CHRISTIANITY AND RW POLITICS

Acts 17:26
And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation

Deuteronomy 7: 2-3
And when the LORD thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them:
Neither shalt thou make marriages with them; thy daughter thou shalt not give unto his son, nor his daughter shalt thou take unto thy son.

Nehemiah 13:3
Now it came to pass, when they had heard the law, that they separated from Israel all the mixed multitude.

>51 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye are passed over Jordan into the land of Canaan;

>52 Then ye shall drive out all the inhabitants of the land from before you, and destroy all their pictures, and destroy all their molten images, and quite pluck down all their high places:

>53 And ye shall dispossess the inhabitants of the land, and dwell therein: for I have given you the land to possess it.

>54 And ye shall divide the land by lot for an inheritance among your families: and to the more ye shall give the more inheritance, and to the fewer ye shall give the less inheritance: every man's inheritance shall be in the place where his lot falleth; according to the tribes of your fathers ye shall inherit.

>55 But if ye will not drive out the inhabitants of the land from before you; then it shall come to pass, that those which ye let remain of them shall be pricks in your eyes, and thorns in your sides, and shall vex you in the land wherein ye dwell.

>56 Moreover it shall come to pass, that I shall do unto you, as I thought to do unto them.

This text clearly shows that living among other people is not endorsed. Let it be clear that this verse applies to literal Israel, we do not have the new testament formation of Jews and Greeks yet (both these parties were united through the faith of Christ Jesus). The other people, Canaanites, were to be driven from the land to prevent future problems (they did not drive them all out). God clearly says that separation from other people/religion is necessary. Note that the Israelite's (sons of Abraham, of Babylonia) also had Egyptians among them but they only caused problems when not fully converted in the desert.

Deut 7
>1 When the Lord thy God shall bring thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and hath cast out many nations before thee, the Hittites, and the Girgashites, and the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites, seven nations greater and mightier than thou;

>2 And when the Lord thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them:

>3 Neither shalt thou make marriages with them; thy daughter thou shalt not give unto his son, nor his daughter shalt thou take unto thy son.

>4 For they will turn away thy son from following me, that they may serve other gods: so will the anger of the Lord be kindled against you, and destroy thee suddenly.

>5 But thus shall ye deal with them; ye shall destroy their altars, and break down their images, and cut down their groves, and burn their graven images with fire.

>6 For thou art an holy people unto the Lord thy God: the Lord thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.

Dont get these verses out of context, Israel was sent to destroy these nations, they were to leave some nations unharmed, such as Edom, Media and the nations of the sons of Lot.

anti-illegal immigration, no such thing. But I do find some verses about strangers

>33 And if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not vex him.

>34 But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God.

A stranger stays a stranger. We aught not to treat strangers wrongly. But treat them as one born among you. No special privileges are to be given to them, but if they break a law, they will be punished by the law that we all live under. From this verse I read that immigrants are allowed, but they are different from the Israelite people.

>17 And Solomon numbered all the strangers that were in the land of Israel, after the numbering wherewith David his father had numbered them; and they were found an hundred and fifty thousand and three thousand and six hundred.

>18 And he set threescore and ten thousand of them to be bearers of burdens, and fourscore thousand to be hewers in the mountain, and three thousand and six hundred overseers to set the people a work.

Immigrants used for hard labor.

>1 My son, attend unto my wisdom, and bow thine ear to my understanding:

>3 For the lips of a strange woman drop as an honeycomb, and her mouth is smoother than oil:

>8 Remove thy way far from her, and come not nigh the door of her house:

>9 Lest thou give thine honour unto others, and thy years unto the cruel:

>10 Lest strangers be filled with thy wealth; and thy labours be in the house of a stranger;

Be careful for female 'immigrants', we have a tendency to follow them instead of a woman of our country. The honour, that you have, that is: in bloodline, tradition and customs, are not to be given to another people through inheritance.

It is hard for me not to read this verse in a figurative sense. A woman represents a church in the figurative sense. Which changes the whole meaning of the verse.

