already had healthcare before Obamacare. It was a minority that didn't have access to Medicare or private insurance, includinh a huge chunk of young people that didn't even want it. To this day a lot of them prefer to pay the fine than get forcibly get on Obamacare.
Who is talking about shit before Obama? It wasn't you... and you're the person I responded to. You know what I think would be better? Government NOT having it's hands in fucking health care. Why? Because I actually paid attention in my high school civics classes and I realize that the ONLY thing you're going to get by letting the government run something is SHIT. The government was set up specifically to be inefficient. You want to fix health care? Get RID of insurance. That's step number 1.
Goys can't get free healthcare
Men need war. Look at all the cucks that have populated the earth these days.
I understand war now.
Not problem free, but Obamacare was the worst of both worlds. You can't force someone to buy something if they don't want it for one.
Two it created a weird space for middle income people where it made it more expensive somehow.
Obviously it wasn't problem free, but the real issue is hospital transparency, not isurance providers.
Military budgets have to run congruent with social entitlement budgets when you're $20 Trillion in Debt
But this is a fallacy. All prosperous nations provide some sort of baseline welfare for they poorest citizens. This has always been true. If not, then all the "excess" wealth goes into policing the angry peasants and protecting the oligarchs. Economic output and innovation grind to a halt.
Have you ever once considered that sharing wealth can improve your own well-being?
>when you're $20 Trillion in Debt
You would think after Trump and GOP stopped shilling this meme you guys would realize the debt is a made up concept and can be abolished with a stroke of a pen.
But how can you improve hospital transparency without government regulation?
Not really since most of it is owed to Social Security. The Dems also make a lot out of the debt, it's not just Trump.
You don't. The government needs to forcibly do it, but I believe that's state law though. Not federal law.
>Muh all government is bad
I can never take arguments like this seriously. The nations with the best healthcare have government involvement. The US has always had some government involvement in healthcare. Can you explain how a healthcare system without government would work? When poor people and children get hurt or sick, how would that be handled? How about research or epidemics?
Because America can only afford to pay for one or the other. Not both. This is also the only reason Europe can have socialized medicine. Because America is spending so god damn much money keeping them safe with their military. American citizens are effectively subsidizing European healthcare.
>pulls out of Middle East AGAIN
>another group takes over and starts bombing everywhere
>invade Middle East AGAIN from square one
Because people inevitably will take advantage. Also alot of people work in the healthcare system and don't want to see it completely collapse. Also the tax burden will be carried by the middle class not the rich. This will effectively destroy the middle class and the healthcare system. More workers will just lead to greater wage stagnation.
But..but...but Europe does it just fine. Because we subsidize their socialism. By paying for their defense and selling them medicine below cost.
>I can't argue against the actual words, so I'll put some words in their mouth and argue against those words instead!
This is a straw man. I did not say "all government is bad". I said "government is inefficient". There is a difference.. but I certainly wouldn't expect you to understand that. Did not read the non-green because you've already shown you're an outright moron.
that's not what happened tho. we invaded the middle east because a bunch of kikes tricked us into dying for israel. being israel's good goy is far more expensive and has far less return than even the most liberal of socialist policies.
The Democrats are the biggest warmongers, they've been trying to cause a confrontation with Russia since 2014, they're only anti-war when not in power
And the difference would be what exactly? I guess having it managed at the state level could work, but a large portion of healthcare confusion comes from the different regulations in different states. People move around. Healthcare records exists on different types of systems. Curtain States have better/worse doctors or equipment. Accounting for those difference cost time, money, and resources.
No, america is fully capable of producing its own oil. The only one that benefits from middleasts easy oil is the global oil companies.
So you really don't think we get anything in return for that protection? Why do you think we do it?
>Healthcare records exists on different types of systems.
That would be true regardless. Hell, I still can't get my urologist to give my records to my PCP (I have to make a request for a copy of the records, then deliver them to my PCP).
