Is Fascism the objectively superior political system?

>Is being a cuck to the state the best political system
No.

"Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for lunch" - Benjamin Franklin

Italian style fascism is great but the Nazis kinda made it gay

Fascism is fucking retarded. Objectively it's just as bad as communism and liberalism.

No, NatSoc is.

IIRC that's not a real quote, and even if it is, what democracy is being compared to, in that situation, is a republic.

Just a variant of fascism. That's like a leftist saying Marxism isn't good but Maoism is.

Its the thinking mans ideology.

>Tough guy on internet talk.

Why did the Italians get rekt then?

An ideology whose very foundation rests on militarism, race war, the end of Western enlightment ideals? No.

congrats for having internets in your cuckshed, sven, now go kys.

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Living next to a fascist country is like living next to a rabid dog. Either you die or the dog does.

The allies of WW2 pledged to wage an uncompromising, ruthless total war against the Fascists for a lesson. Any peace that would have left fascism intact would lead to another war 20-30 years down the road.

It's why circlejerk Jow Forumss idea of a far-right and nationalistic Europe is horrifying. The end result would be another continental disaster.

>American black shirt party
Why them instead of one of the 500 other Fascist/NatSoc organizations filled to the brim with outcasts and idealists?

Woah.... what a badass....

How did the war go, kraut? 40 million Europeans dead, the entire continent ruined, and the dissolution of the colonial empires. All because you Germans had the wonderful idea of extending the Reich to the Urals.

Germany should be grateful it even exists today.

No. Fascism is a temporary state, that should lay the foundations for a stable government afterwards. It's not a good permanent system. It should be what it's good at. Reactionary, get shit done, and then move on to a transitional government afterwards.

Wanna take our niggers, cuck? Like for real we got them and I heard you love these things. We don't want them. Take them and ruin yourself permanently. Less curse for us.

They're the largest and being anti racism and anti white nationalism is better for public opinion.

He does have a point.

Found the kike

No

Capitalism created the greatest country on earth

What? Fascist countries still existed after WW2, at least one of em. Portugal.

KYS Fucking kike

>largest
I find that hard to believe. I don't suppose you have the numbers on hand or at least other groups to compare yourself to.
>anti racism and anti white nationalism
What
>public opinion
An explicitly fascist organization is never, ever going to have a good reputation with the public.

To whom?
Fascism for the community
True Stalin communism for state output
Ancap for the individual (do not work if there are kikes or niggers)

maybe we would have won if your joke of a country had joined???

just imagine how much less fucked the world would be now...

so you joined antifa???

The largest part I got from Wikipedia so I'm sure there's room for error and if they're not the largest in the states I apologise, as for the second point, they subscribe to a more British and Italian style fascism, where ones race doesn't matter as long as they hold the same convictions. And I do believe the public could have a favorable view of a fascist group, look at casapound, they run a food bank and have some apartment thing set up.

No I haven't fought any trash cans yet, I heard that's a rite of passage

According to who? Fascism isn't some "transitional" ideology. It's an ideology set out to completely revamp society to engage in an permanent racial struggle. In a world with limited resources, the only way for your race to survive is to genocide/enslave everyone else. For if you don't, they will do the same to you. Thus every individual exist only to serve the state, for it is the state that ensure the continued survival of the race. There are only those who kill, and those who will be killed.

That is fascism summed up. It's not your run-of-the-mill right wing stuff. Fascism is darwinism and racialism taken to its very extreme. It's an ideology vile and rotten to its core, and there's nothing whatsoever redeeming about it.

Yes.
Pic related is 4u.

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This.

You practically described National Socialism, but not really any other form of Fascism.

No he doesn't

Feudalism is the best political system.

You fucking moron. We have some problems with sandniggers migrating to Europe (which we will put an end to soon) , but life here isn't as horrible as you make it out to be.

Nazi victory means half of Europe dies. Literally dies as you krauts go Generalplan Ost on the Slavic untermensch.

In general, this is a very textbook definition of Fascism. You really put no effort into this and i feel like you pulled it out your ass. There are forms of Fascism that encourage races working together, like Brazilian Integralism.

Are the slav(e)s truly worth saving tho?

>permanent racial struggle

What marxist horseshit are you eating? Every nation that doesn't bend it's swedish asshole over to be replaced by niggers et al., is "in a permenent racial struggle" to some extent. By the true nature of what is a nation, they are.
Things seem to Prove, there's some truth that very statement you're all butthurt about.

So everything is fascist, then. Everything but bowing over and cuckery is fascist then.
All nationalism is fascist.

That's a very shitty term for fascism. You could say Soviet communism was fascism then, because in effect it was all just really Russian imperialism. It's a crap determination for what constitutes fascism or not.

Replace "herrenvolk" with "Yamato race" or whatever looney term for master race. It's still the same. Japan engaged in genocide all across Asia in the same way Germany did in Europe. It's just that Japan lacked the necessary industrial capacity to really double-down on it.

Nazism is just your Nordic variant of fascism. They come in different colors, but they taste shit the same.

Japan was very imperial and militaristic, but not Fascist.

>We have some problems with sandniggers migrating to Europe (which we will put an end to soon)
and how will you achieve that? or are you going to let them all stay?

It is the textbook definition because that's what fascism is. It's not some jolly-good temperance movement like you make it out to be.

The Integralists were never close to power, but it's the same thing. Militarism, a unified Brazilian race, collectivism.