Jesus was no nationalist in the current fascist sense, but more importantly he was not a statist, or an advocate for government welfare. Charity should be given to the virtuous who received bad luck, not the unvirtuous fools who are lucky that they live in a nanny state. (pearls before swines) This situation in the west is also one of the prime reasons for its pending fall, through migration and declining birth rates.

>1 Remember, O Lord, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach.

>2 Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens.

>3 We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers are as widows.

>4 We have drunken our water for money; our wood is sold unto us.

>5 Our necks are under persecution: we labour, and have no rest.

>6 We have given the hand to the Egyptians, and to the Assyrians, to be satisfied with bread.

>7 Our fathers have sinned, and are not; and we have borne their iniquities.

My oh my, these verses apply to our society perfectly.

The short answer is no. If you want to know why you will need to read the new testament and use exegesis when interpreting what it says. Google exegesis.

Decide for yourself, because only Paul advocates submission to earthly authority. No such thing in the gospels, Jesus tells us to distance ourselves from the monetary system for instance. (Mark 12:17)

Sorry that probably wasn't very clear, but, by short answer being "no" I meant that Christianity is not compatible with being against immigration or being pro ethno nationalist, and the main reason is because Christianity is a universal religion that sees all peoples as equal essentially from a theological point of view.

Christianity is not and has never been what made us great as a people. What made us great as a people is our genes. And our genes predate Christianity.

>Does christian teachings contradict or can be combined with:
>- anti-illegal immigration
>- ethno-cultural nationalism
no, christianity is international.
you could make an argument that being an orthocuck christian you belong to the church of russia.
after the fall of fagstantinople there never was a center of orthocuck power.
each country has its own church.
but this is just politics. the teaching of cuckstianity are against what you want.
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You are not going to get unbiased answers about this subject from Christians and even if they believe that the bible is pro xyz it is because of their hermeneutics/exegesis or their lack of a good hermeneutic/exegetical method to interpret Scripture.

There is only way one to correctly interpret something like the bible and you have to keep in mind people have an agenda.

Reading the bible properly is a lot more difficult than it may appear at first. The new testament was written approximately 2,000 years ago and the old testament is even older.

You also have to remember it was written in more than one different language and has also been translated by people with agendas, so you must have faith the translators are doing a good job. In order to remove faith from the equation you will have to learn koine greek and ancient hebrew.

Now on top of this you must try and understand the culture/time period/audience etc... of these writings and that is a lot more difficult than it sounds if you want to be truly intellectually honest.

To really understand the bible you need to do a lot of studying about extrabiblical things, like the customs of the Jews at the time for example otherwise some parables are impossible to interpret correctly.

One way some Christians try to get around having to do any of this is to claim the Holy Spirit is guiding their interpretation of the text, but, really most of the time people are just reading into the bible what they want to read into it, with little to no regard to the original intent or context of what the bible objectively is.

that movement is so stupid.
they were against jews while worshipping a jew on a stick.
the army squashed them and they were outed as communists.

Look at Christian lands for the last 2000 years, there is no contradiction

I think this text sums it up quite well:

Christ recognized no distinction of nationality or rank or creed. The scribes and Pharisees desired to make a local and a national benefit of all the gifts of heaven and to exclude the rest of God’s family in the world. But Christ came to break down every wall of partition. He came to show that His gift of mercy and love is as unconfined as the air, the light, or the showers of rain that refresh the earth. {CCh 288.5}

The life of Christ established a religion in which there is no caste, a religion by which Jew and Gentile, free and bond, are linked in a common brotherhood, equal before God. No question of policy influenced His movements. He made no difference between neighbors and strangers, friends and enemies. That which appealed to His heart was a soul thirsting for the waters of life. {CCh 289.1}

As the children of God are one in Christ, how does Jesus look upon caste, upon society distinctions, upon the division of man from his fellow-man, because of color, race, position, wealth, birth, or attainments? The secret of unity is found in the equality of believers in Christ.535 {CCh 289.3}

A christian view on anti-illegal immigration? You are a stranger on this planet, the world is the Lord's, and you sinning on it will result in only one end: Death. When God reclaims this world as his own, there will be no borders. The borders were formed in ages past to protect the history of his influence. The closer you get to creation, you will see that all of the human laws are close to the law of God. The secular left may be proclaiming a border-less world, but they do it though wickedness without God. We, the right, see the need of borders, for there is evil in this world and don't want evil people travel abroad freely. This is why we propagate THE NEED OF BORDERS. In Christ, that is: IN RIGHTEOUSNESS there is no need for borders. For a righteous man can walk about freely in the whole world. But the wicked cannot.