But that's not even true. If that's the case, why does public healthcare in other countries perform better than anything the US has ever had?
You know what could help? Government regulation.
Cause you know and fight before WW3 happens, you fucking fag.
You may have forgotten, but we know how the US saved us from 2 totalitarians regimes ( the Fascist and Soviet ones )
Iraq was so incredibly unstable prior to the invasion and a huge threat!
> The UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT was set up specifically to be inefficient.
> Other governments around the world do X .. so it would work here too!
How fucking retarded are you? How do you not understand that other places in the world have different types of governments? They have different laws, regulations, constitutions, etc. This is not news to anyone in the world... except you. I can not and will not speak of those other governments.. specifically because of what I've mentioned here.
Government regulation is why my urologist WON'T share...
>Tuition
Wouldn't mind free tuition for students that have a 3.0 gpa + and who are taking STEM majors. That way people don't fucking do retarded majors.
>Healthcare
Just reduce price of pharmecuticals for kids under 16 and the elderly. Obese people are required to take nutrition classes and are given gym memberships. Required to at least go 5 hours each week. That can be done in a day or spread throughout the week. Most importantly no free hormones for trannies. Only for males or women with actual hormone problems. Yes that means free testosterone for beta males.
protip: the military is a jobs program
We did during the cold war. We don't anymore, NATO should have been abolished or aimed another direction a long time ago. But no we don't get anything for paying for Europe's defense. To keep trade routes secure all we need is naval force projection. Europe could collapse we'd survive just fine. I'd rather that not happen but until we pull out of NATO we can't afford socialized medicine
The difference would be you would know exactly what you're paying for. As is hospitals can treat and then charge pretty much whatever they want. They keep their price list secret.
Are you sure? It just sounds like they have two independent systems.
Fuck this. The libtards had no problem with King Nigger’s Fed “creating $10 Trillion” out of thin air to keep King Nigger’s economy from face planting like it should have.
There's more to it, that oil was once valuable meant the Saudis do have a lot of money and they want a lucrative investment that's not drugs or sex, as that's haram.
Oil created the Islamic mercenary groups called IS, Al Qaeda and Islamic brotherhood. Someone needs to fix this and believe it or not it's more important than fixing your boo boo you got from trying to get social media attention.
Well then i need you to provide some sort of evidence. Why is having an intentionally inefficient government beneficial to anyone? What's your proof for saying our government was set up to be inefficient?
and how exactly are we going to 'invent' the money to finance the medical industry to give everyone free healthcare? and its not free, you'll get ass fucked for taxes before you can even have a choice. so basically it sounds like the ACA extortion bullshit without you having a choice in the matter. imagine my fucking shock, a democrat plan to steal more money from people without the people having any choice in the matter. this moron has no idea what she's talking about, its the same bernie bullshit. free stuff free stuff rich people are bad, yet these people deal with the rich and 'elite' scum bags that they pretend not to be in bed with. what a pile of horse shit. socialism is for people who are too retarded or too much of pussies to address reality as it exists. grow up
Sounds reasonable. Although if remove the beta male supplements. As far as I'm concerned, they're basically trannies
People can't work in healthcare or education?
Why not make it federal law to give your prices upfront?
It's called an investment user. More healthy people without debt means more economic activity. Not to mention more preventive care. The gains outweigh the loses.
They hate the rich but it won't hurt the rich. It will destroy the middle class. Free healthcare, free education, free housing. It will never stop till we're all living in efficiency apts. The rich will stay rich though everyone else will just lose all upward mobility.
She named (((them))) and now the left has stopped support.
in a country as big as the US you can't have medicare, you have to make people work for it. She is using the war card just like any textbook protocommunist student would use. She is worthless but she must be stopped.
The dims love war though
>Tax the rich to improve education and health for everyone else
>It won't hurt the rich
Wut? Can you explain how the unregulated free market will fix everything given that most people currently don't have the resources to participate in the market?