But it's not. There are plenty of Fascists who didn't care about race as much as you make it out to be. Mosley, Salazar. There were Yugoslavian Fascists too who still believed in a united Yugoslavia, and sharing a country with Croats, Bosnians, Slovenians, and the like. Like i said, you are pulling this out your ass.

Fascism is race war. Fascism is the very idea that the only way for racial survival is through war and genocide. Import food? Nah fuck, I'll occupy Russia/China instead and seize their harvest.

A nationalist feels pride for his nation, but sees no inherent need to go on an genocidal rampage against his neighbours.

>Fascism is race war
No it's not. I said it before, i will say again. You are pulling this out of your ass.

They are the very definition of it.

That's imperialism. We already have a term for that, too. So was every empire a fascist? Were all colonies, fascists? Soviet Union pretty much was what you described as well. That some fascism too?

What? Because they were racist and nationalist? Those are some factors in Fascism, but that doesn't really make it Fascist. Do you know what you are even talking about? Japan had some unique economic model during their Imperial era.

Italy has gotten its act together. Anti-immigration parties will gain a majority in the September elections here in Sweden.

It will take some time, but people are seriously fed up here in Europe. There will be an militarized outer European border, and there will be mass deportations of illegals.

I just don't see how fascism, the abolition of democracy and the rise of totalitarism would do us any good.

Fascism is a temporary solution to a problem that got unadressed for too long. Its reaction is brutal and violent, it brings light and energy, frightens opponants, but is needed to get back to a state of equilibrium of nature, just like when thunder strikes and puts the charge of particles back to a more harmonious level after unbalanced levels of ion particles.

>fascism is temproray
you dont know shit about fascism so stop trying to act smart by regurgitating pseudo bullshit

"I just don't see how fascism, the abolition of democracy and the rise of totalitarism would do us any good."
>Swedish
>Capitalism and corporate owned politicians are working out great.
>Definitely needs more niggers. Somalis and Pakistanis preferably. Cream of the crop. Ooh, la, la!

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go read the cycle of political systems from that old Greek guy...it's +2700 years old but you'll feel less stupid. It's very applicable today.

I can smell the baby penis on your breath from here

>insecure betas
>meme flag

Gross.

hey sven, its me again, adolf.

to sum it all up for you:

it is nature, the highest rule above all of them, kill or be killed, its the fucking natural order.
that is how it is supposed to be...

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Monarchism is

because they were Italians

Integralism is shit, to anyone that thinks it's good read The Fourth Humanity.

moseley was hilarious, it's as if nostalgia critic went full hitler

No. All socialism, and fascism is socialism, is garbage. Fascism is objectively shit. End of story.

the boomers have arrived lads
time to pack up the thread

In the last century, it certainly seems so. I assume you're counting National Socialism, too.

Of all modern political philosophies, yes
However, traditionalism is yet superior to fascism

there's no intrinsic or objective meaning, value, purpose, or point to anything, lol.

>objectively superior
>every fascist state since the 1800s has crashed and burned horribly and left the world in an objectively worse state than before it formed

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in contrast to communism???

and then everyone clapped

>insecure betas
>had Independence for 5 minutes then lost it
catalonia is spain always has been always will be

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obviously

More like because Churchill forced Britain into a war she had no stake in.

It's superior by definition.

you type like a gay

equality is a lie, snownigger.
natuaral law always rules in the end.

Is this even a question?

Aesthetically speaking yes, in practice no. Also out of curiousity are there any fascist parties out there regardless of nation?

Fascism is the best for fixing a nation in a tailspin, but minarchism is the best system to slowly shift to after the major problems have been cleansed.

What even is Fascism? Its hard to find a good explanation without a second degree inflection

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No

also spain

>mass deportations of illegals
I'll believe it when I see it, Sven.
They will push their claim for asylum, and your leaders will cave. They cannot legally deport asylum seekers.

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Can anyone explian to me Gentiles Actual Idealism? I know that a good portion of the fascist philosophy overlaps, but Im still shaky on it. And the way I see fascism is accepting of several things from both sides
Marxism:
>A nation devoted soley to upping the GDP is bad, as it will inevitably lead to nobody below the top 20% wanting to participate in it, and later a power struggle, and the death of the nation.
>Individuals are not the be-all end-all of society, a balance between them and a form of collective idenitity is necessary to keep away the crabs in a bucket mentality.
>Some level of unionization of workers
>A collective goal/mission is a great way to have individuals engaged and satisfied with society
>Atomization of the people, families, communities, etc, is bad.
Liberalism:
>Select individuals are best at select things the government should do their best to not hold their potential back, somewhat aristocratic.
>The workers are not the be-all end-all of a society, if they have a place where they can compete, they feel and perform better than in a non-competitive system.
>Competition is not bad, and the collective musnt be overpowing the individual.
Overall, it rejects the materialism of both , as well as using a collective as the best frame for people to adhere to, as well as distinguish themselves from others.I may be way wrong, but if theres a better definition, or an ideology more in line with what I described, let me know. Also Gentile specifically states its not race-based.

Ya... No
Lurk for 2 more years.

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>fascist for a lesson
Except neither natsoc nor fascist declared a war.

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No. Libertarianism is.

Mosleyism is.

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>half of europe dies
Then should've stopped the bongs from declaring war or the polacks from taking advantage of the system.