Cognitive dissonance.

Also much of Europe became Christian in the last 1,000 years give or take a few centuries. Not 2,000.

lel, nobody could think of such insanity as western democratic free world indulges in presently

hate the painting, veins visible and sharp yet for some reason delts are disfigured glob, underdeveloped forearms - would not hold the hammer he swung his traps into such size with
and this test beast is supposed to be deeply engulfed in profound thinking, something like that never happened
just kys commie

And what is the Christian view of marriage between 2 people from different nations? What nation has not fallen after an influx of masses of immigrants? Have you ever seen people marry who had a different religion? Where the one was a catholic and the other a protestant? There is nearly no peace in that house. For the one will see the need of a cross in the house, while the other believes that Christ would never want to see a cross anymore.

If we were united in Christ, we would not have the problems of a separated house. We would have complete harmony. But if we are not in Christ, then what? Do we have a common goal? If my culture is different from yours, how can we walk together? It is either by giving up our culture and accept the other. This is what we see in Britain. Where two cultures exist, and they war against each other and both sides see the problem of living together.

Of Ishmael, father of the Mohammedans it is said:

12 And he [Ishmael] will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.

I love how hard you guys have to rationalize worshipping a hippie communist Jewish Palestinian.

If Jesus was a communist, then why did he propagate the law of Moses, which allows for personal possessions?

Christianity is pretty much against many things the right wing believes.

>capitalism and wealth accumulation
>judging other people's decisions and mistakes (slut shaming for example)
>Jesus himself was a socialist and the right wing is against it
>homophobia

you name it
also, christianity is againt closed borders, remember that the bible literally says: love your neighbors

Careful. I think you know Jesus came to complete and end the Mosaic covenant, not propigate it.

>- anti-illegal immigration
Yes, we're supposed to follow the law so an illegal alien should be subject to punishment under the law.
>- ethno-cultural nationalism
Too complicated to answer really. I'd say it's fine as long as you don't advocate genocide or violence against other peoples.

>capitalism and wealth accumulation
Greed is a sin, not having money.
>judging other people's decisions and mistakes (slut shaming for example)
>Jesus himself was a socialist
Charity=/=socialism
>homophobia
Christianity is explicitly anti-gay.

Matthew 5:17, 18
For verily I say unto you, Till HEAVEN and EARTH pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill.

For as far as I remember, the heaven and earth is still here.
Jesus fulfilled the prophecies concerning him that were spoken of by the prophets of old.
And the law that he ended, was not the moral law, nor the law of health, nor the civil laws, nor the priestly laws (which are all endorsed by Paul), but the ceremonial law, which was fulfilled by Jesus Christ according to Paul.

what retarded question is this
ofcourse you can, satanism is literally funded on globalism and degeneracy

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I think we agree here.

Fulfill in the sense of complete it.

“The Law has become our tutor leading to Christ.”—GALATIANS 3:24

Christians arent requied to get cricumcised or follow other legal obligations of the Mosaic law. Jesus didnt contradict the mosaic law (its principles still stand) but indroduced something more conplete and perfect.

Paul was considerate to those Jews he was teaching.

To those under law I became as under law . . . that I might gain those under law.” (1 Corinthians 9:20-23

Many modern right-wingers (especially in Russia) are cultural Christians who may not even believe in God (no way of knowing) rather than true Christians so it doesn't even matter.

Those who walk in Christ sin not, therefor if we sin, we are under the law, and are condemned.
This is called righteousness by faith. If we walk in the same faith wherein Christ Jesus walked, we will be free from sin. This I know, and still I don't do it.

This message is welcomed by a few, but hated by many.