Because the Jews and their best goy decided, through globalism and Israeli ambition, that America's strongest economic tool will be it's ability to make and use state of the art weapons. Low IQ commie spics are the latest tool of these people.
have you considered that people on welfare arent economically innovative anyway. How many educated people are on the government doll for healthcare?
I never claimed I wanted an unlimited free market. I'm not a libertarian. I'm also not against some redistribution but even if you confiscated everything from the top 1% you wouldn't have enough money. The overwhelming majority of the burden will go to the middle class. The rich will play the shell game moving money around and shielding it like they always do.
The entire combined GDP of every nation in the mid east is an insignificant percentage of the world economy, about the size of a medium sized nation/state elsewhere or large city and their oil is getting less important with fracking and new technology.
fuck Burgerstan
>Two it created a weird space for middle income people where it made it more expensive somehow.
This. 10 years ago I was paying $60 per month for health insurance that included dental and vision, with a $100 deductible. Last year I was paying $380 per month for insurance that didn't have dental or vision and a $3000 (not a typo) deductible.
Obamacare fucked everyone making between 25-80k per year.
Because you pray for peace but prepare for war.
The damage is already done, fuck wit.
Checked and agreed on Obamacare. I still think the ACA was designed to do this. Ruin healthcare for the middle class to create wide spread support for single payer.
>why
And this is why their Zionist cesspit empire is collapsing at such a "unpresidented" speed and in such a humiliating fashion..
King Nigger Care didn’t change the NUMBER of people with healthcare. It just changed the demographics. 0bamafoam voters got free healthcare by the millions and millions of people who previously had employer provided healthcare lost it.
It's almost as if giving people free higher educating and training gives them the tools to not rely on welfare, escape poverty, and participate in the free market. Interesting...
It has been demonstrated eloquently years ago that you could take every dime from everybody that is wealthy enough to pay even ten cents in Federal Taxes and it wouldn’t cover our expenses for ONE YEAR at current levels of spending. All these “free gibs” morons are delusional.
I'm against the war in the middle east, but they're unironically less expensive than medicare for all
The reality is that giving people all that free shit just makes them lazy, worthless human beings, you fucking moron.
having "free" healthcare doesn't mean you have more healthy people
This.
Having free healthcare won't suddenly make us burgers stop eating burgers.
>This has always been true
wrong, the neoliberal welfare state is a 20th century invention
And the fucked up part is the poor had de facto free healthcare prior to this. Literally every hospital has a financial aid department for poor people that don't have insurance. When I was in college I got fucking pneumonia and was in the hospital for almost a week. Got sent a $12,000 bill and freaked out. I called them and explained, they sent me some forms and the bill was reduced to $125.
So the entire thing was nothing more than a massive wealth redistribution program disguised as universal healthcare.
the reason that happened is because of the 1965 immigration act, when tons of low income low skill central american immigrants were allowed to flood the job market, causing an explosion of competition on said market, lowering wages and crushing upward mobility
>in a country as big as the US you can't have medicare
why do people keep pretending that population size matters? no country can have free medicare for all, it will always suck, doesn't matter the size
Except you have no proof to back that up. In fact, stats say otherwise. Why the hell would people bother pursuing an educating if not to make more money? Why the hell would anyone seek healthcare treatment of not to get back to work and provide for their families? These things aren't "free shit". They're necessary for a functional society without rampant inequality.
When will she get destroyed? She's going to win in November, then be a career politician.
How is the burger flipping going for ya ?
studying the million of tumblr genders isn't going to get you a well paying job
getting your diabetes medication every week isn't going to cure your morbid obesity
just because people study or go to the hospital, doesn't make their lives better. people make retarded decisions and those are the reason they are in their position in life
>muh inequality
there is no reason to believe that inequality is in any way inherently bad
FFS, just say "give it to niggers."
>have you considered the economic loses due to millions of people being unable to pay for appropriate healthcare?
Have you considered that theoretical money isn’t automatically going to be yours, ya goddam kike