1 John 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

Hmmm. All men sin and fall short. Those who accept the law of Christ recieve mercy, however those who know what is right but do not do it, commit sin (we all sin).

James 4.7 If anyone, then, knows the good they ought to do and doesn't do it, it is sin for them

The mosaic law was for the nation of Israel only (and those aliens that sheltered under it), not the nations of the world. It ceased with Jesus death.

Matt21.43 This is why I say to you, the Kingdom of God will be taken from you and be given to a nation producing its fruits.

Well, all western cultures were ethno-cultural nationalist and anti-immigration + Christian. So, yes.

There is no difference from the law of Moses (and the testimony of the prophets) and the New testament. They both proclaim righteousness. Ezekiel 18 describes well how God judges man, and it is not different from how Jesus will judge men.

26 When a righteous man turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and dieth in them; for his iniquity that he hath done shall he die.

27 Again, when the wicked man turneth away from his wickedness that he hath committed, and doeth that which is lawful and right, he shall save his soul alive.

I hear your words about the law in a lot of churches. I do not read this when reading Paul's letters.

Romans 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

The law does not safe us, but it shows us the errors in life.

>- anti-illegal immigration
>- ethno-cultural nationalism

Imposible, any christian can live elsewhere, and should be treated as equal, did you not see pope's speech?

lmao what a cucks...

The Mosaic law and Law of Christ dovetail perfectly, but obviously have differences.

I would never be critical of the Mosaic law - it is from God and was perfect. Only that it was designed to lead the nation to Jesus. When Jesus arrived he revealed a more perfect law.

1 cor 9.21 To those without law I became as without law, although I am not without law toward God but under law toward Christ,+ in order to gain those without law.

1pe 2.21 In fact, to this course you were called, because even Christ suffered for you,+ leaving a model for you to follow his steps closely.+

This was prophesied. Jer 31.31 “I will put my law within them, and in their heart I shall write it.”—Jeremiah 31:31-34.

Christianity replaces European culture and ways of seeing the world with semitic ones. Christianity also teaches you to accept and help niggers and call them your brothers.

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This. Christianity was originally the religion of the downtrodden, the homeless, the whore, the scamp, the aescetic. Is it any wonder why Europe fell from Grace until the post-Englightenment period? I can resepct Christianity and I see it's followers as honorable, but don't expect everyone to want to follow it. A lot of Christians feel compelled to convert anyone they come across, a rather imperialistic mannerism.

sorry dude but the most successful European Empire after the hellenistic city states was the Christian Roman empire built on christian laws, you fags are probably nordics and buttmad you didn't get the ripes of christianity
Christianity enforces defending your own and yourself and enforces a strong state, you are just projecting

So that would mean Christians would still need to eat kosher ?

>And the law that he ended, was not the moral law, nor the law of health, nor the civil laws

Yet Jesus keeps someone from being stoned

>The catechism upholds moral obligation to take in an entirely subjective amount of immigrants, but holds national identity sacred and demands respect and adhesion to it from those entering the country
>God made the nations
Seems pretty clear cut I don't know how you could argue natural inclinations that aren't sinful are wrong.

I am not mad and I can respect the history of Christianity in Europe/America, but I will not continue it. Of course the Byzantine did well, they were the wealthy half of the empire that wasn't overrun by niggers, nothing to do with Christianity.

And that is why I believe the Mosaic law still stands. We know the law, partially as it may. But when reading scripture, we might know more of the law, and understand as it should be. It is there for our instruction so that we may grow spiritually and physically.

The differences usually have a plain explanation.
The greatest argument against it is the eating of unclean animals and the sheet let down from heaven in Acts 10 and 11.
In Leviticus God forbids eating unclean animals and in Acts it shows (in a vision) that Peter is allowed to eat unclean animals.
Many interpret this as that eating unclean animals is now allowed.
But Peter interpreted the vision in another way:

10:28 And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.

Later Peter got in an argument with the other disciples, because he went into the house where a Greek lived.
Then Peter explained the vision and the things that followed that vision. And they accepted Peters explanation of the vision:

11:18 When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.

Im sorry, I'm not getting circumcised. My early brothers sorted that decision out quite early. But yes the Mosaic law is vital to study.

Sounds like Judaism that everyone is allowed to participate in.

Exactly. The harlot woman gets brought before Jesus.
The Jews accuse her that she broke the law, she lay with a man in adultery.
They threw her before him to make a choice between these two things:

If Jesus says she should be stoned, he would place himself above Roman law and he could be brought before the Romans as a dissenter and be tried.
If he let her free, he would be against the Mosaic law.

He wrote down the law concerning her sin. That not only she, but also the man that lay with her should be stoned.
In this, they all sinned. And hurried off.

Me neither, Circumcision is a ceremonial law. If circumcision was required in this day and age, we would have been born that way. Abraham was declared righteous in uncircumcision. You are fine.

Nah, Judaism is different from Christianity nowadays. They are more in harmony with the Muslims (that's what Muslims tell me anyway).

>The differences usually have a plain explanation.
>The greatest argument against it is the eating of unclean animals and the sheet let down from heaven in Acts 10 and 11.

Yeah i got all that i have gone back and forth on this issue , but see no way out . The peter vision is no argument for not eating kosher i agree ,

Render unto Caesar. Mark 12:17. If Caesar, i.e. The head of state demands something, it superceedes god so long as it stays out of the church.

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The best thing to do is letting people decide for themselves what to eat and what not. Forced religion does not create real religion.

>Look how Christian I am Jesus
>I'm willing to go against your teachings and kill infidels and forcibly convert people
Why are all you semitic desert worshippers so hippocritical? It must be a semitic thing.

Watch a video of kosher slaughter and ask if that's what God really wants. Don't eat kosher you fucking kike, it requires the animal to be fully conscious as it's blood slowly drains from it, dying in absolute horror instead of being incapacitated before slaughter.

Yeah i dont mean the kosher the Jews have today i meant the eating of unclean animals

>Does christian teachings contradict or can be combined with:
Yes, the answer is yes. When you look through the holy bible, the old AND the new testament. They you can take pretty much any stance you want about just about anything.
Was there anything specific you wanted to get sanctioned by the bible?

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Why would anyone follow a religion that can be made to support any stance? What kind of divine truth is that?

>I'm willing to go against your teachings and kill infidels and forcibly convert people
we were the first ones to sign the religious freedom act in 300 ac so wtf you on

>WE
You realize prior to the legalization and adoption of Christianity (which was by pagans) there was religious freedom? The Romans saw their own God's manifested in the religion of others and would adopt new personalities when they didn't fit. They only had a problem when religions began subverting the authority of the state.
If you weren't an Orthodox Greek I would argue that the dark ages shows how tolerant Christians truly were, an entire age of history forgotten because you want to forget about the massacres, forced conversations, and destruction of pagan holy sites. You can keep your desert cult, just keep it to yourself. Saying "heads will roll" while acting like you're speaking in line with the teachings of God/Jesus is retarded LARPing and part of the problem.

if it is any consolation that is Ioanis Palaiologos the last emperor of the byzantine and fighter of the otthomans

OP

>and He made from one man every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having determined their appointed times and the boundaries of their habitation

The bible is often pro-nationalist, and when talking about Christian love for your "brother" and people, it's not the modern day, hippy love, which is just the pursuit of comfort and cummies. Christian love is often authoritarian and requires leading your people to the right path and protecting them from sin. It's anti-degeneracy. I see no contradictions between my faith and my white nationalist ideology.

Also, the new testament is the most anti-semitic book i've ever read, way more than Mein Kampf. I felt so at home reading it for the first time, it's the only text i've read that rants about them as much as I do. It depicts their character and faults so well.

People don't understand the difference between Motherly and Fatherly love anymore. This is because of the breakdown of the family in modern society.

It means something that God is a Father, it's said many many times that he specifically is The Father. This is because Fathers have a different kind of love than Mothers. Motherly love is more nurturing, whereas Fatherly love is more correcting and judging.

"hippie jesus" comes from the incorrect idea that God loves us like a Mother loves her child.

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>There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female

Now, consider the entire passage from which this is ((((mistakenly)))) separated from, when (((they))) misquote it. Galatians 3, 23-28 is as follows:

>Before the coming of this faith, we were held in custody under the law, locked up until the faith that was to come would be revealed. So the law was our guardian until Christ came that we might be justified by faith. Now that this faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian. So in Christ Jesus you are all children of God through faith, for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ.

There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

As you can see, this is speaking to a non-physical, spiritual identity, stating that we can all receive the Love and Salvation of our Lord Jesus Christ.

To argue that - as they would - that the meaning of this passage is as they acclaim - is to argue against the existence of women here in the physical, earthly realm.

Moving forward with further information the biblical separations between the races, I would add the point that God created man with the power and ability and desire to
create nations, and identities for the societies and races which he hath formed, and even stated to us that nations - and by extension nationality and national identity will exist even up until the end of the world, where in the book of Revelation it is said that:

After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands (Revelation 7:9 luv)

Therefore the concept of a nation - and a nation as WE know it - with its own language, identity, etc will be - and is MEANT TO BE - with us until the end of time.

But you ask yourself - why are there the different races on this earth, and how could one know with certainty that they are not intended to be intermixed from a biblical standpoint, leaving aside purely pragmatic evidence to include the statistics of crime and social problems which inevitably rise from this action taking place?

To this valid question I would answer with this abbreviated passage of Genesis 11:1-9 kjv which gives us the TL;DR of the tower of Babel:
Basically, there were a people who were one - one language - one society located in a prosperous area, and their arrogance consumed them.

For they said amongst themselves “We will make this tower - so that we can now climb into heaven - and because we will then be in heaven, we will simply be our own Gods from now on!” ...sounds familiar, right?

Well, the actual God did not look upon this kindly, and to end the foolishness of their tower and their plan (which wouldn’t have worked anyway, of course - for as the Greek fathers of the Orthodox Church insisted “A God who is comprehensible is not God.

A God, that is to say, whom we claim to understand exhaustively through the resources of our own reasoning brain turns out to be no more than an idol, fashioned in our own image.

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not if those immigrants are christian themselves, like the gorillion niggers in africa
enjoy your negrified but BASED christian Europe

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africans can be christians in africa

or in Europe, christendom is christendom, you won't refuse your brothers in christ shelter from hunger and disease now, would you?

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i will help them from a distance, so we have working societies , peaceful and law abiding. It is pretty eye opening when you talk to actual trad christians and nobody believes in mass migration shit, only lefties and varg larpers believe that this is the case

>When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. The stranger who resides with you shall be to you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself.
>There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
>And he said to them, "You yourselves know how unlawful it is for a man who is a Jew to associate with a foreigner or to visit him; and yet God has shown me that I should not call any man unholy or unclean.
And in western Europe or at least America the Christian churches are unironically involved with the migrant NGOs.

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Paul told you fags to follow the rules of the state as well as god, perfect slaves.

There is just one truth , God trolls you to do the wrong thing .

>>When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. The stranger who resides with you shall be to you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself.
>>There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
>>And he said to them, "You yourselves know how unlawful it is for a man who is a Jew to associate with a foreigner or to visit him; and yet God has shown me that I should not call any man unholy or unclean.
these are basic humanitarian ways to live your life, you shouldn't hate anyone, you should treat anyone with respect and fight those that do you harm and fight for a peaceful and cohesive nation. We shall help those who are hungry and poor by stopping needless wars and psyop revolutions, we shall help them by enabling them to build successful countries. This is the essence of the bible

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I've been down the rabbit hole of religion for a long time now OP, and what I have unfortunately and painfully come to the conclusion is that Christianity is dead and not a viable option going forward. As a people it is necessary to have a religion going forward, but what that is.... I don't know. Right now I'm going down the Sufist Islam path as it seems to be a surviving tradition compatible with European ideals but one thing is for sure. Don't give your time to people who divide and conquer based on religion because we are all European brothers in this fight. Good luck to you OP on whatever you settle with.

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>lets just twist it bro

christianity encourages globalism, those that are in pursuit of preservation of their own because of pride rather than God's mission which is: to spread the gospel to all tribes then dont call yourself a christian. you should be happy to marry your daughters off to other races, because they're a member of the christ-family as you are.

if you're going to have a christian dominating ethno-state, there will be those that will actually read the message and delude themselves to such they'll be seen as a rebellious threat to your ethno-state; the core message of christianity is unity and love and dedication of christ, ethno-states seek pride in their own, completely anti-christian.

its the same with islam, some muslims dont want to be identified with the terrorist shit, but actually the terrorists are following islam all the way to the end and its political system. you'd also need practices which are forbidden in christianity to implement for it to be a healthy ethno-state, such as eugenics, you need the best men of your own kind.

also again, the amount of contradictions in the bible will be another drag. you'd need a sane rational approach - why is it that people on here suggest jew religions such as islam and christianity?

*if you're against this then dont call yourself a christian, because you're not, you just want to cherry pick and believe you're special than the message itself

Read the catholic catechism, it is very clear on the fact that christian countries should not accept immigration if it goes against the common good of the country.

>Islam
>European ideals
Unironically kill yourself if you think this is true, cuck. You know nothing.

seeing nations adopt islam only makes them dogs to the arabs, calling themselves arab names and culture also adopting the arabic language itself, that slushy language that sounds like someone sucking camel cock. its death to european culture and the fact richer muslim families will buy off many white daughters. accepting islam in europe is basically suicide if you love your own.

I don't know how educated you are on traditionalism in the early 20th century but most of the European traditionalist thinkers became Muslim, it's all too much to explain her eon Jow Forums but if you are interested read Rene Guenon as a starter.

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No, fuck off, I reject all semitic religions, especially Islam and Judaism. No real traditionalist European would be Islamic because Islam has and never will be part of Europe. These men might have become Muslim but that has absolutely no bearing on how I see it. If they see themselves as traditionalist, they certainly don't see themselves as European traditionalist.

Well if you go with that mindset have fun stabilizing a family, let alone a society without a common myth in this day and age. The eastern way of thinking is ingrained in the way we think whether you like it or not. Truth is not based upon where the idea comes from. Is truth not universal?

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>Hurr Durr I can only follow other people
Make your own position instead of just following other people, cuck. How do you think these religions started?

We have seen what happens in the west when man gets to "interpret" whatever he wants. Protestant countries are rotten to the core. There needs to be a central idea but not a central organization like the pedophile Catholic church. Also people need positive reinforcement in society. Do you think that will go over well when your children are the among the only people in the world you believe in your religion?

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What I'm proposing is a shift in mindset away from your desert cults into a more organic, naturalistic religion that is manifest in nature. It was that way once and it can be again.

Religion and spirituality should be about the actual nature lf reality. Pagans worship the natural world. My own personal brand of it is Pantheistic in nature, in that every mundane and profound, good and bad, part of reality is all apart of the greater whole of God. God being the universe and reality we reside within and the impetus for anything to exist in the first place. Reality is the manifestation of God in every possible form for God to fully encompass the experience and event of being. That being said, I would say my paganism is mostly a cultural tool to bind people together with roots in folkishness, family, honor, nature, and tradition. It's personifying the various characteristics of God that have manifested themselves in reality; giving personalities to the many faces of God.

Even Hitler himself realized what a difficult task that would be so he inevitability had to back Christianity instead of the Pagans within Germany. I'm not particularly saying you're wrong but what I am saying is that realistically what you're proposing is next to impossible, if it couldn't be done in a woken country like Germany then you think it can be done in the zog west?

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Christianity is about jesus and lovinf all humanity as your neighbor with no hate.

Pagan romanticism is something that every age encounters. Hitler didn't back Christianity over pagans, he just didn't care either way so long as you were religiously spiritual and did not subvert the state. I'm sure he would have preferred the pagan revival based on his critiques of Christianity. And it didn't take root because they got BTFO. I am going to do what seems right to me, I don't care what the sheep and cucks on the mainstream do, they are shaped by the front anyway.

By the fringe *

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